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Norwegian ruling party votes to ban circumcision for men under 16 years old

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Thanks for pointing that out. I've been walking around for over half a century oblivious to notion that the head of my penis needed protection [Sarcasm intended]. Sounds like a lot of stereotype and ignorance flying around.

It had nothing to do with religion, as I am neither a Muslim nor a Jew. It had to do with a risk of the foreskin becoming too tight in the future and needing a cirmumcision much later in life, combined with the advantages of less maintenance and easier hygiene. Lately, it was discovered that those without a foreskin were less likely to transmit or catch HIV.
Obviously you don't understand why a skin surface that is a lot less robust than what covers all of the rest of a males body,...would need additional protection.

As for a lot of ignorance flying around,...I have never once related my posts in this thread to either Muslims or Jews,...so you need to be a lot less ignorant,...and get your stereotyping kept in check.

Me,...I keep myself CLEAN,...and I don't look at that as too much "maintenance",...but I guess if one fucks trash without a condom,...I would be concerned too.

And as I understand you,...that's why the holy books require circumcision,...because man,... from day one,... had a problem with his fore skin being to tight, maybe from jacking off 5 times a day,...which I don't do either,...so again,...not a problem for me.

And HIV being more prevalent among gays,...not a issue for me either.
 
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Nice straw man comment.

Being circumcised is a safer sex measure, just as is wearing condoms, withdrawal, using a condom with anti STI gel, taking Truvada, STI prevention shots, engaging in lower risk sex activities, avoiding anal sex, having regular STI tests, taking meds to cure curable STI's when infected, having above average DNA resistance or immunity vs HIV, etc.

Of course nothing ever goes wrong, as long as you have a condom in your pocket. You're 100% safe from every known STI.
There's no way a pregnancy could result, either ; LOL
None of this supports infant circumcision.
 

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I speak from experience. Do you?
Your experience of being cut as an infant?

If so, let's just say your experience is limited.
 

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Thanks for pointing that out. I've been walking around for over half a century oblivious to notion that the head of my penis needed protection [Sarcasm intended]. Sounds like a lot of stereotype and ignorance flying around.

It had nothing to do with religion, as I am neither a Muslim nor a Jew. It had to do with a risk of the foreskin becoming too tight in the future and needing a cirmumcision much later in life, combined with the advantages of less maintenance and easier hygiene. Lately, it was discovered that those without a foreskin were less likely to transmit or catch HIV.
Guys who say its less maintenance have smelly balls and a stinky ass. Those require just as much maintenance, so while you are skipping your dick maintenance you're still not doing women any favors.
 

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Might not be true.....check out the link

http://www.cirp.org/library/history/
Even in pre-history where it all began in Africa, they do it as a passage to manhood or for a man to become a "warrior" rather than in infants. In this example, the foreskin must be buried in case a sorcerer wants to use it in witchcraft. The traditional practice has always been rooted in sorcery and religion, and anti-sex campaigns.


There are videos not on youtube but elsewhere online where you see, let's just say, other forms of circumcision where there is no question that it's mutilation. Entire swathes of skin up the shaft are cut and ripped off as a custom. Surreal self-inflicted brutality all in the name of ignorant traditions. http://www.bestgore.com/sexual-disaster/multiple-young-men-subject-genital-mutilation-africa/
 
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more bad news for the pro-male circumcision crowd

http://www.healio.com/infectious-di...e-the-risk-for-cancer-causing-hpv-study-shows

Circumcised men at twice the risk for cancer-causing HPV, study shows


Circumcised men should be as vigilant in preventing oncogenic HPV infection as those who are uncircumcised, new research suggests.

Circumcised participants in a study presented at the annual meeting of the American Urological Association were twice as likely as their uncircumcised counterparts to have either of two HPV strains associated with penile cancer, researchers said. Their findings are not consistent with previous research.


