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Canadians donate to family of slain U.S. soldier in wake of Omar Khadr settlement
WATCH ABOVE: Videos from Global News' ongoing coverage of the Omar Khadr saga.

Canadians across the country have been reaching into their wallets to donate money to the family of an American soldier whom Omar Khadr is accused of killing in Afghanistan 15 years ago.

The online fundraising effort – part political protest, part generosity – comes amid a furor over the $10.5 million sources said the federal government paid Khadr for breaching his rights while he was an American prisoner at Guantanamo Bay.


Jerome Dondo, of St. Claude, Man., who said he donated $10 to the campaign, decried the federal payout while the widow and children of U.S. special forces soldier Sgt. Chris Speer were fighting in Canadian court for that money.

“The Canadian government should have at least waited until a court decision was made before sending the payment,” said Dondo, a married accountant with nine children. “This was my way of showing the Speer family support for their loss.

Over the past week, more than 2,200 donors in both Canada and the United States have contributed $134,000 to Tabitha Speer and her two children Taryn and Tanner, now in their mid and late teens.

The family, and blinded former U.S. soldier Sgt. Layne Morris, failed this week to freeze Khadr’s assets while they try to enforce a US$134-million wrongful-death award against him from a Utah court.

Heike Pfuetzner, a retiree in Abbotsford, B.C., called it a “personal thing” to donate $15.

“I am disgusted with the government giving so much money to a convicted criminal,” Pfuetzner said. “I’m just really upset.”

Ottawa-based talk-radio host Brian Lilley, co-founder of right-wing Rebel Media, who started the fundraising campaign, said he shared the anger of many Canadians over the settlement and wanted to channel the outrage into something positive.

“It’s trying to show generosity out of a political situation,” Lilley said.

While most people tell him they’re are glad he started the fundraiser, he said, a small number have accused him of “grandstanding.”

Speer has not responded to requests to talk about the situation but in the past expressed appreciation for a similar fundraiser in 2012, when Khadr was returned from Guantanamo Bay to Canada to serve out his sentence. That campaign raised about $100,000 – with about half coming from the Edmonton-based South Alberta Light Horse Regiment.

READ MORE: Omar Khadr’s assets targeted by relatives of slain U.S. soldier

The current campaign aims to raise $1 million over a month. Donors who give at least $2,500 will have their names engraved on a “solidarity” plaque that will be sent to Speer but most donated amounts range from $10 to $100. Lilley could not say how many donors were from the United States.

Georges Hallak, 47, a businessman in Montreal put up $25.

“It’s very simple: I find it unfair that (Prime Minister Justin) Trudeau is allowed to give money to a convicted terrorist…and (the widow of the) person that he killed – or supposedly what he was tried for – she’s getting nothing,” Hallak said.
 

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here's another cause for ya..... the clown who shot up the Eaton's Centre food court a few years ago was just granted a re-trial ( and they have video of him shooting)
 

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I have no problem with the widow getting money, her husband got killed doing his job and the soldiers in the field acted professionally. Don't support her misguided crusade against Khadr but not enough is done for the families of fallen soldiers so if this results in her getting a helping hand that's great.
 

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guelph I suspect that many of these same people donate to both. I have not donated to this cause yet but have donated to veterans causes.
 

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Help raise $1,000,000 for Sgt. Chris Speer's kids!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-raise-1-000-000-for-sgt-chris-speer-s-kids#/

Help raise $1,000,000 for Sgt. Chris Speer's kids!
Trudeau gave terrorist Khadr $10,000,000. Let's pay for college for his victim's fatherless kids.

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By now you’ve heard about the $10.5 million payment that Liberal Canadian prime Minister Justin Trudeau gave to confessed terrorist Omar Khadr.

Meanwhile, the real victims, the Speer family get nothing. But I want to change that and I need your help.

We want to help the Speer family once again. So we are launching a crowdfunding campaign to try and raise one million dollars for the Speer children who were left fatherless by Khadr.
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By now you’ve heard about the $10.5 million payment that Justin Trudeau gave to confessed terrorist Omar Khadr.
$10.5 million and an apology -- to a convicted, confessed terrorist and war criminal.

