Apparent Terrorist attack on the British Houses of Parliament
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Negative, if you are baptised as an infant, which is what the post was about. The Christian churches, at least the ones I am familiar with, holds that you must know about the religion before you can join, hence the religious education and Confirmation.
This is one area where the Christian Churches have it right.
Well it is true that you need to be educated in the faith. But Baptism is once for all.
The education includes that a baptized infant does not become a member of the Christian community before he/she confirmed the baptism at a later age.
Where did you get your Christian education? I remember you have many times questioned the religious education by the Danish Lutheran Church.
What you are stating was generally the way it was phrased particularly in the Anglican and State Lutheran traditions about fifty years ago - for instance you could never receive the Eucharist until after you had been confirmed. Since that time in both traditions it has been acknowledged that what this did was diminish the importance of Baptism and make it into a two phase process which both traditions acknowledge was not justifiable either historically or theologically.
The Roman Catholic Church is still pretty much in that two phase tradition (First Communion and all that), interestingly the Eastern Churches never adopted it at all.
The real reasons for the Church dogmas in this area are of course economic. It is good marketing practise to allow and encourage everybody to become Christian without a genetic requirement. That is why there are more Christians than Jesus.
Splitting hairs.
In this case the guy was born to a Christian family and was raised in a Christian household where they celebrated Christian holidays.
In other words subjective, depending on which specific denominations and cultures within the same denominations.
Wanted to be sure that this was posted
Here is precisely what is often said (including by me) is not often done enough in the Muslim Community. Hence I want to loudly point out this article with photographs of Muslim women standing hand-in-hand on Westminster Bridge in a show of solidarity with those killed and injured in Wednesday's terror attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-stand-solidarity-London-terror-victims.html
Here is precisely what is often said (including by me) is not often done enough in the Muslim Community. Hence I want to loudly point out this article with photographs of Muslim women standing hand-in-hand on Westminster Bridge in a show of solidarity with those killed and injured in Wednesday's terror attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-stand-solidarity-London-terror-victims.html
Its a thing of beauty when good people stand up for what is right. Its not right that these people have to do this, but its the world we live in.
After the tragedy in Quebec City, our local mosque held an open house. Turns out they Ahmadiyya Muslims and are nice peaceful people. So nice and peaceful that many Muslims don't consider them to be Muslims.
"Ahmadiyya adherents believe that Ahmad appeared in the likeness of Jesus, to end religious wars, condemn bloodshed and reinstitute morality, justice, and peace."
"However, in many Islamic countries the Ahmadis have been defined as heretics and non-Muslim and subjected to persecution and often systematic oppression.[SUP][20]"
"In 1974, Pakistan's parliament adopted a law declaring Ahmadis to be non-Muslims;[SUP][118][/SUP] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya[/SUP]
"Ahmadiyya adherents believe that Ahmad appeared in the likeness of Jesus, to end religious wars, condemn bloodshed and reinstitute morality, justice, and peace."
"However, in many Islamic countries the Ahmadis have been defined as heretics and non-Muslim and subjected to persecution and often systematic oppression.[SUP][20]"
"In 1974, Pakistan's parliament adopted a law declaring Ahmadis to be non-Muslims;[SUP][118][/SUP] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya[/SUP]
Actions speak louder than words
Muddassar Ahmed started a fund for the victims Muslims United for London they raised £18,000 in one day and £30,000 in three. Three quarters of the donations came from Muslims. As he said to ITV "I did it because sometimes condemnation is not enough. Because actions speak louder than words."
Bravo for Mr. Ahmed!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...se-30k-Westminster-terror-attack-victims.html
Muddassar Ahmed started a fund for the victims Muslims United for London they raised £18,000 in one day and £30,000 in three. Three quarters of the donations came from Muslims. As he said to ITV "I did it because sometimes condemnation is not enough. Because actions speak louder than words."
Bravo for Mr. Ahmed!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...se-30k-Westminster-terror-attack-victims.html
Yep,...good on him,...there are many more "good",... what ever the hell that means,...and intelligent Muslims around.
But Hair Doo's actions will NOT help with their initiatives,...quite the opposite actually.
FAST
No, there is no denying that Christianity is not based upon genetics. Period.You are not born a Christian.
It is not a grey area open to interpretation. Nobody (with the possible exception of Jesus himself) was ever born a Christian.
