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Jason Kenney's views on gay-straight alliances called 'extremist' by Alberta education minister

On Tuesday, the Alberta PC leader said parents should be told if their children join gay-straight alliances

Michelle Bellefontaine · CBC News

Alberta Education Minister David Eggen says Jason Kenney's position that parents should be notified if their children join a gay-straight alliance is an "extremist" view.

"Jason Kenney has shown, once you scratch the paint off a little bit, you find the extremist that he actually is," he said.

Kenney, the newly elected Alberta Progressive Conservative leader, made the comments during an editorial board meeting with Postmedia in Calgary on Tuesday.

"I do, however, think that parents have a right to know what's going on with their kids in the schools unless the parents are abusive," Kenney said.

"I don't think it's right to keep secrets from parents about challenges their kids are going through."

'Jason Kenney has shown, once you scratch the paint off a little bit, you find the extremist that he actually is.'
- David Eggen, Alberta education minister
But Eggen said a notification provision may "out" students who haven't yet revealed their sexual orientation to their parents.

"If the government is compelling people to out those students in a very compromised situation, then they are only serving to make the situation even worse," he said.

In the same Postmedia interview, Kenney said the NDP government was too aggressive in making religious schools follow the law, which compels all schools to allow gay-straight alliances when students ask for them.

Kenney says law should not strain family relationships

The PC leader would not make himself available for an interview Wednesday. Instead, he posted a statement on Facebook, where he said it was false to say he wants to force schools to out children.

He said informing parents would be inappropriate in some cases.

"I trust teachers, principals and school counsellors to exercise their judgment about such matters, and that there should be a presumption that most parents are loving and caring, seeking only what is best for their children," Kenney said in the Facebook post.

"The law should neither force schools to release information to parents, nor should it create an adversarial relationship between parents and their children."

Kenney said if he becomes premier, he would not repeal the law that compels schools to allow gay-straight alliances.

Eggen acknowledges that legislation doesn't have a provision to prevent schools from notifying parents.

The minister said he is looking at the law to see how it can be strengthened.

Both the Calgary Board of Education and Edmonton Public Schools say they don't notify parents when children join gay-straight alliances.

The leaders of two of Alberta's four opposition parties in the legislature criticized Kenney for his views.

"We feel that this stance by Mr. Kenney demonstrates his social conservative credentials and why he is not fit to lead Alberta," Alberta Party Leader Greg Clark said in a statement.

Alberta Liberal Leader David Swann said young people need to decide when they are ready to come out to their parents. He worries that parental notification will scare LGBT students away from GSAs, which can offer them support and a safe place to talk.

"It remains to be seen how far Mr. Kenney is willing to push this," Swann said. "The appearance is that he wants to interfere in what was a fairly clear statement of principle and practice for these GSAs.

"And we're quite clear, I think — most of us in the progressive community [feel] that this is appropriate, the way it is written, and it must be followed the way it is written to protect and ensure safe and inclusive schools."

The Official Opposition Wildrose Party, which is currently talking to representatives from Kenney's party about uniting the right, suggested the decision on notification should be left to individual school boards.

"When it comes to the issue of notification surrounding student participation in a voluntary club, including religious groups, anti-bullying clubs or GSAs, the law currently allows for local school boards to exercise their best judgement based on the circumstance on whether or not notification will be granted to parents," the party's education critic, Leela Aheer, said in a statement.

"Wildrose has always defended respecting local authority and decision making and trust the extraordinary level of care, love and compassion that boards, principals, teachers and counsellors have in fulfilling their mandate to provide safe and caring spaces for students."

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/edmonton/david-eggen-slams-jason-kenny-gsa-comments-1.4046248
 

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Perhaps the NDP feels it is "extremist," however, I doubt that a very large proportion of the parents of Alberta do.
 

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And now Kellie Leitch is in trouble for going to extremist meetings.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/kellie-leitch-meets-rise-canada
This organisation is no different from the neo-nazi National Front and National parties in the UK that terrorised immigrants of colour and called for their "repatriation" from the UK. Obviously, Kellie Leitch along with Kevin O'Leary are embroiled in a battle for the Trump style leadership. She wants to be controversial like Trump in order to gain the support of the alt right.
 

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I suppose to give Kenney a taste of what it would be like for kids who haven't come out yet, K. D. Lang tweeted:


"You're gay aren't you? @jkenney"
I'm fascinated by people who feel that they can say anything about someone else. But if the person they attack had said something less than half so impolitic to some friend of the attacker -- oh Holy Hannah!

This seemingly is because they feel that they are right, while the other persons perspective is just plain completely without legitimacy.
 

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I suppose to give Kenney a taste of what it would be like for kids who haven't come out yet, K. D. Lang tweeted:


"You're gay aren't you? @jkenney"
ROFLMAO.. that's funny.

However, K.D. is being ignorant, and the Education Minister (Eggen) shows the arrogance of some people at the school board/education ministry level.

This is a sensitive topic, and I can understand the arugment from the other side. However, a parents right to information about their children is more imporant than anything else. Why does this education minister think that the school or
a "gay straight alliance" is better equipped to deal with someone's child. What's next, schools won't tell parents when their kids are failing school?
 