Meanwhile, the real victims get nothing. Khadr killed U.S. army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer, leaving his wife Tabitha a widow, and his two young kids fatherless.

It's a disgrace. It's outrageous. But there is something POSITIVE we can do.

We can help the Speer family, by raising one million dollars for the Speer children, to pay for their education, and anything else they need in life.

All the money we raise will go to them. Indiegogo, the transparent crowdfunding site that we are using, takes a small processing fee to cover their expenses and credit card fees, but anything we get will go to the Speer kids.

We’ve done this before. Back in the Sun News days we raised just shy of $100,000 for the Speer kids. They got all the money then and they will get all the money now.

If you can only afford $5, that will help. But if you can give $25, $100 or $1,000 - maybe more, consider doing that.

If you want to donate by cheque, via snail mail, do that. too!

Just put "Speer Kids" in the memo section and make the cheque payable to:

For Canada
PO Box 61056 Eglinton/Dufferin RO
Toronto, ON M6E 5B2

Here is an email from Leisl Morris, whose husband Layne Morris was injured by Khadr -- he lost sight in one eye. Here's what she wrote:

I first met Tabitha Speer in Germany after our husbands were wounded by a grenade thrown by Omar Khadr. Christopher Speer was mortally wounded and left his young family with no father to care for them. Tabitha's children were toddlers at the time and have grown up not knowing their father. Previously, funds have been raised for the Speer children. The Speer family has been touched by the generosity of others and greatly appreciates any assistance offered to to them. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts!

Leisl Morris

And here is an email from Tabitha:

I am overwhelmed by the outpouring of positive support. If you would like to start a crowdfund for Taryn and Tanner, I have no objection.

Thank you for your continued support.

Sincerely,
Tabitha Speer

So please consider helping. There's nothing we can do to stop Justin Trudeau from grovelling before this terrorist, and giving him our hard-earned taxpayers money. It's a national disgrace, but we are powerless to stop it.

What we have the power to do is actually help the victims -- something Trudeau has never considered doing.

Let's show the world that what happened in Canada was not in our name. Let's do something constructive and positive, and help the real victims, the Speer kids who grew up without their father.

--Brian Lilley
 

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Help raise $1,000,000 for Sgt. Chris Speer's kids!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-raise-1-000-000-for-sgt-chris-speer-s-kids#/

Help raise $1,000,000 for Sgt. Chris Speer's kids!
Trudeau gave terrorist Khadr $10,000,000. Let's pay for college for his victim's fatherless kids.

TheRebel.media
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About
$221,263 CAD raised by 3593 backers
22% of $1,000,000
flexible goal
16 days left
BACK IT
OVERVIEW
WELLNESS

By now you’ve heard about the $10.5 million payment that Liberal Canadian prime Minister Justin Trudeau gave to confessed terrorist Omar Khadr.

Meanwhile, the real victims, the Speer family get nothing. But I want to change that and I need your help.

We want to help the Speer family once again. So we are launching a crowdfunding campaign to try and raise one million dollars for the Speer children who were left fatherless by Khadr.
STORY UPDATES (1) COMMENTS (5) BACKERS (3,593)
By now you’ve heard about the $10.5 million payment that Justin Trudeau gave to confessed terrorist Omar Khadr.
$10.5 million and an apology -- to a convicted, confessed terrorist and war criminal.

Meanwhile, the real victims get nothing. Khadr killed U.S. army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer, leaving his wife Tabitha a widow, and his two young kids fatherless.

It's a disgrace. It's outrageous. But there is something POSITIVE we can do.

We can help the Speer family, by raising one million dollars for the Speer children, to pay for their education, and anything else they need in life.

All the money we raise will go to them. Indiegogo, the transparent crowdfunding site that we are using, takes a small processing fee to cover their expenses and credit card fees, but anything we get will go to the Speer kids.

