That's their problem not ours. But, they do have countless "brave (your word)" suicide bombers.
Don't diss the Canadian Military
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And you think your opinion is worth $.00000000000001, lol. Sorry, you have a much over valued view of what you have to say. It means absolutely nothing. You call a soldier a "coward" and a "joke" for doing something that he was tasked to do. He was following orders given to him and he succeeded but in your eyes he is a coward and a joke. Like I said, look in the mirror and what you will see is a loser who has no idea what he is saying.
Soldiers were given an order and completed their mission. What else were they supposed to do???????? Oh yea, sit on their ass sucking their thumb like you do!!!!!
5 posts about sucking thumbs & sitting on ass at a job they dislike?
I think someone is projecting
lol and the FACT that you find it so DIFFICULT to justify the sniper position is an answer in and of itself
The entire dispute was started by your two comments that somehow when I asked you to justify sent you off into a tirade of personal attacks and random opinions lol
Since you have the attention span of a squirrel:
1- How is sniping a person "better" than other means of warfare (your example was bombing, mine was arresting a terrorist who was going to do something in western country instead of summary execution in his own country)
2- How is being a sniper 2+ miles away from danger in any way "brave" (you linked a site that talked about WW2, Nam, and airstrikes, none of which are applicable to ISIS, I call sniper a coward position same as drone operator)
Actually speaking of drones; you do realize they make the entire sniper position pointless and irrelevant anyways right?
And since you have the intelligence of the squirrel who tried to cross a busy road but was unfortunately squashed by a vehicle, lol (referring to your intelligence not the dead squirrel):
1. You are suggesting that we send someone into a foreign enemy territory and "arrest" the person who has been responsible for the deaths, directly and/or directly, of innocent individuals throughout the world. The fact that this person has committed such crimes, their right to live has been forfeited in my opinion. Tell you what though, since you believe that is how it should be handled, volunteer to be the person to go to enemy territory and on behalf of his enemies, place him under arrest and bring him back to where he can be judged fairly. At least if you do that, the whole world will know who Teejay is and what a buffoon he was. And I have used the term "was" appropriately.
2. Just something that was said in the article I provided. Seems like a logical opinion:
*I am going annonymous because I am a sniper and I do not want to violate my country’s OPSEC.
The short answer to your question is no.
We are by no means ‘safe’. Often sniper teams are sent ahead of the main force to elimimate key personnel, this puts us away from any assistance or logistics a normal rifleman will have access to.
In some instances(depending on your army’s doctrine/tactics) we are required to go behind enemy lines to eliminate high value targets(HVTs) for example an enemy commander.
If a rifleman in a rifle battalion were to become wounded, he would be given almost immediate care by a Platoon medic and then quickly evacuated by the extensive logistics system to the rear areas. For us, if we were to be wounded, it would mean that we would have to go through enemy territory to be evacuated via helicopter(unlikely since they have better things to do and our air force’s limited number of aircraft) or to link up with friendly lines which itself poses another set of problems.
Talk about the attention span of a squirrel, now you bring up drones when the topic is sniping. If there was ever a way to eliminate enemies in a cowardly way, that would be through the use of drones but coming from you, it is not a surprising that you would suggest using drones. You brought it up not me, lol.
Tee Jay.......
You don't win a war by standing toe to toe and playing fair. You win with superior strategy, tactics, training, and equipment.
And a sniper encases all four of those.
Cripes when English longbowman ruled the roost were they cowards? How about Roman Legions and their Squares?
What should everyone drop the guns, break out club and have at 'er?
That's some of the worst armchair general shit I've seen. No doubt you would be the first collaborating with an invasion force. That's just the kind of person you are.
You don't win a war by standing toe to toe and playing fair. You win with superior strategy, tactics, training, and equipment.
And a sniper encases all four of those.
Cripes when English longbowman ruled the roost were they cowards? How about Roman Legions and their Squares?
What should everyone drop the guns, break out club and have at 'er?
That's some of the worst armchair general shit I've seen. No doubt you would be the first collaborating with an invasion force. That's just the kind of person you are.
Wow "guilt by association" huh
You do understand that being a member of an organization does not equal a death sentence I hope?
Again *what* crimes?
Unless the terrorist in question boarded a plane, flew to a western country, killed (or attempted to kill) a person, then flew back they have not committed any crimes
And thats even assuming it is the right guy (again with a 2+ mile shot for all we know the army sniped the terrorists friend who was standing right next to him)
Your comments about police are incredibly stupid (eg sending Canadian police into a foreign country lol) the issue at hand is why army thinks they should be enforcing (attempting intimidation) on a criminal in another country
They are there illegally
Of course we are safe from some phantom invasion by an ISIS army
They have absolutely no means of landing an army on even a Euro country much less Canada
Only an idiot thinks every immigrant is a sleeper cell ready to rise up and overwhelm us
PS if this was a "key personnel" you have no doubt military would be crowing about how they knocked off this guy in ISIS by name
Instead the snipers were taking pot shots at (hopefully) low level scum, or worse at civilians
Again, cowards
Every one of them
Your reading comprehension appears to also be lacking
I think it was very clear I told you that sniping = coward AND that drone operator = coward
In both cases (which I said are equal) there is no way either should be called words like "brave" or "hero" or whatnot
Both are not real members of an army and both sit back from real action
What war? This is genocide by a strong military power against a group of civilians
A couple suicide bombers in western countries (actually has any of the suicide bombers ever originated from Iraq? I don't think so)
So our army takes this as an excuse to invade a foreign country?
Great examples of conquering nations
See both the English & Romans were not DEFENDING
They were EXPANDING
Um the war with Isis? You know, those fascist religious zealots who killed thousands by such great ways as burning them alive in cages?
Do you really want to see them with a piece of land and oil revenues as a base to expand as well. Actually get good weapons?
Oh and the longbow man mostly defended. The British didn't expand until they became a navel power much later.
The Romans were an empire. I agree with that. But considering the time period not a bad one compared to others.
Do you really want to see them with a piece of land and oil revenues as a base to expand as well. Actually get good weapons?
Oh and the longbow man mostly defended. The British didn't expand until they became a navel power much later.
The Romans were an empire. I agree with that. But considering the time period not a bad one compared to others.
"Don't diss the Canadian military"
Don't know where things currently stand, but when I was an officer most senior officers within our NATO allies would listen to junior Canadian officers. We don't have the funding... does the West Edmonton Mall still have more subs? ... but we have the training, intelligence and pride to be reckoned with.
The German storm troopers in WWII are self named after the name they gave to the fiercest opponents they faced in WWI .... the Canadians. We were new, unencumbered by old regimented ideals and basically threw platoons of Wendel Clark over the lines breaking all the rules... and we whooped ass. The Germans were terrified of those farm boys who didn't die for king and country, they died for the other boys in their pack.
Anyway, the Canadians have been fearless, innovative and mostly nice along the way, and on Canada 150 I'm holding up a glass of the best champagne I can find to toast the unsung bastards that have enabled me to live safely in the best country you can live in.
Don't know where things currently stand, but when I was an officer most senior officers within our NATO allies would listen to junior Canadian officers. We don't have the funding... does the West Edmonton Mall still have more subs? ... but we have the training, intelligence and pride to be reckoned with.
The German storm troopers in WWII are self named after the name they gave to the fiercest opponents they faced in WWI .... the Canadians. We were new, unencumbered by old regimented ideals and basically threw platoons of Wendel Clark over the lines breaking all the rules... and we whooped ass. The Germans were terrified of those farm boys who didn't die for king and country, they died for the other boys in their pack.
Anyway, the Canadians have been fearless, innovative and mostly nice along the way, and on Canada 150 I'm holding up a glass of the best champagne I can find to toast the unsung bastards that have enabled me to live safely in the best country you can live in.
TeeJay, TeeJay, TeeJay, nothing more to say to you. You have proven just how much of an idiot you are just trying to defend what you started. You are not worth any more time because frankly, you aren't worth it. For someone to take your stand on this just for the sake of wanting to argue......... Grow some balls. Walk up to some of the brave and honorable members of our military and tell them what you are spewing here. Who is the coward and joke now????? Yea, thought so.
TeeJay, the general public of those ISIS-infected countries, do NOT support them. They're just scared to shit in defying them. Local police forces have no control. Why do you think there is mass migration of refugees (apart from the wars against ISIS)?
Do not call a sniper a coward. It's a tactic of modern warfare. They go behind the lines in some cases, without much support. Snipers could hold down a group of soldiers, but when such a group finds a way to retaliate (whether in combination or using artillery, etc. etc.), the sniper knows he's dead meat.
Our army is not a joke. Just because we aren't the biggest or most powerful or most equipped, doesn't mean we can't make a difference in battle. What about Joint Task Force 2? Also, tell that to the many Canadian soldiers who have died in battle that our army is a joke.
Agree about Viet Nam.
Despite guerrilla tactics by the VC, the NVA was a true army using modern warfare tactics. After may years, NVA officers opined that they felt that the Americans were the invaders, so they fought relentlessly against them. But there were sites that could be bombed or shelled.
ISIS is not an organized, modern military unit. They know that if they were to do what Saddam Hussein did with his armies years ago, they'd get their asses kicked.
ISIS is not just interested in establishing sovereignty in a particular country, but spreading throughout the entire ME and around the globe. They would be happy to even use nuclear weapons to wipe out the Western World including Israel. They are exactly like cockroaches.
Snipers are employed by ISIS too.
Those suicide bombers may be brave, but they are brainwashed too. They aren't heroes in my book.
Modern, global nuclear warfare is like a video game, but it's no joke.
(Your posts here are getting silly now. Why don't you charge the enemy with your bayonet-armed Flintlock to prove your mettle?)
No they don't.
Drones can inflict collateral damage on civilians.
Snipers can target single targets, which can be effective, especially for key enemy personnel, or they can target a group and eliminate them through a process of attrition.
They know where the enemy might be (if they knew where they all were 100% of the time, we'd have more bombings or drone strikes take them out in groups).
Let's be clear. If friendly-Iraq forces can confirm that another guy not wearing army fatigues but who looks like a guerrilla warrior with a covered face and armed with an AK-47 or RPG that is in enemy territory, you can be sure that it's not our friend and a military target. Those are the ROE.
The difference between conducting a war and policing a civil society has already been clearly explained.
In answer to your first question; Once the shot has been taken the sniper switches from predator to prey. See my previous posts.
Reference drones; They have a limited endurance and are subject to degradation due to weather. A sniper team can sit and watch a target for weeks in any weather.
TeeJay, how much is ISIS paying you?
haha
This entire thread is about sniping and the guy who builds carries and buries an IED is a coward?
Your head is on backwards