“Classically, circumcision has been shown to be protective against HPV infection and ... we’re not completely sure why, but there was a higher rate of these higher-risk HPV infections in men who are circumcised,” study researcher Mickey Daugherty, MD, a urology resident at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University, told Infectious Disease News.

Daugherty said the high proportion of men in the United States who are circumcised could account for the prevalence of HPV in that population. Nonetheless, he said, the results show that circumcision alone is not a preventive measure.

Daugherty and colleagues analyzed data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) from 2013 and 2014 on 1,520 men aged 18 to 59 years who had complete information on HPV infection and circumcision status.

The men provided penile swabs, which were tested for 37 HPV strains. The researchers stratified two strains of low-risk HPV linked to genital warts, HPV 6 and 11. They also stratified two strains of high-risk HPV linked to penile cancer, HPV 16 and 18.

Reflecting previous NHANES data, 45.2% of participants had some strain of genital HPV. In all, 2.9% were infected with one of the two low-risk strains, while 5.8% had one of the high-risk strains.

Most participants (77.8%) were circumcised. The higher risk for high-risk HPV was evident (OR = 2; P = .03), but there was no significant increase in risk for low-risk HPV in circumcised men (OR = 1.05; P = 0.9).

Despite the risk for circumcised men, only 7.8% of all participants — and 13.4% of those aged 18 to 29 years — received HPV vaccinations.

“This again brings up the importance of talking about vaccination,” Daugherty said. “Some of the HPV strains don’t necessarily cause major disease ... but at the same time, there are certain types of strains that you can prevent, and the big thing is people are unaware that the vaccine is available, and that this is something you can prevent.”

Although results have varied, earlier studies have generally shown that uncircumcised men are more likely to be infected with HPV than circumcised men. In a 2008 study published in The Journal of Infectious Diseases, researchers found that uncircumcised men were significantly more likely than those who were circumcised to be infected with a potentially cancer-causing HPV strain (adjusted OR = 2.51) and to be infected with several HPV strains (aOR = 3.56).

Previous NHANES data, meanwhile, have shown cause for alarm in all populations. Nearly half of 1,868 men had some kind of genital HPV strain. Another NHANES dataset showed that 25.1% of men and 20.4% of women in the U.S. have at least one high-risk genital HPV strain.

“Part of the issue is that HPV is much more prevalent than most people think or assume,” Daugherty said. “The concern is that most of them will not actually develop any sort of lesions from it, but at the same time, they could turn out to be infectious and infect others.” – by Joe Green

References:

Daugherty M, et al. Abstract MP11-03. Presented at: The Annual Meeting of the American Urological Association: May 14-16, 2017; Boston, Mass.

Han JJ, et al. Jama Oncol. 2017;doi:10.1001/jamaoncol.2016.6192.

National Center for Health Statistics. www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db280.pdf.

Hernandez BY, et al. J Infect Dis. 2008;doi:10.1086/528379.

Disclosure: The researchers report no relevant financial disclosures.
 

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My close friend was circumcised when he was 28 years old, he described very little discomfort post operation and of course didn't feel a thing during the procedure under anesthesia.

How ridiculous is it to hear on one end doctors will say the child feels no pain which is strange considering they always scream in agony, but then Johnsons will stress that a baby's skin is ultra sensitive and needs the most gentle of soaps and skin creams.
Maybe you haven't been around infants but they spend a whole lot of time screaming.
 

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How in the world is science and fact against the males natural anatomy? I guess God is a fuck up and has no idea how to put a human being together?
Appendix? Tonsils?


And sort of funny that you are arguing against a religious practice based on a religious view on god.
 

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Appendix? Tonsils?
Those are removed if they stop functioning properly.

Why do you think infant dicks should be treated differently?

I have a brother that got circumcised as a young teenager. His foreskin couldn't retract. On the other hand, I'm intact without issue.
 

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Maybe you haven't been around infants but they spend a whole lot of time screaming.
It is your contention that the agonizing screams made by infants are not due to the physical pain endured during the procedure? A rather obtuse line of thought.
 

