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Phil C. McNasty

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Or perhaps because he is the most ill-informed POTUS in history who thinks very complex issues are easy to solve until he actually attempts to solve them
Building a wall will NEVER solve all illegal immigration, all it can do is put a bigger dent into it then that currently exists.

But what would be your approach, hey we can't stop all illegal immigration, so lets just stop trying altogether??
While we're at it, we cant stop all crime, so lets get rid of the police
 

toguy5252

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Building a wall will NEVER solve all illegal immigration, all it can do is put a bigger dent into it then that currently exists.

But what would be your approach, hey we can't stop all illegal immigration, so lets just stop trying altogether??
While we're at it, we cant stop all crime, so lets get rid of the police
The vast majority of aliens who overstay come in through airports. That is just the fact.

Trump made some idiotic promise which sounded good on the campaign trail and which he knows he cannot keep. Mexico will not pay and the wall will not be build and all in all a good thing for the US.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The vast majority of aliens who overstay come in through airports. That is just the fact
One thing at a time, wall first, then worry about people overstaying Visa's

Trump made some idiotic promise which sounded good on the campaign trail and which he knows he cannot keep. Mexico will not pay and the wall will not be build and all in all a good thing for the US
Its not idiotic to make campaign promises you cant keep (or half-keep). Politicians do it all the time.

At least Trump is making some sort of effort, which is admirable
 

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One thing at a time, wall first, then worry about people overstaying Visa's


Its not idiotic to make campaign promises you cant keep (or half-keep). Politicians do it all the time.

At least Trump is making some sort of effort, which is admirable

The wall is a simple minded answer brought to us by a simple minded POTUS. The wall wont happen. He knows it and I suspect you do as well. Trump promised to solve all of Americas problems in the first hundred days. Everything was a simple problem which those idiots in Washington did not know how to solve but he did because he is really smart. Really quite funny.
 

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Gee I dunno, maybe try to get it down even further??
Sorry but I'm in business and I always look at the cost effectiveness of a project. To spend all that money to reduce illegal crossing seems ineffective when a) the majority of illegals don't sneak across the border but simply lie when entering or overstay their visa and b) when essentially a word of mouth campaign seems to have made a significant cut with zero cost.
 

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Sorry but I'm in business and I always look at the cost effectiveness of a project. To spend all that money to reduce illegal crossing seems ineffective when a) the majority of illegals don't sneak across the border but simply lie when entering or overstay their visa and b) when essentially a word of mouth campaign seems to have made a significant cut with zero cost.
The law to build this has been on the books since 2006, Clinton, Obama and Schumer all voted for it, W signed it.
 

basketcase

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The law to build this has been on the books since 2006, Clinton, Obama and Schumer all voted for it, W signed it.
And? It is still a waste of money, especially since the vast majority of illegals arrive in airports or official crossings.
 
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And? It is still a waste of money, especially since the vast majority of illegals arrive in airports or official crossings.
Just be happy it's not your tax dollars. If you were paying I could see the stink.
 

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The law to build this has been on the books since 2006, Clinton, Obama and Schumer all voted for it, W signed it.
That's a fence, not a wall. Trump was very vocal about the difference between a fence and a wall.

But you totally failed to answer BC'sc point about most of the illegals entering legally (tourist visa abuse and overstay).
 

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We need a central database of every person issued tourist, student and temporary work visas. It should contain all their data and an indicator whether they are still in the country or have left. Then if the expiration date has passed and they're still here, any action they do (withdraw money, use a credit card, anything that requires ID, etc) causes a blip in the radar and they are hunted down and deported.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I dunno if you guys ever watch that TV show called "border control" (or whatever its called).
Its on A&E, Discovery or one of them TLC channels or whatever.

Its pretty damn hard to get into Canada if you're a foreigner. I actually had no idea how tough it is.
If you dont bring enough holiday cash and you look like you're here to work, you aint getting in.
It is what it is...LOL.

Sucks to be you
 

basketcase

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We need a central database of every person issued tourist, student and temporary work visas. ..
Do you think that the government doesn't record the names of people entering the country?

And yes, the rest of your plan could be implemented if the country is willing to pay for the significant increase in enforcement.
 

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We need a central database of every person issued tourist, student and temporary work visas. It should contain all their data and an indicator whether they are still in the country or have left. Then if the expiration date has passed and they're still here, any action they do (withdraw money, use a credit card, anything that requires ID, etc) causes a blip in the radar and they are hunted down and deported.
How much are you willing to see your taxes increase to pay for this? It'll cost you quite a lot. You ready to pay up?
 
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