You want me to ask a former klansman his opinion a black issues?Don't ask me, ask David Duke.
How often do you follow guys like him?
You want me to ask a former klansman his opinion a black issues?Don't ask me, ask David Duke.
What he's saying is that their is a legitimate cause for the "segregation", (if that's the word you want to call it).Wait wait wait. You mean to tell me the definition of segregation is only when blacks are excluded by whites???? That is it? There is no way that any other group of people can be or feel segregated?
Is that what you are saying?????
No, I asked a very valid question. Don't tell me what I am doing. You don't knowWhat he's saying is that their is a legitimate cause for the "segregation", (if that's the word you want to call it).
You purposely pretend to not understand there is a cause for this event, because to acknowledge it would work against your agenda.
This is how I responded to fuji's racism,...you should read it also.What he's saying is that their is a legitimate cause for the "segregation", (if that's the word you want to call it).
You purposely pretend to not understand there is a cause for this event, because to acknowledge it would work against your agenda.
LOL.. Sad but true.Actually I would think fat people would face the highest discrimination. Now if you are fat and ugly that is a double whammy.
Why single out white parents. I know many many Hindu, Muslim, Chinese, Jewish, Korean, Japanese, and on and on who don't want their kids marrying someone from a different race/religion. Its true that blacks are especially targeted, and interesting enough whites inlaws are more tolerated/accepted.Unfortunately some people - like business owners, police, parents of white daughters for example - haven't got the "past is the past" memo, and make life shit for minorities. So once they get over their superiority complexes and ignorance, then we start working on real equality.
Jessica glad to have you join these discussions. You are going to find that whenever you challenge some people's views they automatically assume that you have an agenda.No, I asked a very valid question. Don't tell me what I am doing. You don't know
In this case, some feel there is "cause". Which I would honestly agree that blacks do have a high drop out rate for whatever reason so for these individuals, this is a big deal and should be celebrated.
However, that does not meant that a separate black only graduation ceremony in addition to the general one, is the appropriate way to celebrate that achievement.
As for Fuji's statement, he is implying that the only way segregation work is if it is whites against blacks. That closes the door to segregation of males from females, of abled-body from physically disabled, christians from muslims or jews, etc. So before you say I am doing anything, stop assuming and ask. That is what I was doing. Asking him for clarification. Not pretending at all thanks.
These kids are graduates not students first of all. Are you saying that there are 50,000 graduates per year?They probably shouldn't do this, but then again, what's the big deal?
U of T, what, has about 50,000 students. And here are 80 students celebrating whatever they are celebrating.
This is almost like 1% of 1% of all the students.
How can 1% of 1% be a black and white issue? How can this be an issue at all with such a low number.
Unless of course, the low number means RACISM.
This is the part where people will defend their interests.
Like hell do we want to see affirmative action quotas for university spots. You can imagine the dissatisfaction over that already.
Maybe segregated schools are the answer, who knows where this is going. But say no to more quotas.
We keep hearing about modern day discrimination but never get any examples without a history lesson.These kids are graduates not students first of all. Are you saying that there are 50,000 graduates per year?
This is wrong on so many levels, but that's okay, let them play the victim role because that's all they and many others here are doing. Poor me! Get over it. We all have the same opportunities in this country.
Its all around you, but you are probably oblivious to it.We keep hearing about modern day discrimination but never get any examples without a history lesson.
There's a huge, real difference between the oppressor and the oppressed. It matters.Wait wait wait. You mean to tell me the definition of segregation is only when blacks are excluded by whites???? That is it? There is no way that any other group of people can be or feel segregated?
Is that what you are saying?????
See the thread on color brave and an alternative to color blindness.Then there is no answer. Promoting racial identity is just creating more intolerance, more hatred, and more misunderstanding. You can't overcome racism by focusing on the superficial divisions. You can only overcome racism by dismissing them as exactly that.
That is not answering my question. That actually has nothing to do with my question. I mean I get there is a difference and agree it is real but still doesn't answer the question. So I will try again.There's a huge, real difference between the oppressor and the oppressed. It matters.
Every race has one or more designated slur, we are all in the same ball park inIts all around you, but you are probably oblivious to it.
Its there but we have come a long ways.
I remember the first time I heard my relative use the term "niggeritis" casually in a sentence at thanksgiving dinner, and my sweetest aunt saying " i jewed him down".
When an oppressor uses segregation to limit opportunities for the oppressed. Whites using segregation to exclude blacks is one example of that, I wouldn't call it the ONLY example.That is not answering my question. That actually has nothing to do with my question. I mean I get there is a difference and agree it is real but still doesn't answer the question. So I will try again.
Are you saying that the only way segregation can happen is if it is whites against blacks?
Pretty easy question I think.
If you have personal issue with a poster, just tell it to him straight to his face how it is. But don't twist this event to fit your narrative, Both of you.No, I asked a very valid question. Don't tell me what I am doing. You don't know
In this case, some feel there is "cause". Which I would honestly agree that blacks do have a high drop out rate for whatever reason so for these individuals, this is a big deal and should be celebrated.
However, that does not meant that a separate black only graduation ceremony in addition to the general one, is the appropriate way to celebrate that achievement.
As for Fuji's statement, he is implying that the only way segregation work is if it is whites against blacks. That closes the door to segregation of males from females, of abled-body from physically disabled, christians from muslims or jews, etc. So before you say I am doing anything, stop assuming and ask. That is what I was doing. Asking him for clarification. Not pretending at all thanks.
You need to decide whether you have a problem with the event or with Fuji.This is how I responded to fuji's racism,...you should read it also.
"We all know you hate Caucasians fuji,...but you must learn to stop living in the past.
Just what the hell do you call it when there is forced separation based solely on race,...
Just what the hell do you call it when there is forced separation based solely on sex,...
Just what the hell do you call it when there is forced separation based solely on age,...
,..."the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart".
If you need help coming up with the term,...please let me know."
Thank you for the correction.When an oppressor uses segregation to limit opportunities for the oppressed. Whites using segregation to exclude blacks is one example of that,I wouldn't call it the ONLY example.
Since blacks are not the oppressor in this case there's no problem with their graduation ceremony.
If on the other hand whites did the same thing that would raise questions about whether it was oppression, since the excluded party is the target of prejudice.
If you have personal issue with a poster, just tell it to him straight to his face how it is. But don't twist this event to fit your narrative, Both of you.
They presented the idea and reasoning to the school, and the school thought it was just.
And like I said earlier, you guys are creating fake argument unrelated to the event and what it's for. This event has nothing to do with segregation at all. If you want to celebrate, I'm sure you'd be welcomed.