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Butler1000

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JTK, it's impossible to use analogies from the Third World to make your point. Societies there are different and more primitive. For instance, let me know how you feel about that dick in the Phillipines having alleged drug dealers killed on sight without a trial. I'm not seeing Canadian Values there either. But somehow he always gets left out of these threads.
Yup. He is an animal. Trying to deal with both an entrenched drug trade and now Muslim extremists who have taken a city apparently.

In other words he has no choice at this point but to use martial law tactics. I don't agree with the methods. But considering the alternative I can see why he is doing it.

Like you said. Primitive and backwards at times.
 

Conil

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First of all. I am not apologizing for Muslims. I don't condone what they did to the gays who were caned..
You always do, I have no doubt you're one. Anytime there is a terrorist attack you're after those who express anger and dismay over the deaths of these innocent people. Have some EMPATHY for these innocent children, Frank !!! Have some empathy please children have died, for no reason than hatred from a group of religious nuts. How can you be so stone hearted.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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http://www.canada.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=3155968

in 2008 there were over 400 violent anti gay hate crimes in canada
Okay, and how many attacks were there against ordinary, heterosexual individuals??
I'm guessing probably in the thousands. So if gays represent 10% of the population, I'd say the assaults against them are proportionally in line with the rest of the Canadian population.

So what was your point again??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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How many straight men were the victim of hate crimes because of their sexual orientation?

I bet zero
What difference does it make if someone is getting the shit kicked out of them in an ordinary barfight, or if someone is getting beat up because they are gay.

Very few assaults are done out of love, fuji. Its almost always done from a point of hatred, whether thats hate against gays or hate because someone doesnt like the colour of your sweater
 

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sorry i should clarify..... do you think a bombee goes around telling people outside his terror cell of his plans? it is not like he goes to the mosque or halaal butcher and drops that detail as a matter of fact to random muslims who then turn a blind eye.
And you know this how? Do you hang out at mosques or halal butcher shops? It seems like the epitome of naievete that members of a mosque would not notice the radicalization of a fellow member. Problem is they won't report it. They do turn a blind eye. Frankcastle, you really need to get your head out of the sand and see what is going on around you.
 

Mr Bret

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Admittedly, I have not read any of the numerous posts in this thread, so pardon me if I'm repeating something that's already been said.

My heart goes out to the families who lost members, or had close ones injured, young or older. A situation like this is horrible. What should have been a fun and memorable event for all the right reasons has been turned into a nightmare.
I also feel badly for the people who were there, but not necessarily physically injured. These people will have this awful memory with them for the rest of their lives. Who knows what kind of impact it may have on them. Again, probably worse for the younger ones.
And last, but not least, I feel a deep sense of compassion for Ariana Grande. I can't even begin to imagine how she feels about this. Even though it was definitely not her fault, she must have disturbing thoughts about how her concert turned into such a bitter experience for so many.
 

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This is the new face of terror, post 9/11. ISIS is the new Al-Qaeda and their plan is unfolding and has been for a number of years. Turning individuals into terrorists who are working from within our neighbourhoods, people who are a part of the social fabric, faceless individuals for the most part.

This event is truly tragic and shows us that nothing is safe for western society, which is exactly what they want, a constant feeling of uneasiness. Spy agencies and law enforcement are behind in the learning curve, as these events unfold and our knowledge of what they knew about these individuals or their cells is extremely limited to what they tell us.

The dead are dead, that is tragic for the loss of life to family and friends and their potential never realized, or the life they never got to live. There are other victims too, those who were injured, some badly, others not so, but the hidden scars they will carry will weigh heavier for some, as the psychological toll will be the worst on them. The dead are gone, the living have to live with what happened to them.
 

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They want to keep women down, they don't want women in a position of power...

The Manchester attack was an attack on Women and Girls

Mom, did you hear what happened in Manchester?” she asked me Monday night. Of course I had. Of course her older sister already had as well. But I’d wanted to keep the news from my younger daughter, aged 13, as long as I could. I’d wanted to wait till there was more information about the attack. And I also wanted to keep her a little more innocent a little bit longer. I was wrong, though, because what she needed that evening was exactly what she got — an outpouring of bewildered, reassuring messages among friends as the news trickled in.

It’s not easy, especially a few days after a teenage girl was mowed down in the heart of your own city, to make your daughter feel safe. Especially when she already has an anxiety disorder. That’s why Monday’s devastating attack in Manchester, at the end of an Ariana Grande concert, feels so sharply painful to so many of us right now. Because while the details are still coming in and there’s plenty that is unknown, what is always clear and real is how feared and hated the young girls of this world are.

In the earliest moments after the news of the explosion broke, social media responded as it always does — showing its best and worst sides. There was the usual knee-jerk racism, and there was an outstanding deluge of information sharing and offers of assistance. There was also yet another quick tutorial in how cruel and clueless people can be when discussing things that are not within their own narrow interests.

Most notable, there was the series of truly shocking tweets from the freelance journalist who snarked, “MULTIPLE CONFIRMED FATALITIES at Manchester Arena. The last time I listened to Ariana Grande I almost died too.” (He later deleted the remark and issued a half-hearted apology.) But there were also other comments that “Ariana Grande sucks anyway” and “Those kids should have been home with their parents.” Among the confirmed dead so far are an 18-year-old student and an 8-year-old child — both girls.

