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2017/18 Toronto Raptors Season Thread !! Go Raptors Go !!!

A lot of changes ... Additions and Subractions How will Raptors Fair

  • Toronto Raptors with 43-39 Wins will finish somewhere between 6 and 8th

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Raptors Will Get 44-57 Wins .. Division Title and And a long Playoff Run

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • Toronto Raptors take step backwards and with less then 40 wins miss playoffs

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Toronto Team Blows up and is a Lottery Team Again

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .

wonkyknee

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Does not help Casey cause watching Boston blow out the Cavs. Every other team this playoffs has been able beat Cleveland but Toronto. Personally I don't think its Casey's fault. I see the kind of gritty hard nosed players, that reach another level, on both Indiana and more so Boston. Some of those guys I refer to from Boston aren't even that old. Jalen Brown and Terry Rozier are 21 and 24. And of course Jason Tatum at 20 is a phenom.

Boston even has veterans to back up the rookies like Morris and Monroe.

I guess they still have to play the series to really make a statement.
 

mrcheeks

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Does not help Casey cause watching Boston blow out the Cavs. Every other team this playoffs has been able beat Cleveland but Toronto. Personally I don't think its Casey's fault. I see the kind of gritty hard nosed players, that reach another level, on both Indiana and more so Boston. Some of those guys I refer to from Boston aren't even that old. Jalen Brown and Terry Rozier are 21 and 24. And of course Jason Tatum at 20 is a phenom.

Boston even has veterans to back up the rookies like Morris and Monroe.

I guess they still have to play the series to really make a statement.
And imagine after this year when Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward come back.
 

smuddan

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Ujiri has to be held accountable for the team's failure in the playoffs. For 5 years he has not been able to produce any star player in the caliber of Derosen or Lowry. His best accomplishment so far has to be the creation of a very good second unit this season, but without enough star power, you just can't win, especially if your two borderline stars are not playing well.

He's deflecting the blame by firing Casey, but next year this time if the team doesn't win at least a couple rounds in the playoffs, he'll probably be the next to go.
 

wonkyknee

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watching the Western Conference finals makes me think only a Celts team with a healthy KIrving can compete for the rings. Amazing how dominant Harden and Durant are now. If only OKC could have kept the big three?!!!! Amazing even GS is stacked with shooting and defene they still needs Durant to come out big and beat Houston.
 

Dawgger

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watching the Western Conference finals makes me think only a Celts team with a healthy KIrving can compete for the rings. Amazing how dominant Harden and Durant are now. If only OKC could have kept the big three?!!!! Amazing even GS is stacked with shooting and defene they still needs Durant to come out big and beat Houston.
Have seen parts of Boston's victory over Cleveland and golden State's win. James had a horrible game 7 TO, and 15 points in the loss. Golden State just has too many horses, they are awesome. Think the series to watch is GS and Houston, the east west match up may be a route.
Refereeing sucked last night, inconsistent calls. League needs to get it fixed!!!!!
 

raptorizedguy

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Ujiri has to be held accountable for the team's failure in the playoffs. For 5 years he has not been able to produce any star player in the caliber of Derosen or Lowry. His best accomplishment so far has to be the creation of a very good second unit this season, but without enough star power, you just can't win, especially if your two borderline stars are not playing well.

He's deflecting the blame by firing Casey, but next year this time if the team doesn't win at least a couple rounds in the playoffs, he'll probably be the next to go.
You are right .. JV Lowry and Derozan are the old GM ( and the coach ) accomplishments . Heck so is Casey .... His doing are Ibaka and Carol ( who they had to give away this year's pick to get rid of him ) .. He inherited a bad contract in Bargnani and now has Powell Ibaka and Lowry on his resume ..
 

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So far Masai is right by firing Casey. Stevens&Co. are up 2-0 in the East final against LBJ. LBJ scored over 40 pts last night and still lose. If Boston goes on and beat LB this series,Brad Stevens should be coach of the year. Not Casey. Raptors need to find a better defensive coach to replace Casey,imo.
Did the Raps limit the Cavs scored to lower than 100's in any games? I don't think so. In the 3rd round of the playoffs, Cavs scored 87 and 94 in two games on the road in Boston.
 

smuddan

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So far Masai is right by firing Casey. Stevens&Co. are up 2-0 in the East final against LBJ. LBJ scored over 40 pts last night and still lose. If Boston goes on and beat LB this series,Brad Stevens should be coach of the year. Not Casey. Raptors need to find a better defensive coach to replace Casey,imo.
Did the Raps limit the Cavs scored to lower than 100's in any games? I don't think so. In the 3rd round of the playoffs, Cavs scored 87 and 94 in two games on the road in Boston.
It's not a matter of right or wrong imo. You can debate to no end if another coach would have made significant difference in the outcome of the Cleveland series. Even if the Cavaliers are swept by the Celtics I don't think it proves anything.

