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Here we are. Another Gay Pride weekend.

CP 24 interviewed some dykes (Dyke March to-day). One dyke is teaching her daughters not to trust the police. Good. When her daughters need help, they can call BLM.
 

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Just have a question for people on the board. I saw a news clip today Of Dyke march in Toronto. Dyke is not a word I use and I thought it was not supposed to be used anymore. So my question is do you guys and girls use it and in what context. I know as a society especially these days words can easily offend so curious on this.
 

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Just have a question for people on the board. I saw a news clip today Of Dyke march in Toronto. Dyke is not a word I use and I thought it was not supposed to be used anymore. So my question is do you guys and girls use it and in what context. I know as a society especially these days words can easily offend so curious on this.
I am beginning to find the offense that is taken over so many words to be really offensive in and of itself. It is beginning to come across as a form of moral superiority, often from the perpetually aggrieved.
 

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Just have a question for people on the board. I saw a news clip today Of Dyke march in Toronto. Dyke is not a word I use and I thought it was not supposed to be used anymore. So my question is do you guys and girls use it and in what context. I know as a society especially these days words can easily offend so curious on this.
Ignore if you're looking for a fight.

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I asked a group of my lesbian friends who I know don't use the term about this.

How lesbians got this word applied to them is a big part of the problematic nature of this word. That's pretty well-documented (as is "fag"). Burning women isn't cool. Words that remind the community of the past practice of how lesbians were treated by society isn't much cooler.

Basically, because of historical and contemporary (primarily) negative connotations that come when that term is applied by a member outside of the lesbian community, to a member inside the community, it's a term that can/should be avoided.

To confuse matters, if you're a member of community yourself it can be used as a term of empowerment, in-particular when used amongst other lesbians.

The examples they gave:

"There were a lot of dykes at the lesbian march." = Not appropriate.
"There were a lot of dykes at the Dyke March." = Not appropriate.
"There were a lot of lesbians at the Dyke March." = More appropriate.

Within the community there isn't consensus on whether there is ever an appropriate way/time to use the term, and therefore some don't use it at all. As to why it's still called the Dyke March, despite it being a problematic term, I was basically told "Lesbian Community Politics."

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So, just as I'm sure you'd never use the n-word, I imagine you understand (but not necessarily agree) that this term CAN be used as a term of endearment within the community it initially was designed to offend.

Contemporary usage is entirely "owned" by the group the word historically oppressed.

As a straight, white-male, I can live a relatively normal life by accepting the above while not using this term. I'm OK with avoiding it now that I understand the harm it causes.

Not being a lesbian myself, I don't feel I should really have a say on how/when it can and cannot be used.
 

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Watching CP24 live from Church Street. Many party goers posing with uniform police officer for selfies.:wave:
 

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managee great explanation. I figured it might be something like that but I am always behind the times with new terminology so good to know. Skyrider This is not the parade that is against the police.
 

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managee great explanation. I figured it might be something like that but I am always behind the times with new terminology so good to know. Skyrider This is not the parade that is against the police.
You're welcome.

I know it's splitting hairs, but SkyRider's thread title is redundant.

I believe the parade and the event as a whole is "Pride" not "Gay Pride" nowadays. Gay as a term is too narrow to capture all of the different groups that are represented in Pride Celebrations. From About Us: "We aspire to unite and empower people with diverse sexual orientations, gender identities and gender expressions." In other words, LGBT+.

If you said "I'm marching in the Pride Parade this year." You won't be confused with someone marching in another pride parade.

We could all save ourselves milliseconds next year by just going with the preferred name of these events.
 
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I am beginning to find the offense that is taken over so many words to be really offensive in and of itself. It is beginning to come across as a form of moral superiority, often from the perpetually aggrieved.
It's so fucking over the top now. Don't know if you watch baseball but last year the Jays lost a game due to the new slide rule at second base. (incase you don't watch baseball, you basically have to be careful sliding into second as to hurt the second basemen)

Anyway, the Jays so the game on a controversial play because of it and the press interviewed their manager John Gibbons asking him about the new rule and he said something along lines of "this game is starting to get ridiculous. Maybe we should come out wearing dresses". So I'm listening to the post game show on the radio and two calls up talking about they can't believe he said that, and he's just glad his son didn't hear that, and yada yada yada.

Society has gone so overboard with this shit.
 

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I bet the blm gangsters will disrupt it again
:popcorn:

I knew it :first:... I mean it was obvious
 
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I am beginning to find the offense that is taken over so many words to be really offensive in and of itself. It is beginning to come across as a form of moral superiority, often from the perpetually aggrieved
I'm offended by your statement
 

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So let me get this straight. "I'm mad, because people are mad at me or get mad at the things I say. They should stop being so mad, because I should get to say whatever I want to whomever I want, without consequence, like before."

I don't get mad at this stuff. I just keep up with it. It takes very little energy or effort.
 

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It's so fucking over the top now. Don't know if you watch baseball but last year the Jays lost a game due to the new slide rule at second base. (incase you don't watch baseball, you basically have to be careful sliding into second as to hurt the second basemen)

Anyway, the Jays so the game on a controversial play because of it and the press interviewed their manager John Gibbons asking him about the new rule and he said something along lines of "this game is starting to get ridiculous. Maybe we should come out wearing dresses". So I'm listening to the post game show on the radio and two calls up talking about they can't believe he said that, and he's just glad his son didn't hear that, and yada yada yada.

Society has gone so overboard with this shit.
1. Baseball has always been filled with ridiculous rules.
2. Yes it is sexist. I'm sure female baseball players slide just as aggressively.
3. The fact that he is saying trying to take out another player is just part of the game bothers me.
 

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basketcase taking out another player at second base was always part of the game until last year. Chase Utley went overboard on his slide and a new rule was put in place.
 

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So let me get this straight. "I'm mad, because people are mad at me or get mad at the things I say. They should stop being so mad, because I should get to say whatever I want to whomever I want, without consequence, like before."

I don't get mad at this stuff. I just keep up with it. It takes very little energy or effort.
You don't get it.

There are words which were designed to hurt marginalised people, like "nigger" and "dyke". Those people have taken the sting out of the word by using it themselves, taking it over. They can do that. You, not being part of the marginalised group, cannot.

Dismissing this all as people "being mad" really trivialized the extent to which prejudice against these people was systematic and institutionalized.

There was no "like before" for blacks and lesbians with respect to some sort of appropriate use of those words.
 

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Great speech by Reverend Brent Hawkes this morning.

The weather cleared up so I decided to attend. Saw a uniform police officer and expressed my support. (BTW: BLM created an incident at the NYC parade.)

Water gun attack tactic. Blend in with the crowd. When the target is turned away, quickly attack. Fire 5 shots and then quickly retreat into the crowd. The target cannot shoot back because innocent civilians are in the way.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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LOL......BLM just crashed the parade.

Its live on CP24
 

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You don't get it.

There are words which were designed to hurt marginalised people, like "nigger" and "dyke". Those people have taken the sting out of the word by using it themselves, taking it over. They can do that. You, not being part of the marginalised group, cannot.

Dismissing this all as people "being mad" really trivialized the extent to which prejudice against these people was systematic and institutionalized.

There was no "like before" for blacks and lesbians with respect to some sort of appropriate use of those words.
Cool your outrage, you big baby. Look at my posts above then look up meiosis.
 
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