We’ve done this before. Back in the Sun News days we raised just shy of $100,000 for the Speer kids. They got all the money then and they will get all the money now.

If you can only afford $5, that will help. But if you can give $25, $100 or $1,000 - maybe more, consider doing that.

If you want to donate by cheque, via snail mail, do that. too!

Just put "Speer Kids" in the memo section and make the cheque payable to:

For Canada
PO Box 61056 Eglinton/Dufferin RO
Toronto, ON M6E 5B2

Here is an email from Leisl Morris, whose husband Layne Morris was injured by Khadr -- he lost sight in one eye. Here's what she wrote:

I first met Tabitha Speer in Germany after our husbands were wounded by a grenade thrown by Omar Khadr. Christopher Speer was mortally wounded and left his young family with no father to care for them. Tabitha's children were toddlers at the time and have grown up not knowing their father. Previously, funds have been raised for the Speer children. The Speer family has been touched by the generosity of others and greatly appreciates any assistance offered to to them. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts!

Leisl Morris

And here is an email from Tabitha:

I am overwhelmed by the outpouring of positive support. If you would like to start a crowdfund for Taryn and Tanner, I have no objection.

Thank you for your continued support.

Sincerely,
Tabitha Speer

So please consider helping. There's nothing we can do to stop Justin Trudeau from grovelling before this terrorist, and giving him our hard-earned taxpayers money. It's a national disgrace, but we are powerless to stop it.

What we have the power to do is actually help the victims -- something Trudeau has never considered doing.

Let's show the world that what happened in Canada was not in our name. Let's do something constructive and positive, and help the real victims, the Speer kids who grew up without their father.

--Brian Lilley
Help raise $1,000,000 for Sgt. Chris Speer's kids!
Trudeau gave terrorist Khadr $10,000,000. Let's pay for college for his victim's fatherless kids.

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$221,263 CAD raised by 3593 backers
 

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Why aren't they donating to Canadian Vetrans?
Every day,...its called taxes.

The point is guelph,...Canadians are making a statement by donating to the widow,...we don't agree with the Canadian government supporting terrorism.
 

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Every day,...its called taxes.

The point is guelph,...Canadians are making a statement by donating to the widow,...we don't agree with the Canadian government supporting terrorism.[/Q


Why aren't these donors making statement by donating to Canadian Veterans' causes? The main driving force a right wing blog who loves to hate any thing liberal. Truth has never mattered Ezra Levant and his band of disciples.



The payment was made for damages due to previous governments failures to act appropriately. It seems you have read the numerous posts on this written by knowledgeable lawyers, reporters and researchers.


The only terrorism in sordid affair is the behavior of US military in their prison camps maintained outside of the US to prevent over sight by US courts.



Here is one veteran's opinion:


From Toronto Star Letters July 22, 2017

Too many years ago, when I took the Queen’s shilling and signed on to the British Territorial Army Parachute Battalion, I also accepted that I might be put in harm’s way. That was the contract between myself and my sovereign.

I can only assume that when Sgt. Chris Speer signed on to the American army, he accepted that his president could put him in harm’s way in defence of American interests. Sgt. Speer accepted this contract. He worked very hard to be a first-rate professional soldier.

His toughness, skill and dedication were rewarded by his acceptance into the American army’s Delta force, a unit that is the equivalent to the Canadian Joint Task Force, the British Special Air Service and the American Navy’s SEALS. These are units of dedicated, elite soldiers; war is their profession and they are proud and eager to exercise it.

Speer and his Delta force comrades accepted that they could get killed and sadly Speer did die on the battlefield. He died doing what he was trained to do in a unit he was proud to belong to. Regardless of who killed him, that is the reality of soldiering.

Surely, Canadian judges will rule that Speer was killed in the line of duty. That he was allegedly killed by Omar Khadr is immaterial. That the U.S. courts have allowed the action against Khadr to go forward is a travesty of justice.
 

