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Word is still coming out but Nunes on the Intel Committee just briefed the President on this incidental intelligence gathering on the Trump team that ended up on intelligence reports.

And that the information did NOT pass the threshold for what should go in. As well several maybe dozens of Trump Transition Team people were "unmasked" as a part of this in the reports wrongly. And that this information was passed around to numerous people.

Still breaking. But this is big. And according the Nunes the CIA and NSA are being forthcoming but the FBI is not. Not yet anyway.

Looking like people in intelligence took it upon themselves to release information they shouldn't have. And this goes directly against the spirit and possibly the law on domestic intelligence gathering.
 
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I suspect not everyone will share his opinion. Regardless of party affiliation, all politicians' views on this matter will be biased.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Word is still coming out but Nunes on the Intel Committee just briefed the President on this incidental intelligence gathering on the Trump team that ended up on intelligence reports.

And that the information did NOT pass the threshold for what should go in. As well several maybe dozens of Trump Transition Team people were "unmasked" as a part of this in the reports wrongly. And that this information was passed around to numerous people.

Still breaking. But this is big. And according the Nunes the CIA and NSA are being forthcoming but the FBI is not. Not yet anyway.

Looking like people in intelligence took it upon themselves to release information they shouldn't have. And this goes directly against the spirit and possibly the law on domestic intelligence gathering.
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Hey liar? Why don't you massage the truth even more. Nunes has not shared this info with anyone on the intel committee repub or dem. Apparently this information WAS masked and it was the opinion of Nunes that he could determine who they were talking about. You are a fucking liar plain and simple.
 
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Hey liar? Why don't you massage the truth even more. Nunes has not shared this info with anyone on the intel committee repub or dem. Apparently this information WAS masked and it was the opinion of Nunes that he could determine who they were talking about. You are a fucking liar plain and simple.
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The information was UNmasked, that is one of many issues.

Nunes on Trump's personal communcations
https://youtu.be/7HqU1aFNP8E
 
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All that's happened today is that Nunes has confirmed Trump and his team were NOT targeted by any wiretap, as wet have been saying all along. Trump lied about that and Nunes just confirmed that it was lie. Trump and his team were caught when they communicated with Russian agents who were lawfully targeted.

This is bad news for Trump since he repeatedly denied having contact with Russian agents and now we have definitive proof that he was lying and covering that up.

The FBI now says it has opened a CRIMINAL investigation into that.
 
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KBear said:
The information was UNmasked, that is one of many issues.

Nunes on Trump's personal communcations
https://youtu.be/7HqU1aFNP8E
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Well that's not what Schiff says. And as far as I know Schiff wasn't part of the trump transition team like Nunes was.

After briefing Trump at the White House later on Wednesday, Nunes told reporters the revealing of names "goes beyond" former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. Information released about Flynn's calls with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. contributed to his resignation last month.

Schiff said in his statement that "most of the names in the intercepted communications were in fact masked."

The congressmen both reiterated that they see no evidence of a physical wiretap at Trump Tower. Nunes said he did not know if any of the information he referenced was collected from inside the New York building.
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Butler1000 said:
Word is still coming out but Nunes on the Intel Committee just briefed the President on this incidental intelligence gathering on the Trump team that ended up on intelligence reports.

And that the information did NOT pass the threshold for what should go in. As well several maybe dozens of Trump Transition Team people were "unmasked" as a part of this in the reports wrongly. And that this information was passed around to numerous people.

Still breaking. But this is big. And according the Nunes the CIA and NSA are being forthcoming but the FBI is not. Not yet anyway.

Looking like people in intelligence took it upon themselves to release information they shouldn't have. And this goes directly against the spirit and possibly the law on domestic intelligence gathering.
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Nunes is a partisan politician who appears to have jumped chain of command to publicly discuss this material.

As I understand it, his point is that legal surveillance on foreigners picked up information on Trump transition team participants which was then inappropriately unmasked and inappropriately placed in intelligence reports. Nunes is vague as to what he considers "inappropriate" and gives no examples or even explanations. Apparently none of this stuff was authorized by Obama, none of it was part of the Russian investigation, it was all lawful surveillance on foreign nationals and the material was leaked to Nunes who has not sought to discuss it with the House Cmtee or the heads of the services.

However, he did choose to release it to the POTUS and discuss it with the media.

Now Nunes may have a valid point. And maybe we'll find out in due course. Or not. But until anyone finds out what the hell specifics he's fingering, it might also be partisan targeting and distorting of perfectly normal and appropriate intelligence reporting in order to try and create a distraction for Trump.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...english/ar-BByBAs2?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp
 
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Nunes is a partisan politician who appears to have jumped chain of command to publicly discuss this material.

As I understand it, his point is that legal surveillance on foreigners picked up information on Trump transition team participants which was then inappropriately unmasked and inappropriately placed in intelligence reports. Nunes is vague as to what he considers "inappropriate" and gives no examples or even explanations. Apparently none of this stuff was authorized by Obama, none of it was part of the Russian investigation, it was all lawful surveillance on foreign nationals and the material was leaked to Nunes who has not sought to discuss it with the House Cmtee or the heads of the services.

However, he did choose to release it to the POTUS and discuss it with the media.