It'll be a good decision if the Raptors do better with the new head coach, a bad one if they do worse than what Casey has accomplished.
 

raptorizedguy

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It's not a matter of right or wrong imo. You can debate to no end if another coach would have made significant difference in the outcome of the Cleveland series. Even if the Cavaliers are swept by the Celtics I don't think it proves anything.

It'll be a good decision if the Raptors do better with the new head coach, a bad one if they do worse than what Casey has accomplished.
It will be a hard act to follow . Usually new coaches get hired on non playoff teams .. Only way to go is up .. OKC fired a coach who got his team to the final and have never got there since . Your core is your core ..
 

Dawgger

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It will be a hard act to follow . Usually new coaches get hired on non playoff teams .. Only way to go is up .. OKC fired a coach who got his team to the final and have never got there since . Your core is your core ..
this won't make it any better for Masai or the new hire:

Casey along with Snyder and Stevens are coach of the year finalists.

Congratulations to Fred Vanvleet finalist for 6th man award.
 

wonkyknee

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Houston stepped it up a notch(or three notches) as a team last night. Golden State started the game with a few bad turnovers and Curry had a hard time getting hot from 3. Houston on the other hand got hot with Gordon and Tucker from behind the 3(and in the paint) to help balance the scoring with Paul and Harden. All the commentators were somewhat shocked how different Houston was from Monday night. I think the stats from Monday night showed Harden with 550 dribbles and 549 total for Curry/Thompson/Durant combined. Last night Houston share the ball, looking like Golden State or the San Antonio from the past.
Just don't know if Houston will keep up the team play at the Oracle Center. Golden State has home court advantage at this point.
Oh and Durant did his thing last night. Pretty much unstoppable. Even when he's played really really tight on defense he can get his shot off.
 

frankcastle

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I wouldnt write off lebron just yet.

So we missed our chance at mike budenhizer..... who os masai looking for next?
 

Dawgger

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Nothing against Nurse, but: I would think Casey was fired because the program he put together wasn't successful, Nurse was part of that program. Don't see where there will be a lot of change or improvement if Nurse is elevated to head coach.
Masai apparently wants or wanted someone that has worked with Pops, and it doesn't look like that will happen. Maybe he fired Casey before he had a plan in a place to replace him. If the Raps are to ever win it all they need to make some player changes more so than they needed to change head coaches
 

wonkyknee

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I'm not sure what it is about Boston, but I find myself cheering for Cleveland these days. never happened before.
 

wonkyknee

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Now that the East has come to an end. Lebron is once again still standing. Coach Brad Stevens is most probably to blame for that game 7 collapse. They could have easily kept pounding the ball inside to Horford or Tatum. The offense disappeared. Boston is left with 2nd place. As we all know that's as good as last place. Toronto loses their coach but gets a regular season Eastern conference banner to hang up at the ACC. Boston left with nothing but the legacy of being beaten by the Lebron led team with the worst supporting cast in his history.

Boston most likely leads the East next year, and Toronto most likely looking to rebuild, unless miraculously one or two of our rookies return after the season as hungry beasts. Siakam? Peoltl? Wright?

they most likely move ahead with DeRozan, Lowry, OG and Valunciunas for one last failed attempt at an ECC.

by the way, Cleveland most likely loses in 4-5 games in the finals.
 

frankcastle

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Nick nurse is the wrong choice if culture change is the focus.

Mind you he is the architect for the nee offence this year.

I think casey and nurse could have done good work together.

Not being a head coach is a big x factor for a team wanting to make anothet playoff run.

I hate lebron but after the way he carried his team i would love to see him beat the only team i hate more the warriors.

Ifcthe rockets win i would love for them to win.

I think the raptors should start saving uo draft picks maybe trade current picks for higher future picks. There are a lot of big contracts that will be hard to unload so drafting well and getting a free agent or two could help the rebuild
 

wonkyknee

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Last year Golden State beat Cleveland 4-1 in the finals. I think Cleveland would be lucky this year to get one game out of Golden State. Without Chris Paul I can't see Houston beating Golden State tonight. He's not coming back early with a hamstring injury. I guess Houston has a chance being at home but I think we'll be seeing Golden State sweeping Lebron in the finals.
 

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We need to start recruiting LBJ to Toronto!!! Then it does not matter who the head coach is next year. LBJ is the best basketball player I have ever seen and quite possibly the best all around athlete ever in all of sports
 
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