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Since this thread has been opened to avoid the discussions in the the threads I will post the comments again


https://www.law.utoronto.ca/news/pr...led-omar-khadr-s-why-he-deserves-compensation

Prof. Audrey Macklin writes "Ottawa failed Omar Khadr: That’s why he deserves compensation"

Wednesday, July 12, 2017
In a commentary in the Globe and Mail, Prof. Audrey Macklin analyzes the facts of the Omar Khadr case in light of the federal government's settlement with him ("Ottawa failed Omar Khadr: That’s why he deserves compensation," July 5, 2017).

Read the full commentary on the Globe and Mail website, or below.

Prof. Macklin has also discussed the case in other media, including an interview on CBC radio's Here and Now and another on CBC TV's Power & Politics.

Ottawa failed Omar Khadr: That’s why he deserves compensation

By Audrey Macklin

July 5, 2017

Should the government of Canada apologize and compensate Omar Khadr for its complicity in human rights violations committed against him? Nothing I say is likely to change the minds of those committed to the view that he is a terrorist who deserves whatever he got. Recent U.S. experience teaches that some politicians don’t care much about the facts, and exposing their dishonesty doesn’t always matter much to those who support them. But here goes anyway.

A good place to start is former Conservative minister Jason Kenney’s tweet about the settlement. “Odious. Confessed terrorist who assembled & planted the same kind of IEDs [improvised explosive devices] that killed 97 Canadians to be given $10-million. Mr. Khadr confessed to murdering Christopher Speer, a medic who rushed to his aid.”

“Confessed”: I attended the military commission hearing in Guantanamo Bay where Mr. Khadr’s chief interrogator, Joshua Claus, testified by video-conference from an undisclosed U.S. location.

The documentary film Taxi to the Dark Side raised evidence that Mr. Claus tortured detainees, and tortured some to death. In 2005, Mr. Claus accepted a plea bargain before a court martial, where he admitted to forcing water down a detainee’s throat, twisting a hood over his head until he choked, and to abuse of an Afghan taxi driver who died in custody from his injuries. Mr. Claus was discharged from the army.

During his testimony, when asked whether he shone excruciatingly bright lights in Mr. Khadr’s eyes after surgery on those eyes, whether he put a bag over Mr. Khadr's head and choked him, whether he threw him off a hospital stretcher hours after major surgery, whether he bound Mr. Khadr’s hands over his head and hung them from the ceiling for hours, whether he subjected him to prolonged sleep deprivation and stress positions, whether he threatened Mr. Khadr with rape in a U.S. prison by “big black men,” Mr. Claus mostly shook his head, or smirked and replied that he couldn’t remember. Pause to consider what it means to say that one can’t recall systematically torturing a human being daily over a period of several weeks. I don’t know whether Mr. Khadr threw the grenade, but I know that a confession extracted through torture doesn’t prove that he did. The same goes for a confession coerced through the plausible fear of indefinite detention in Guantanamo Bay.

“Murder”: Under the laws of war, a combatant who kills another combatant cannot be charged with murder. That’s called combatant immunity. Non-combatants who kill a combatant can be charged with murder, and they are entitled to the procedural protections owed to a criminal accused. Mr. Khadr was treated neither as a combatant nor as an accused criminal. Instead, the United States invented a new war crime called “murder by an unlawful alien enemy combatant.” The new offence made it lawful for U.S. soldiers to kill Mr. Khadr, but made it a war crime if he killed a U.S. soldier. This ersatz war crime was invented by the United States after his capture and then applied to his actions retroactively. No system governed by the rule of law does this.

“Medic”: It is a war crime to kill a medic. Sergeant Speer was indeed training to be a medic. But he was not acting as a medic during the battle in which he was killed and he was not rushing to Mr. Khadr’s aid when he died. Not even the U.S. military prosecutors alleged this. Sgt. Speer’s death as a combatant, a tragic loss to his family and his country, was not a war crime.

“IEDs”: Mr. Khadr was indeed filmed assembling IEDs. And, as we know, he was 15 years old and in the company and control of adults when he did so. From child soldiers in Sierra Leone to15-year-old Canadians accused of violent crimes, the United States and Canadian law regards minors differently than adults – except for Mr. Khadr.