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I think this is going to backfire. And people are quite tired of identity politics. They want politicians to discuss issues, not trade barbs as to who deserves to be shamed next.
 

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Perhaps the NDP feels it is "extremist," however, I doubt that a very large proportion of the parents of Alberta do.

You might be surprised. Having read the op, it strikes me that the "school board's best judgment" rule is wise. If I feel that way, I assume many others will in 2017 Canada.
 

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Perhaps the NDP feels it is "extremist," however, I doubt that a very large proportion of the parents of Alberta do.
Dear parent. We are calling to inform you that your child is not so vehemently homophobic that they were willing to discuss equality and perhaps even talk to a gay person.
 

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ROFLMAO.. that's funny.

However, K.D. is being ignorant,
Yes, unless KD was obviously joking with a friend, she shouldn't be sending a letter home any more that the schools.

However, a parents right to information about their children is more imporant than anything else. ...
What a hilarious thought. Schools should be informing parents of what their child is doing every second of the day?

And the informing of parents is clearly an intimidation tactic, children would be too worried that their parents would yell at them for being gay simply because they went to a meeting with their friend.

Just another case like sex ed where parents are showing exactly why schools are needed to educate kids.
 

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Yes, unless KD was obviously joking with a friend, she shouldn't be sending a letter home any more that the schools.



What a hilarious thought. Schools should be informing parents of what their child is doing every second of the day?

And the informing of parents is clearly an intimidation tactic, children would be too worried that their parents would yell at them for being gay simply because they went to a meeting with their friend.

Just another case like sex ed where parents are showing exactly why schools are needed to educate kids.
Thanks for the lesson on the nanny state. I love how you view "informing parents is clearly an intimidation tactic". Yep, that's a great statement.. Last thing we want to do is to inform the parents... parents? not that woman who carried her child in the womb for 9 months, and pushed that little sucker out of her vagina, not those people who fed the child, wiped shit of their ass, and snot off their nose until they could take care of them selves. Not those people who go to work every day to put food on the table, a roof over their heads, and clothes on their back. Nope, lets not inform those people, they don't have a FUCKING clue of what might be best for their child.

No, lets leave it to the education minister, and the school board.. they surely care more about a child than their parent. I won't even mention that here in Ontario our deputy education minister pleaded guilty to some child porn charges.

And the idiotic "schools should be informing parents of what their child is doing every second of the day comment"... yep, the potential that a child might be gay, is the same things as he farted in class today.

Yep, this is what passes for good thinking these days!!!!

Now go troll the Israel threads buddy, you probably have a bit better success starting fights there.
 

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Last thing we want to do is to inform the parents... parents? not that woman who carried her child in the womb for 9 months, and pushed that little sucker out of her vagina, not those people who fed the child, wiped shit of their ass, and snot off their nose until they could take care of them selves. Not those people who go to work every day to put food on the table, a roof over their heads, and clothes on their back. Nope, lets not inform those people, they don't have a FUCKING clue of what might be best for their child.
Good parents, especially good single moms are the heroes in our society. My friend's mom worked 2 jobs to raise her 4 kids as a single mom.
 

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Thanks for the lesson on the nanny state. I love how you view "informing parents is clearly an intimidation tactic". Yep, that's a great statement.. Last thing we want to do is to inform the parents... parents? not that woman who carried her child in the womb for 9 months, and pushed that little sucker out of her vagina, not those people who fed the child, wiped shit of their ass, and snot off their nose until they could take care of them selves. Not those people who go to work every day to put food on the table, a roof over their heads, and clothes on their back. Nope, lets not inform those people, they don't have a FUCKING clue of what might be best for their child.

No, lets leave it to the education minister, and the school board.. they surely care more about a child than their parent. I won't even mention that here in Ontario our deputy education minister pleaded guilty to some child porn charges.

And the idiotic "schools should be informing parents of what their child is doing every second of the day comment"... yep, the potential that a child might be gay, is the same things as he farted in class today.

Yep, this is what passes for good thinking these days!!!!

Now go troll the Israel threads buddy, you probably have a bit better success starting fights there.
Are you seriously saying schools should inform parents if their kids may be gay? That is pretty messed. On top of you wanting homosexuality to be treated the same as kids getting in trouble, you seem to miss that Gay Straight Alliances includes straight kids.
 

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Are you seriously saying schools should inform parents if their kids may be gay? That is pretty messed. On top of you wanting homosexuality to be treated the same as kids getting in trouble, you seem to miss that Gay Straight Alliances includes straight kids.
You seem to miss the point that this could be something extremely difficult for a child to go through and the best people to help them do that is their parents. You seem to miss the point that it is not a punishment to have your parents know you are struggling or you have a problem.

I am sorry that your childhood was so fucked up that you now have to overcompensate and you seem to think that most children need protection from their parents. I am sorry that you have such low opinion of parents that you think the first thing they do when their kids have a problem is scream and yell. I am sorry that you believe the first thing a parent will think is that their child is gay by joining the alliance.
I am sorry that you think that institutions know what is best for each person. I am sorry that we have stopped making rules/laws that are helpful to the majority of society.

We all have fucked up families and I have had cousins disowned because they came out. But the answer is not to keep hiding them in the closet.
 
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