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more bad news for the pro-male circumcision crowd

http://www.healio.com/infectious-di...e-the-risk-for-cancer-causing-hpv-study-shows

Circumcised men at twice the risk for cancer-causing HPV, study shows


Circumcised men should be as vigilant in preventing oncogenic HPV infection as those who are uncircumcised, new research suggests.

Circumcised participants in a study presented at the annual meeting of the American Urological Association were twice as likely as their uncircumcised counterparts to have either of two HPV strains associated with penile cancer, researchers said. Their findings are not consistent with previous research.


“Classically, circumcision has been shown to be protective against HPV infection and ... we’re not completely sure why, but there was a higher rate of these higher-risk HPV infections in men who are circumcised,” study researcher Mickey Daugherty, MD, a urology resident at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University, told Infectious Disease News.

Daugherty said the high proportion of men in the United States who are circumcised could account for the prevalence of HPV in that population. Nonetheless, he said, the results show that circumcision alone is not a preventive measure.

Daugherty and colleagues analyzed data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) from 2013 and 2014 on 1,520 men aged 18 to 59 years who had complete information on HPV infection and circumcision status.

The men provided penile swabs, which were tested for 37 HPV strains. The researchers stratified two strains of low-risk HPV linked to genital warts, HPV 6 and 11. They also stratified two strains of high-risk HPV linked to penile cancer, HPV 16 and 18.

Reflecting previous NHANES data, 45.2% of participants had some strain of genital HPV. In all, 2.9% were infected with one of the two low-risk strains, while 5.8% had one of the high-risk strains.

Most participants (77.8%) were circumcised. The higher risk for high-risk HPV was evident (OR = 2; P = .03), but there was no significant increase in risk for low-risk HPV in circumcised men (OR = 1.05; P = 0.9).

Despite the risk for circumcised men, only 7.8% of all participants — and 13.4% of those aged 18 to 29 years — received HPV vaccinations.

“This again brings up the importance of talking about vaccination,” Daugherty said. “Some of the HPV strains don’t necessarily cause major disease ... but at the same time, there are certain types of strains that you can prevent, and the big thing is people are unaware that the vaccine is available, and that this is something you can prevent.”

Although results have varied, earlier studies have generally shown that uncircumcised men are more likely to be infected with HPV than circumcised men. In a 2008 study published in The Journal of Infectious Diseases, researchers found that uncircumcised men were significantly more likely than those who were circumcised to be infected with a potentially cancer-causing HPV strain (adjusted OR = 2.51) and to be infected with several HPV strains (aOR = 3.56).

Previous NHANES data, meanwhile, have shown cause for alarm in all populations. Nearly half of 1,868 men had some kind of genital HPV strain. Another NHANES dataset showed that 25.1% of men and 20.4% of women in the U.S. have at least one high-risk genital HPV strain.

“Part of the issue is that HPV is much more prevalent than most people think or assume,” Daugherty said. “The concern is that most of them will not actually develop any sort of lesions from it, but at the same time, they could turn out to be infectious and infect others.” – by Joe Green

References:

Daugherty M, et al. Abstract MP11-03. Presented at: The Annual Meeting of the American Urological Association: May 14-16, 2017; Boston, Mass.

Han JJ, et al. Jama Oncol. 2017;doi:10.1001/jamaoncol.2016.6192.

National Center for Health Statistics. www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db280.pdf.

Hernandez BY, et al. J Infect Dis. 2008;doi:10.1086/528379.

Disclosure: The researchers report no relevant financial disclosures.
Considering that this study was done in America and the results are at odds with previous studies, I wonder if the studies done in Africa were dubious.

Whatever the case, when it's not medically necessary, circumcision is a cosmetic procedure for grown folks, not infants.
 

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If botulinum toxin is so dangerous then explain why it is used for cosmetic treatments?

if alcohol(ethanol) in drinks is a toxin, carcinogen and a hormone disruptor why is it celebrated? why are alcohol ads all over the place
 
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