The government of Canada is wise to apologize and compensate him because its actions and omissions were morally wrong and reprehensible. Instead of protecting a citizen and a minor, they exploited the opportunity to interrogate him, indifferent to his abject pleas for help. Instead of seeking his repatriation – as every other government of every other Western country successfully did for their nationals – the government obstructed his return, long after the U.S. signalled its willingness to act.

The government is prudent to settle. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled back in 2010 that the government violated Mr. Khadr’s Charter rights by interrogating him and handing over the evidence to the United States. That relatively narrow decision provides the starting point for civil liability but does not exhaust it. Litigation would be protracted, ugly and force disclosure of conduct by Canadian officials that would publicly disgrace the government, and potentially lead to liability and a damages award that would dwarf the amount of a settlement, especially when added to the staggering costs of litigation.

There are similarities and differences between Mr. Khadr’s case and those of Maher Arar, and Muayyed Nureddin, Ahmad Abou-Elmatti and Abdullah Almalki, each of whom received apologies and compensation. But all have this in common: The Canadian government was complicit in the commission of grave human rights violations against them at the hands of foreign governments, and did little or nothing to protect them. That is the justification for apology and compensation.
 

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Lol guelph and his terrorist loving articles


Voluntary charity is a beautiful thing. This shows people's hearts are in the right place
 

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It seems you have read the numerous posts on this written by knowledgeable lawyers, reporters and researchers.


The only terrorism in sordid affair is the behavior of US military in their prison camps maintained outside of the US to prevent over sight by US courts..
,..."The only terrorism",...the whole fricken Khadr family were terrorists,...committing terrorism.


You are either ignornat of what the point is,...or you think you are being smart by pretending to ignore it.

The national Canadian terrorist family was well known to Canadian authorities, but did nothing,...the only reason that could be is because they were told to not interfere with them,... because a Canadian is a Canadian, is a Canadian,...

None of this very expensive ridiculous precedent setting action by Hair Doo would have been necessary if the Canadian security agencies were allowed to do their job.
 

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Every day,...its called taxes.

The point is guelph,...Canadians are making a statement by donating to the widow,...we don't agree with the Canadian government supporting terrorism.
What a warped viewpoint. Lots of soldiers go to war and get killed. But only one's family gets your charity, and only to score political points against the "evil" liberal!
 

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,..."The only terrorism",...the whole fricken Khadr family were terrorists,...committing terrorism.


You are either ignornat of what the point is,...or you think you are being smart by pretending to ignore it.

The national Canadian terrorist family was well known to Canadian authorities, but did nothing,...the only reason that could be is because they were told to not interfere with them,... because a Canadian is a Canadian, is a Canadian,...

None of this very expensive ridiculous precedent setting action by Hair Doo would have been necessary if the Canadian security agencies were allowed to do their job.
Where has this been proven in any court of law. (not a rigged tribunal)
 

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Lol guelph and his terrorist loving articles


Voluntary charity is a beautiful thing. This shows people's hearts are in the right place
What do you have against reasonable discussion by knowledgeable professional?

Is it the normal right wing logic you are ignorant and proud of it.
 

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Where has this been proven in any court of law. (not a rigged tribunal)
So now you are denying that the national Canadian terrorist family,...were not RCMP documented terrorists,...but just a "fun" loving family who enjoyed traveling around the globe blowing up people.
 

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What do you have against reasonable discussion by knowledgeable professional?

Is it the normal right wing logic you are ignorant and proud of it.
A knowledgeable professional's credibility is thrown out the window the instant he defends paying a member of al-qaeda. Whatever the law says, you don't do that; it's fundamentally immoral.
 

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What a warped viewpoint. Lots of soldiers go to war and get killed. But only one's family gets your charity, and only to score political points against the "evil" liberal!
You really are simple minded,...its NOT about the money,...its making a statement,..."Canadians don't support terrorism".

And,...the Khadr family were NOT Canadian soldiers,...even though they were funded by Canada,...doesn't make them Canadian soldiers.
 
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