PLXTO
Toronto Escorts

Canna Raids

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,711
3,410
113
I have one nearby me. And a lot more sketchy characters in the area now. People begging for change. And some who can't wait to get home and spark up right there on the street.

I don't have an issue with pot but I do with idiocy. They need to be shut down and it all placed under controls until people can treat it responsibly.

As for me once it's legal I think I will add four new plants to my backyard.
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,711
3,410
113
dude you live in downtown toronto. if you can't handle people begging for change or smoking pot on the streets, you should take up white flight. it's how people dealt with the issue back in the day.
Actually I'm on the outskirts. Deep suburbia. With a middle school down the road and a grade school not far off. An ice cream shop is four doors down. And a couple of patios for restaurants.

In other words it's a nuisance. Both for panhandlers who have only parked themselves there BECAUSE of the dispensary and after sparking up publicly in front of kids(ive seen it with my own eyes) and to the patios and outdoor seating for the ice cream shop(and the families there as well).

It isn't pot. It's irresponsible behavior. No different then idiot drunks.

Go home to do it. And get a job to pay for it.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,732
6,289
113
...

Go home to do it. ....
That's one thing I'm interested in seeing. Consumption of alcohol in public is illegal. Cigarettes can be smoked almost anywhere outside. Where will weed fall?

I also hope people realize that employers won't take any more kindly to showing up high than showing up drunk. That Bay St. guy smoking on the way home is one thing. They typical 4:20 then going back to work is another.
 

managee

Banned
Jun 19, 2013
1,731
2
0
That's one thing I'm interested in seeing. Consumption of alcohol in public is illegal. Cigarettes can be smoked almost anywhere outside. Where will weed fall?

I also hope people realize that employers won't take any more kindly to showing up high than showing up drunk. That Bay St. guy smoking on the way home is one thing. They typical 4:20 then going back to work is another.
I'm really interested to hear about this as well. In-general, I'm up for a more liberal approach than I imagine it'll be.

As for employers, I feel that's pretty easily sorted out. Some businesses will make it a policy, if they don't already have one, some won't. I don't recall ever working for a business where being intoxicated (on weed, drink or drugs) wasn't grounds for dismissal.
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,711
3,410
113
That's one thing I'm interested in seeing. Consumption of alcohol in public is illegal. Cigarettes can be smoked almost anywhere outside. Where will weed fall?

I also hope people realize that employers won't take any more kindly to showing up high than showing up drunk. That Bay St. guy smoking on the way home is one thing. They typical 4:20 then going back to work is another.
I'm assuming it will eventually end up under intoxication in public.

the legalization process is going to be a lot more complicated then people realize. We have to withdraw from international drug enforcement treaties dealing with pot. And deal with the ramifications for how Canadians can travel as a result.

Then there are all the federal laws, provincial laws, even municipal smoking bylaws that are based on tobacco but will have to be modified for pot.

And on the social side a whole lot of people are going to be idiots(cripes there are some now who actually think because Trudeau got elected it was legal from that point) and how they will ruin other people's day in parks and patios with huge clouds of skunk weed.

I'm planning on growing a bit for some weekend consumption, when I have friends over and such. But even then I'm going to be aware of the neighbours and make sure I'm not stinking up the area.

Common sense will hopefully prevail.

And once it's legal I would also love to see a mass amnesty and pardoning of all Canadians for pot possession crimes.
 

bazokajoe

Well-known member
Nov 6, 2010
9,260
7,204
113
Common sense will never prevail.Peoples sense of entitlement will prevail.Drunk driving is proof of that.
 

wigglee

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2010
9,819
1,603
113
Places like Canna and CC are associated with organised crime and do not have successful government lobbies or political influences like big Pharma. As a result orders from levels of government higher than at the municipal level are being given to eradicate and grind into the dust illegal pot shops coast to coast. The illegal pot shops will most likely not be given local business licences by the look of things.
and government is disorganized crime
 

TeeJay

Well-known member
Jun 20, 2011
8,052
731
113
west gta
I have one nearby me. And a lot more sketchy characters in the area now. People begging for change. And some who can't wait to get home and spark up right there on the street.

I don't have an issue with pot but I do with idiocy. They need to be shut down and it all placed under controls until people can treat it responsibly.
.
These idiots are the reason Liberals & NDP dominate Toronto politics
Special interest groups have you vastly outnumbered
 

TeeJay

Well-known member
Jun 20, 2011
8,052
731
113
west gta
Cigarettes can be smoked almost anywhere outside.
Unless you have been living under a rock this past decade smoking is so restricted now as to be laughable
Most buildings have tiny zones, some even hidden, where smokers are supposed to cram in to do the deed

Nearly everywhere else in city from bus shelters to patios is ticketable
 

MattRoxx

Call me anti-fascist
Nov 13, 2011
6,753
2
0
I get around.
That's one thing I'm interested in seeing. Consumption of alcohol in public is illegal. Cigarettes can be smoked almost anywhere outside. Where will weed fall?

I also hope people realize that employers won't take any more kindly to showing up high than showing up drunk. That Bay St. guy smoking on the way home is one thing. They typical 4:20 then going back to work is another.
Pot has been available to everyone for decades. Society will not collapse.
And there are many edibles - gummy bears , popcorn, soft drinks, candy bars, can be consumed inconspicuously I've used a Toko vape pen in many places without being noticed.

http://herbaldispatch.com/product/vape-pen-toko/
 

MattRoxx

Call me anti-fascist
Nov 13, 2011
6,753
2
0
I get around.
This is entertaining although it's not a peer reviewed study and more like the old, "4 out of 5 smokers agree" advertising.

New Survey Says Marijuana Users Have Higher Incomes And Are More Outgoing
They're also pretty happy.