Now Nunes may have a valid point. And maybe we'll find out in due course. Or not. But until anyone finds out what the hell specifics he's fingering, it might also be partisan targeting and distorting of perfectly normal and appropriate intelligence reporting in order to try and create a distraction for Trump.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...english/ar-BByBAs2?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp
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Whether he was surveilled isn't my beef, I sorta expect them to pick up on American's when they are listening in on foreign governments, however, my beef is when they unmasked an American citizens name who is protected under law by the constitution to his privacy and security by someone in the 3 big intel name depts. Either NSA, FBI, or CIA. The dickhead who took it upon himself to leak his name to the media is a criminal and they better find out and make an example out of him.
 
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Whether he was surveilled isn't my beef, I sorta expect them to pick up on American's when they are listening in on foreign governments, however, my beef is when they unmasked an American citizens name who is protected under law by the constitution to his privacy and security by someone in the 3 big intel name depts. Either NSA, FBI, or CIA. The dickhead who took it upon himself to leak his name to the media is a criminal and they better find out and make an example out of him.
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Oh is that the new talking point? Masked vs Unmasked? For fuck sakes you clowns have no integrity. I thought it was the illegal leaks which is all the right wanted to talk about? Leaks like what happened today with Nunes.
 
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Oh is that the new talking point? Masked vs Unmasked? For fuck sakes you clowns have no integrity. I thought it was the illegal leaks which is all the right wanted to talk about? Leaks like what happened today with Nunes.
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Those are the words used by the intelligence agencies at the hearing on CSPAN. Those are the actual 'proper' words that should be used. A masked name would be all blacked out, unmasked it's not blacked out! You should check it out, it's really interesting..Ill give you a preview.

Husband: "You slept with my wife!"
Comey: "There is no evidence of that."
Husband: "But I caught you in bed!"
Comey: "We didn't sleep."

Slippery comey. Just kidding. It was better than that.

Here - knock yourself out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRHk0UTPLQ

This fresh, young SMART congresswoman asks some of the better questions of the day to Comey. She got him to admit they didn't let the ODNI know about the investigation until March, when they started it in July. Check her out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlXXZQgh72Y
 
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Baller Time said:
Oh is that the new talking point? Masked vs Unmasked? For fuck sakes you clowns have no integrity. I thought it was the illegal leaks which is all the right wanted to talk about? Leaks like what happened today with Nunes.
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You're getting a bit hysterical now that the shoe is on the other foot. And this wasn't a leak. That's anonymous. He is taking full responsibility for discussing this.

That's called whistle blowing. And that's a good thing thing.
 
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SuperCharge said:
Whether he was surveilled isn't my beef, I sorta expect them to pick up on American's when they are listening in on foreign governments, however, my beef is when they unmasked an American citizens name who is protected under law by the constitution to his privacy and security by someone in the 3 big intel name depts. Either NSA, FBI, or CIA. The dickhead who took it upon himself to leak his name to the media is a criminal and they better find out and make an example out of him.
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Your beef should be with Trump, who lied to you when he says he and his campaign weren't talking to Russian agents.
 
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Your beef should be with Trump, who lied to you when he says he and his campaign weren't talking to Russian agents.
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Now you are expanding beyond even what the most partisan Dem has said. And any investigator.

At no time has anyone said Trump is under investigation. Just a few fired associates. All of whom were indeed fired when it appeared they did have a connection of some sort.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Now you are expanding beyond even what the most partisan Dem has said. And any investigator.

At no time has anyone said Trump is under investigation. Just a few fired associates. All of whom were indeed fired when it appeared they did have a connection of some sort.
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Comey: “I’ve been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”

But I'm talking about how Nunes just blew the lid off Trump's repeated lie that his campaign wasn't talking to Russian agents. Nunes confirmed the Russian connections aren't just limited to Flynn and Manafort but extends to additional people within the campaign.

While Trump was on TV telling everyone his campaign had no links to Russia, Comey was already investigating his extensive links to Russia.

Trump is covering something up. He's dirty.
 
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SuperCharge said:
Whether he was surveilled isn't my beef, I sorta expect them to pick up on American's when they are listening in on foreign governments, however, my beef is when they unmasked an American citizens name who is protected under law by the constitution to his privacy and security by someone in the 3 big intel name depts. Either NSA, FBI, or CIA. The dickhead who took it upon himself to leak his name to the media is a criminal and they better find out and make an example out of him.
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Until I hear some details and specifics about who, when, how and what Nunes is talking about and until the agencies have a chance to respond, I'm taking Nunes with a large grain of salt. Quite possible that his job is to run interference for DJT by claiming that bad things have been done and it turns out that he simply exaggerated, mis characterized and distorted entirely proper agency practices in order to provide a distracting sound bite.

If there is sloppy intelligence practice, heads should certainly roll. But so far, we just have some GOP pol's big talk.

We'll see what his colleagues on the House Intelligence Committee have to say about his disclosures.
 
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Adam Shiff basically just declared war on Nunes and publicly called him out for what he did earlier today. The next committee meeting should be a dusie!
 
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Butler1000 said:
You're getting a bit hysterical now that the shoe is on the other foot. And this wasn't a leak. That's anonymous. He is taking full responsibility for discussing this.

That's called whistle blowing. And that's a good thing thing.
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Not at all, in this case Nunes is releasing material publicly that was supposed to be secret, while at the same time refusing to brief the intel committee on this same info.
It was all to give Trump a bone, so Trump can complain that he was wiretapped, which of course is not at all what the info says.

But it doesn't matter, not if what CNN is reporting is correct.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/polit...may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html
 
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