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Michigan Senate Passes Bill Outlawing Oral And Anal Sex — Violators Will Face 15 Years In Prison***

March 28, 2017 10:58 am

Lansing, MI — During their session last week, the Michigan Senate passed a bill that effectively bans all forms of sodomy, anal, oral, gay and non-gay — making the acts punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

Surprisingly, Michigan is not alone in this archaic and oppressive legislation. Michigan, along with Idaho, Utah, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, all have laws on the books making consensual oral and anal sex, illegal, between all individuals. Montana, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, have only outlawed these acts if those engaged in them are gay.

The passage of this Bill is in spite of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2003 ruling in Lawrence v. Texas declaring sodomy bans unconstitutional.

In an attempt to skirt the legal boundaries of the SCOTUS ruling, Michigan encompasses these so-called ‘sex crimes’ into the legislation on bestiality — as if the two are related in any way whatsoever.

“A person who commits the abominable and detestable crime against nature either with mankind or with any animal is guilty of a felony,” reads SB 219.

And, if the state catches you committing this ‘felony,’ you will face ‘not more than 15 years’ in prison.

The draconian law outlawing human sodomy could have been easily altered by merely removing the phrase “either with mankind” from the bill, along with the other words struck in the citation above. But this was too difficult according to Senator Rick Jones.

In an interview with The New Civil Rights Movement, Senator Jones explained that including humans in the bestiality bill is the only way to protect the animals.

“The minute I cross that line and I start talking about the other stuff, I won’t even get another hearing. It’ll be done,” Jones said. “Nobody wants to touch it. I would rather not even bring up the topic, because I know what would happen. You’d get both sides screaming and you end up with a big fight that’s not needed because it’s unconstitutional.”

Jones added that he believes the only way to repeal the sodomy ban would be a bill striking all unconstitutional laws from the state’s books.

“But if you focus on it, people just go ballistic,” he said. “If we could put a bill in that said anything that’s unconstitutional be removed from the legal books of Michigan, that’s probably something I could vote for, but am I going to mess up this dog bill that everybody wants? No.”

SB 219 has been passed by the Michigan Senate, and will now go to the House for approval.

In Jones’ eyes, people having consensual oral and anal sex should face being locked in a cage for a decade and a half so that the state can protect animals. The statist logic is baffling, to say the least.

What the passage of this Senate Bill shows is that government is still so interested in monitoring and regulating the activities of consenting adults that they would lay waste to freedom to enforce their version of morality.

By: Matt Agorist From: The Free Thought Project

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the OP's source said:
What the passage of this Senate Bill shows is that government is still so interested in monitoring and regulating the activities of consenting adults that they would lay waste to freedom to enforce their version of morality.
Nothing in the article supports the claim. The bill deals with all manner of mistreatment and cruelty to animals, and as the sponsor says, he'd vote for taking anything unconstitutional out of Michigan's laws. SCotUS has already definitively ruled that consensual human sex cannot be limited, prohibited the way this law prohibits human animal sex.

The inept reporting lacks any details about how the archaic term "mankind" came to be in the Bill at all, nor does it quote anyone's intention to apply the Bill to "mankind". Without either, that conclusion I quoted is stuff that belongs in a poo-bag.

And take yours home please.
 

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Michigan has the quaint constitutional provision that when an existing statute is amended the bill making this amendment must set forth that statute in its entirety. Hence this bill Michigan SB219 had to set forth that statute including sections of the law dating back to 1846.

That states retain law which has been made moot by subsequent court rulings is not uncommon, relatively few states have gone through the process of recodifying their Criminal Code. *

So you are not going to be arrested and convicted in Michigan of Sodomy any more than some governor could say well our statutes call for segregated schools, so I'm going to implement the law.

As Oldjones posted in reality this is a bill to increase the penalties for abuse of animals including sexual abuse.


* Some privately published annotated volumes of state law will either have a note and/or redline/strikeout of such no longer valid law
 

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Yung dood is starting to replace others on here as the master of fake clickbait news.

He is one of those who thinks if it's written on the internet it must be true.
 

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Michigan has the quaint constitutional provision that when an existing statute is amended the bill making this amendment must set forth that statute in its entirety. Hence this bill Michigan SB219 had to set forth that statute including sections of the law dating back to 1846.

That states retain law which has been made moot by subsequent court rulings is not uncommon, relatively few states have gone through the process of recodifying their Criminal Code. *

So you are not going to be arrested and convicted in Michigan of Sodomy any more than some governor could say well our statutes call for segregated schools, so I'm going to implement the law.

As Oldjones posted in reality this is a bill to increase the penalties for abuse of animals including sexual abuse.


* Some privately published annotated volumes of state law will either have a note and/or redline/strikeout of such no longer valid law
Thanks for filling in the essential blank Aardvark. That 'quaint provision' explains why the sponsor was stuck with existing words he didn't like but couldn't see any practical way to remove without danger of derailing the whole thing.

I understand why no one puts up with the tedium of actually watching YouTube vids, but reading a pasted article takes mere seconds. Which doesn't explain the stupidity of the writer and their organization [if any]. An axe that wanted grinding?
 

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Thanks for filling in the essential blank Aardvark. That 'quaint provision' explains why the sponsor was stuck with existing words he didn't like but couldn't see any practical way to remove without danger of derailing the whole thing.
In fairness I rather like legislation presented in this way with strikeout and underline. The U.S. Congress does not present legislation in this way and to see what legislation will actually do, you have to do your own cut and paste between the legislation and U.S. Code.
 

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We don't either, and as the sponsor pointed out, the good intention of the method is undone by continuing to print and reprint sections long ago declared unconstitutional. We had a murder case go awry here because the judge cited the old, but now invalid, principle that a death during a crime is a murder. On the other hand, I can see the usefulness of having the original text presented along with the text currently in force. No wonder these matters wind up as the preserve of 'elites'.

And no wonder the occasional unschooled new broom feels compelled and empowered to sweep all away.
 

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Yung dood is starting to replace others on here as the master of fake clickbait news.

He is one of those who thinks if it's written on the internet it must be true.
The language of the bill is problematic but is supposed to be intended for bestiality.
"With mankind" is what's alarning civil rights groups.
 

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The language of the bill is problematic but is supposed to be intended for bestiality.
"With mankind" is what's alarning civil rights groups.
As already posted it is language from 1846. IF the upset folks want to pay the costs of recodifying the Michigan Criminal Code, Hell all of Michigan Compiled Laws to eliminate superseded law and archaic language, I'm reasonably sure that if the proposal was presented civilly the Michigan Legislature and Governor would be agreeable. However, I'm also fairly certain that the upset folks have no idea what the costs involved are likely to be.
 

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I think you're free to give all the blowjobs you want in Lansing.
I don't believe it's alarming anyone but undikscriminating media junkies and the sensationalist sort of <sarcasm>journalists</sarcasm> who pander to them. If those words were there when the Supremes said in a Texas case that anti-sodomy laws were unconstitutional, then they are as meaningless now as they became on that day.

Which any group with a combined IQ in the triple digits has figured out.
 
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