The stereotype of pot users as lethargic couch potatoes might not be as true as many think.

A new study conducted by BDS Analytics, a cannabis marketing research firm, suggests that users of the drug are some of society's happiest and most successful people.

The study divided people into three categories: marijuana users, acceptors (those who didn't use it but would be open to trying), and rejectors (those who never tried pot and would not want to).

Those in California had higher average household incomes (US$93,800) than acceptors ($72,800) and rejectors ($75,900), and are also more likely to have master's degrees. Meanwhile, pot users in Colorado are more likely to have full-time employment.

The study surveyed 2,000 adults, 21 years old and up, from California and Colorado, two of the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana, reported Civilized. At least 1,200 of respondents consumed marijuana in the past six months.

The survey also suggests that marijuana users are slightly happier with their lives, with five out of 10 consumers in Colorado agreeing that they are more satisfied with their current lives than their lives a year ago, while four out of 10 acceptors and rejectors believed the same.

According to Linda Gilbert, BDS's head of consumer research, the study refutes the classic "stoner" stereotype — 64 per cent of California pot users are parents, compared to 60 per cent of acceptors and 55 per cent of rejectors.

"Cannabis consumers are far removed from the caricatures historically used to describe them," she said in a press release.
Users in both states are also a lot more likely to enjoy going outside, with 50 per cent of users in Colorado and 56 per cent of users in California agreeing that they enjoy the outdoors, compared with 36 and 26 per cent of rejectors, respectively.

As well, 36 per cent of Colorado consumers say they're social, as opposed to 21 per cent of acceptors and 28 per cent of rejectors.

Similar results were reflected in a survey of 10,000 cannabis users conducted by Eaze, a company that facilitates the delivery of medical marijuana. It found its users were educated and financially secure.

It also noted that parents who use medical pot are often turning to the drug instead of opioids to treat chronic illnesses and pain, Refinery29 reported.

While the debate about cannabis legalization and the drug's safety are still ongoing, the study is a sign that stigma surrounding marijuana is fading away.
 

MattRoxx

Call me anti-fascist
Nov 13, 2011
6,753
2
0
I get around.
Such a waste of time. Just easy work for the police to go after such low-hanging fruit instead of investigating real crimes.
Was all this done primarily for police to grab some free pot for themselves. This article concerns the Cannabis Culture raids but I expect the same results for Canna Clinic.

Majority of charges laid in Canada’s largest marijuana dispensary raid will not go to trialhttp://globalnews.ca/news/3579939/toronto-marijuana-raid-charges-withdrawn/

The majority of criminal charges laid in the single largest police raid on marijuana dispensaries in Canadian history will not go to trial, the Public Prosecution Service of Canada has revealed. Of the 90 individuals who were facing more than 180 charges in Toronto police’s May 26, 2016 Project Claudia raids of 43 dispensaries, 45 of those cases have been withdrawn or stayed and a further 27 have been settled through peace bonds — meaning the charges will not appear on the accused’s criminal records.

The data, first revealed by VICE News Canada, showed seven of the cases will go to trial in Superior Court, two will face trial in provincial court, four do not have a trial date set, three individuals have pleaded guilty and been sentenced, one is wanted on a bench warrant and the court lost jurisdiction in two cases.
Toronto police spokesman Mark Pugash told Global News Thursday that although the majority of the cases won’t see the inside of a courtroom, many of the accused had forfeited significant amounts of money and marijuana products seized by police in the raids. He said that showed the profitability of the “current illegal cannabis dispensary environment.”

“We know dispensaries are selling large amounts of cannabis, they’re generating large amounts of money,” Pugash said. “We have no idea where the dispensaries are buying their cannabis … which leads to, at the very least, the possibility that they’re buying it from organized crime. But we don’t know because they won’t tell us.”
LOL nice effort by the cops! "They won't tell us, so there's no way to find out".

Pugash said dispensaries also pose a risk to public safety, as the businesses have been the targets of “violent armed robberies” in the past, possibly because perpetrators believed there was a copious amount of marijuana and money inside.
Raids are not conducted to protect dispensaries from being robbed. More complete bullshit from Pugash.
Toronto lawyer Paul Lewin, who represented many of the accused along with several other lawyers, called the raids “a horrible use of very scarce police resources and court judicial resources” that only serve to push the market “further underground.”

“To say they don’t care about it, they walked away from it — I don’t think they have much of a legal choice in the matter,” he said.

“What choice did they have but to walk away from it especially when the Crown is offering to drop all the charges? But legally it would be difficult to get it back and I’d say if they’re thriving, there’s a reason why a medical dispensary is thriving and that’s because the government system is no good, it’s broken.”

Toronto Mayor John Tory said during a press conference Thursday that by previously “urging” Toronto police to crack down on the dispensaries, his “objective” was not to see anybody go to jail but to maintain “peace” in the city...
“Our homicide unit is solving homicides, our sex crimes unit is charging people with sex crimes of various sorts, our financial crimes unit is working very effectively — and so we make decisions about priorities and resources the same way as the prosecution service.”

Lewin said he’s hopeful that more cases will be withdrawn in the future, adding he could not imagine a less harmful crime.

“It’s the height of recklessness on the part of the authorities — John Tory for pushing this, Justin Trudeau for not having a plan, the Toronto police for sprinting forward with this knuckleheaded plan when the consequences are potentially so serious for these young people,” he said.

“Either something is criminal or it’s not criminal, and if it is it should be prosecuted.”
What should be criminal is comparing homicide and sex crimes to the victimless activity of buying/selling cannabis products.
Also it's hilarious for Tory to complain about Trudeau not having a plan while touting a 'height of recklessness' Scarborough subway plan that is incomplete, full of misinformation, and makes no financial or ridership sense at all.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts