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Merkel: US and Britain no longer reliable partners

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http://www.firstpost.com/world/ange...ust-take-fate-into-its-own-hands-3490625.html

Sunday, May 28, 2017

Angela Merkel: US, Britain no longer reliable partners, Europe must take "fate into its own hands"

Frankfurt: Europe "must take its fate into its own hands" faced with a western alliance divided by Brexit and Donald Trump's presidency, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Sunday.

"The times in which we could completely depend on others are on the way out. I've experienced that in the last few days," Merkel told a crowd at an election rally in Munich, southern Germany.

"We Europeans truly have to take our fate into our own hands," she added.


While Germany and Europe would strive to remain on good terms with America and Britain, "we have to fight for our own destiny," Merkel went on.

Special emphasis was needed on warm relations between Berlin and newly-elected French President Emmanuel Macron, she said.

The chancellor had just returned from a G7 summit which wound up Saturday without a deal between the United States and the other six major advanced nations on upholding the 2015 Paris Climate Accords.

Merkel on Saturday labelled the result of the "six against one" discussion "very difficult, not to say very unsatisfactory".

The US president tweeted that he would reveal whether or not the US would stick to the global emissions deal — which he pledged to jettison on the campaign trail — only next week.

On a previous leg of his first trip abroad as president, Trump had repeated past criticism of NATO allies for failing to meet the defensive alliance's military spending commitment of 2.0 percent of GDP.

Trump also reportedly described German trade practices as "bad, very bad," in Brussels talks last week, complaining that Europe's largest economy sells too many cars to the US.

Sunday's event saw Merkel renew bonds with the Christian Social Union (CSU), Bavarian sister party to her own centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU), ahead of a parliamentary vote in September.

Polls show the chancellor, in power since 2005, on course to be re-elected for a fourth term.
 

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Regarding America, Merkel is pissed that Trump didn't bow down to the pressure from the other G-7 nations to commit to the Paris accord on climate change.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-paris-agreement-angela-merkel-a7759231.html

Trump has tweeted that he will announce his decision on the Paris accord this week.

Personally, I think the entire accord is just nuts, committing countries to harmful economic policies that will make no difference whatsoever to the future of the planet.

Most of the leaders, including Trudeau, are blowing hot air (http://www.torontosun.com/2017/04/26/why-trudeaus-climate-scheme-is-a-scam). Trump has actually been the most rational voice on this issue (his Chinese "hoax" comments notwithstanding).

Let's hope Trump holds firm and puts the kibosh on this nonsense.
 

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Trump is living in denial. He expected the rest of the G7 nations to follow the same path as his passionate supporters during the Presidential elections. The USA maybe the most powerful nation militarily, however with nations like China and even India offering potential for trade and growth coupled with accepting that climate change is a reality, the USA has the most to lose.

Glad that Trudeau is sticking to his guns. Good job Mr. Trudeau.
 

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Of course you could put Chancelor Merkel's remarks into the mouths of Prime Minister May or President Trump.

Further there is a certain irony to Chancelor Merkel's remarks for if she truly believes that Germany can no longer completely depend on others, presumably Germany will have to raise Defence Spending, which of course is one of the sources of the friction leading to the Chancelor's remarks.
 

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Of course you could put Chancelor Merkel's remarks into the mouths of Prime Minister May or President Trump.

Further there is a certain irony to Chancelor Merkel's remarks for if she truly believes that Germany can no longer completely depend on others, presumably Germany will have to raise Defence Spending, which of course is one of the sources of the friction leading to the Chancelor's remarks.
Time for them to move out of the basement.
 

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Regarding America, Merkel is pissed that Trump didn't bow down to the pressure from the other G-7 nations to commit to the Paris accord on climate change.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-paris-agreement-angela-merkel-a7759231.html

Trump has tweeted that he will announce his decision on the Paris accord this week.

Personally, I think the entire accord is just nuts, committing countries to harmful economic policies that will make no difference whatsoever to the future of the planet.

Most of the leaders, including Trudeau, are blowing hot air (http://www.torontosun.com/2017/04/26/why-trudeaus-climate-scheme-is-a-scam). Trump has actually been the most rational voice on this issue (his Chinese "hoax" comments notwithstanding).

Let's hope Trump holds firm and puts the kibosh on this nonsense.
To say that America is backing away from the Paris Accords is kind of a false narrative. President Obama knew he had no votes to ratify it as a treaty, so he kept it on the Executive side. Which makes is ripe for the next Administration to do what it wants with it. Similarly to Kyoto which went down 98-0 in the Senate. President Obama wanted to avoid the defeat and handed President Trump a winning issue with his voters, without bothering with the Congress. Any blame should be laid with Obama. If he followed the process required, Trump, most likely, would've put PA on the back burner in hope of gutting it down the road through spending cuts. Instead, he can get rid of it by the stroke of the pen.
 

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To say that America is backing away from the Paris Accords is kind of a false narrative. President Obama knew he had no votes to ratify it as a treaty, so he kept it on the Executive side. Which makes is ripe for the next Administration to do what it wants with it. Similarly to Kyoto which went down 98-0 in the Senate. President Obama wanted to avoid the defeat and handed President Trump a winning issue with his voters, without bothering with the Congress. Any blame should be laid with Obama. If he followed the process required, Trump, most likely, would've put PA on the back burner in hope of gutting it down the road through spending cuts. Instead, he can get rid of it by the stroke of the pen.
The best approach would be to send it to the Senate, where it is certain to be killed.
 
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