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Butler1000

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He's not "independent". He's just not doing the job. He's more interested in photo ops, preening, and collecting followers on Twitter, than in doing the job.

He sat there doing nothing through the healthcare debate. Nothing. Posed for a few photos, wrote some inflammatory tweets. He's a celebrity President who likes the status and trappings of the office but can't or won't do the work.

Never sent a proposal of his own, never advocated for an idea on TV. He couldn't even be bothered to hire somebody to do that, like Reagan did with trickle down.
Sure he is. Even your precious media have been heard to say it. He sure as heck isn't a hardcore GoP after reaching across the aisle to the Dems. And getting a small win there.

Still three years. I'll wait before I. Judge.
 

toguy5252

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An idiot who despite all odds and with every political establishment working against him won the presidency. How idiotic are the political institutions that they couldn't stop it?

And by institutions I mean both Parties and the Media.

As I've oft stated. Trump isn't the disease. He the bad self medication the patient takes when the two doctors in charge are more interested in the billing of the patient rather than the treatment.
I totally agree. Against all odds (and common sense)and with the help of Comey, the Russians an electorate which was more interested in his television persona than anything he ever said he won. I give him full credit for exploiting and capitalizing on the fractured parties and the ignorance of the American electorate. But that does not change the fact that he is am ill-informed idiot who is completly lacking in the temperament or any of the skill required of a POTUS.
 

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Sure he is. Even your precious media have been heard to say it. He sure as heck isn't a hardcore GoP after reaching across the aisle to the Dems. And getting a small win there.

Still three years. I'll wait before I. Judge.
Again, to be anything, independent, republican, democrat, fascist, communist, whig, tory, liberal, conservative... ANYTHING... he would actually have to want to do the job.
 

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In the same speech Bannon said that firing Comey was the biggest mistake in modern political history.

Do you agree?
No I don't. There have been far bigger mistakes than that. Besides that, the information that has been released suggests Trump was correct to fire Comey.
 

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Sorry but I have no love at all for Steve Bannon.

As for the President and legislation -- you just don't demand something and then do absolutely nothing to assist in the process, any other administration would have had their Department of Health and Human Services prepare draft legislation. ~~~~~ Then again this is the first administration nine months into the administration which has not fully appointed all presidential appointees.

Further, after eight years of stating how much better a job you can do and then delivering this sort of partisan hard-line proposal rather than something which truly is a better plan for reducing costs and best serving the people of the United States is bitterly disappointing!
 

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He's not "independent". He's just not doing the job. He's more interested in photo ops, preening, and collecting followers on Twitter, than in doing the job.

He sat there doing nothing through the healthcare debate. Nothing. Posed for a few photos, wrote some inflammatory tweets. He's a celebrity President who likes the status and trappings of the office but can't or won't do the work.

Never sent a proposal of his own, never advocated for an idea on TV. He couldn't even be bothered to hire somebody to do that, like Reagan did with trickle down.
He's leading the charge against North Korea. Something no other did, hence the situation we're in now.
 

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He's leading the charge against North Korea. Something no other did, hence the situation we're in now.
LOL. Do you call idiotic bluster which no one in the world least of all North Korea takes seriously leading the charge. The only charge he is leading is the charge to make the US the laughing stock of the world.

Remamber ‘It Won’t Happen,’ Donald Trump Says of North Korean Missile Test" From this past January. Yea that was certainly effective. Cause he know more tha the generals.
 

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He's leading the charge against North Korea. Something no other did, hence the situation we're in now.
He's leading nothing. Kim called his bluff.

I will give him credit for abandoning the far right Republican kooks and working with Pelosi and Schumer on keeping DACA kids in the USA, though it remains to be seen whether he will keep it up. That's something I suggested he do on healthcare while you were screeching about repeal.
 

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He's leading nothing. Kim called his bluff.

I will give him credit for abandoning the far right Republican kooks and working with Pelosi and Schumer on keeping DACA kids in the USA, though it remains to be seen whether he will keep it up. That's something I suggested he do on healthcare while you were screeching about repeal.
I think he's putting the right wing of the GOP on notice that he can create a coalition on each issue.

Big one will be tax reform, if he can pull something effective out on that it will be a massive win.

On healthcare, he should ignore it for two years and let the Dems and far right GOP own the collapse of Obamacare. After the midterms he would shove a better plan up Mitch and Chucks ass.
 

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I think he's putting the right wing of the GOP on notice that he can create a coalition on each issue.

Big one will be tax reform, if he can pull something effective out on that it will be a massive win.

On healthcare, he should ignore it for two years and let the Dems and far right GOP own the collapse of Obamacare. After the midterms he would shove a better plan up Mitch and Chucks ass.
If the GOP ignores healthcare expect to see them pay the piper at midterms. Only kooks think inflicting pain on American families is a sane strategy when there are clearly bipartisan solutions that could be done today.
 

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If the GOP ignores healthcare expect to see them pay the piper at midterms. Only kooks think inflicting pain on American families is a sane strategy when there are clearly bipartisan solutions that could be done today.
He's not inflicting pain, he's letting THE ONE's healthcare plan run its course. Remember, the plan where you could keep your insurance if you liked it (lie) keep your doctor (lie) and wouldn't add a single dime to the deficit (lie).
 

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If the GOP ignores healthcare expect to see them pay the piper at midterms. Only kooks think inflicting pain on American families is a sane strategy when there are clearly bipartisan solutions that could be done today.
It's too flawed to fix. And it will be the House's fault. They had the means and fucked up.

I will get a better read of the public opinions soon when I fly to Vegas for a week. Blackjack tables, are wonderful things for listening to what various parts of the nation thhink.
 

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It's too flawed to fix. And it will be the House's fault. They had the means and fucked up.

I will get a better read of the public opinions soon when I fly to Vegas for a week. Blackjack tables, are wonderful things for listening to what various parts of the nation thhink.
Yes, all of middle America around a single table.
 

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He's not inflicting pain, he's letting THE ONE's healthcare plan run its course. Remember, the plan where you could keep your insurance if you liked it (lie) keep your doctor (lie) and wouldn't add a single dime to the deficit (lie).
Tell that to the voters in 2020 who were promised healthcare. If the GOP congressmen and senators run on "we're hurting you to make a political point about Obama" voters will hurt them back.

Particularly when their opponents will run on "we were ready to make a deal, they used their majority to play politics with your family".

There is no way to put a positive spin on that.
 

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It's too flawed to fix. And it will be the House's fault. They had the means and fucked up.

I will get a better read of the public opinions soon when I fly to Vegas for a week. Blackjack tables, are wonderful things for listening to what various parts of the nation thhink.
It's not too flawed to fix. There were many reasonable solutions proposed that were cut out because the "Freedom Caucus" said no to everything and the GOP were too stupid to reach out to the Democrats to get it done.

Trump's move on DACA shows the Democrats are not obstructionist, they stand ready to make bipartisan deals to get good legislation through.

The problems only come when you limit the playing field to trying to get to 51 with only GOP senators.
 
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