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Then we have this (which should be titled Mao's Red Guard moves to North Carolina)

mandrill

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Then we have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uAZa4H1vk

To which the Governor of North Carolina merely says "There is a better way to remove these monuments." Hmm where are the protests about how he hasn't gone far enough in denouncing criminal activity?
Maybe people feel more concern about a young woman who was murdered by a White supremacist terrorist than a chunk of rock?
 

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Then we have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uAZa4H1vk

To which the Governor of North Carolina merely says "There is a better way to remove these monuments." Hmm where are the protests about how he hasn't gone far enough in denouncing criminal activity?
Rather reminds me of the toppling of Saddam's statue that marked the American-made descent of Iraq into anarchy, sectarian violence and domination by ISIS and Iran. But we all applauded that silly bit of boasting.

I'd have to agree with the Governor, but the Charlottesville BigotFest clearly proves there are too many who who believe there is NO way to remove these monuments, for any politician to ignore. Perhaps if he'd added something like, "Make no mistake, they are all going. Going with the dignity and consideration that proves we all have learned something in the centuries since they were erected, and without dishonour to their those they commemorate. But they are going."
 

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Then we have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uAZa4H1vk

To which the Governor of North Carolina merely says "There is a better way to remove these monuments." Hmm where are the protests about how he hasn't gone far enough in denouncing criminal activity?
Thanks for the link! I especially liked the part when the fat bearded student in the white t-shirt tried to bravely kick the statue and lost his shoe! Good visualization of who is on that side of the debate.
 

mandrill

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Thanks for the link! I especially liked the part when the fat bearded student in the white t-shirt tried to bravely kick the statue and lost his shoe! Good visualization of who is on that side of the debate.
Well, at least the Charlotteville Nazis were mostly skinny and kept their shoes on. So you make another valid point. As you so often do.
 

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Well, at least the Charlotteville Nazis were mostly skinny and kept their shoes on. So you make another valid point. As you so often do.
You didn't find it ironic that there was a textbook snowflake front and center in that video?

Makes me wonder what you did notice about the video.

How about the fact that it was dangerous and there were no safety precautions? Have a look at this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPYGmFpaPt4 Notice how the big fat student climbs up the ladder and supports himself with one foot on the top rung (a definite no-no)

How about that there was apparently no plan to remove the statue once it was brought down?

Did you notice that all of this took place outside a courthouse? I think some of these kids will be making a return visit shortly: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/charges-sought-toppled-confederate-statue-49226601.

What about selling the statue to a museum or collector instead of destroying it? Wouldn't that be in the public interest? Seems to be a market for them: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/the-meaning-of-our-confederate-monuments.html.

A whole bunch of points for you to respond to with some "Nazi blather" retort.
 

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"Make no mistake, they are all going. Going with the dignity and consideration that proves we all have learned something in the centuries since they were erected, and without dishonour to their those they commemorate. But they are going."
Meanwhile, they are still honouring the statutes of the man who started a war that killed 700,000 Americans.
 

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Why should losers (confederacy, Nazi's and white supremacists) get participation ribbons (confederate statues) after they lost in the 1800's. They were traitors to the US and all their statues should be immediately removed. Do you see Hitler statues in Berlin? No because he lost. Try harder next time nazi's.

PS here's a great vid from Dailycaller (tucker carlson website) on the proper technique for plowing into groups of protestors.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/27/h...gh-protesters-trying-to-block-the-road-video/
 

oldjones

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Meanwhile, they are still honouring the statutes of the man who started a war that killed 700,000 Americans.
That would be the Commander of the North Carolina Militia who gave the order to fire on Fort Sumter. Didn't notice a mention of his statue in the guidebook when I toured the Fort and the City.

There's nothing wrong with honouring sacrifice, service and heroism to support an ideal. But the truth and the facts that can tarnish and stain any ideals of service in any war cannot and should not be suppressed. The Confederate forces were fighting and dying to continue the unjustifiable and cruel enslavement of their fellow human beings, and an acknowledgement of their sad delusion should be a part of each of those memorials.

Those monuments belong in cemeteries, not public squares.
 

SkyRider

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Those monuments belong in cemeteries, not public squares.
Let's hope the crazies don't start destroying confederate cemeteries next. BTW: Slavery was on its way out. No need to star a war and killing 700,000 humans. Plus, that President had no post-emancipation plan and the problems are still very apparent in Chicago, Baltimore, etc. to-day.
 

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The Jefferson Memorial must go, according to Al Sharpton. I agree. Also, anything to do with George Washington needs to be purged from the history. Actually, let's just wipe the slate clean, replace everything with numbers(except number 1- too exclusive and reactionary) and stop teaching history altogether. We can replace history lessons with an hour of children of right color flogging the kids of privilege.
 

SkyRider

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The Jefferson Memorial must go, according to Al Sharpton. I agree. Also, anything to do with George Washington needs to be purged from the history.
Holy shit! 41 of the 56 signers of the American Declaration of Independence owned or had own slaves. Does this mean these United States are still a colony of the U.K.?
 

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Why should losers (confederacy, Nazi's and white supremacists) get participation ribbons (confederate statues) after they lost in the 1800's.
Well next is some idiot arguing that National Guard units should have Confederate Battle Streamers removed from their Colors.
 

SkyRider

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The police in Durham are viewing the video with the intention of arresting those responsible.
Absolutely, identify, arrest and prosecute the vandals for destroying public property.

I saw a brief video clip and it appears the idiots torn down a statute of Andrew Jackson and not Stonewall Jackson.
 

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Absolutely, identify, arrest and prosecute the vandals for destroying public property.

I saw a brief video clip and it appears the idiots torn down a statute of Andrew Jackson and not Stonewall Jackson.
Well stupidity knows no bounds.

That said I feel that Andrew Jackson was a far more obnoxious person than Thomas J. Jackson!
 
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