I know most of us understand that the Most Terrible, Ignorant People on Twitter don’t think like functioning, empathetic humans. I also know that the Manchester attack didn’t only affect girls. But much like the 2015 Lafayette, Louisiana, “Trainwreck” shooting that left two women dead, it’s impossible to ignore the targeted way that this was an act of violence at an event with a heavily female audience.

If you just happen to not be a girl or don’t live with girls, I want to tell you how truly spectacular they are and what they’re up against every goddamn day. I want to remind you what a refuge pop music is — music that speaks to you, without judgment. That makes you feel safe and joyful in a culture that seems to purposefully and ceaselessly try to tear you down. One that seeks to punish you for how you dress, that trivializes your interests and your icons, that obsesses over guarding your purity.

This past winter I took my younger daughter to see Ariana Grande at Madison Square Garden as her birthday present. We gathered in an arena full of mostly girls and their friends and their mothers. Girls of varying languages and races. Girls who, like mine, are managing often intense emotional, educational or physical challenges. Girls who just wanted to gather with one another and hear their idol sing to them, “Every little thing’s gonna be alright,” to cheer when a screen flashed the message “NOT ASKING FOR IT” and to dance around in pink balloons. To feel, for a little while, free. It was a powerful, glorious thing to witness.

Cowards love to target populations whose strength and dignity make them feel threatened — minorities, gay people, girls and women. Across the world right now, girls are gathering on playgrounds and in classrooms, trying to make sense of things that make no sense. Trying to reassure and comfort one another. Trying to not feel beaten and down and afraid. Like they do for one another most days. They are so, so strong, these girls — yes, these girls with their goofy Snapchat streaks and their mermaid hair and their willingness to love things unironically. Their courage and their grace would knock you out. And if you want to know what ferocious resilience looks like, take a look sometime at a young girl and her bestie, sharing a set of earbuds and dancing, in spite of it all.

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/23/manchester-was-an-attack-on-girls/
 

Insidious Von

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^^^This right here. A great example of how the rest of the Middles East should live, in peace. Great video, looks like I want to go there.
Sure, it's time for moderate Islam to take a stand against Wahhabi extremism, they shouldn't be allowed to dictate the terms is religious teaching. Oman's brand of Islam conforms to that of the Red Sea Arabs. The RSA are moderates and the keepers of the holy cities of Mecca and Medinah. They don't mix politics and religion nor advocate violence against infidels. Oman is much the same way, they are peacekeepers not fighters. It has oil but has developed a greater revenue source through shipping and tourism. The country is of critical importance to the USA and Europe, it's located on the south side of the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranians could never implement a full blockade, the Omanis would never go along with it.

 

happ

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Where are the muslims why are they so quite. You hate America right but you'll take all the benefits. You come here for the benefits then tell everyone how rotten we are.
 

IM469

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Where are the muslims why are they so quite.
It's not that they are silent, it's just that the bigots aren't listening.

You hate America right but you'll take all the benefits.
Including serving in the military giving up your children to defending your country

You come here for the benefits then tell everyone how rotten we are.
Interesting. They have their pro-Muslim bigots quoting our anti-Muslim bigots to promote a mutual hatred to appeal to the gullible among their associated supporters. Sort of brothers in intolerance.
 

mandrill

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And you know this how? Do you hang out at mosques or halal butcher shops? It seems like the epitome of naievete that members of a mosque would not notice the radicalization of a fellow member. Problem is they won't report it. They do turn a blind eye. Frankcastle, you really need to get your head out of the sand and see what is going on around you.
There was an article on this. They interviewed the guy's imam. The imam said he noticed that the guy was being radicalized, but then the guy suddenly stopped attending.

The Imam sounded decent and helpful. There was no info on whether he told the authorities that the killer was becoming radicalized. He clearly wouldn't discuss this openly with the press, as the imam would possibly be killed as a snitch. There are also ethical issues with ALL clergy in telling the police about info disclosed to them. That includes Christian clergy. "Priest-penitent privilege".
 

mandrill

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Having children blown up at concerts is just a normal part of living in a big city. Terrorism is something we need to just accept and get used to. The only way to fight it, is to be kind. #lovetrumpshate
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...l-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/230085
yeah, you're right. Let's go kill a few British Muslims in Manchester and murder their children in front of them. They will then become subservient and love us.
 

happ

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The liberal public service is celebrating alongside islamists. They both need each other to survive like firemen need fires.

Terrorist blows up your home kills your family liberals call u a bigot.
 

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yeah, you're right. Let's go kill a few British Muslims in Manchester and murder their children in front of them. They will then become subservient and love us.
Fill the UK with muslims, you have a muslim country. Fill Canada with 3rd world people, you have a 3rd world country. I say deport them all. Their culture and ideology are completely incompatible with ours. You cannot have a social-welfare state and massive 3rd world immigration, it will never work either. Burn all Quorans and bulldoze all mosques, the same as what muslim majority countries do to christians and jews. At least we would be deporting them instead of beheading them, which is what they do to christians and jews in their countries. Time to fight fire with fire and stop being a culture of impotent, cowardly worms scared to death of being called racist for telling the truth.
 
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