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Ontario Senator and pastor fucked 16 yo girl...isn't it sexual assault?

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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...s-he-wont-resign-in-wake-of-ethics-probe.html

Isn't this considered rape? The guy was a pastor so he is in a position of influence. I thought in such situations it is considered sexual assault? In either case a shameless hypocrite.
He did say he was sorry (he got caught). Was drives me twice as crazy is that as a Pastor this hypocritical piece of crap was telling everyone else how to live their lives when obviously he is incapable of running his own.
 

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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...s-he-wont-resign-in-wake-of-ethics-probe.html

Isn't this considered rape? The guy was a pastor so he is in a position of influence. I thought in such situations it is considered sexual assault? In either case a shameless hypocrite.
You're right. Age of consent is 16, but in situations where one party can have power over another, it is 18.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/clp/faq.html

Just saw this fucker on the news saying he should still be able to continue on milking us taxpayers. What's to prevent him from doing it again if he gets away with it this time?

He should be kicked out, charged and lose his golden taxpayer paid pension.

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He did say he was sorry (he got caught). Was drives me twice as crazy is that as a Pastor this hypocritical piece of crap was telling everyone else how to live their lives when obviously he is incapable of running his own.
Sort of like Jesse Jackson helping Bill with his infidelity . Then getting caught himself . So dos I say not as I do thing .
 

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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...s-he-wont-resign-in-wake-of-ethics-probe.html

Isn't this considered rape? The guy was a pastor so he is in a position of influence. I thought in such situations it is considered sexual assault? In either case a shameless hypocrite.
Yes, but the girl didn't want her name to be made public, so she refused to cooperate with the police. Without her help, the police had no reasonable chance of convicting him, so they didn't charge him.
 

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where does it say she was 16? it said he fucked her once before she turned 18 and twice after.

the legal age of consent in canada is 16. apparently that is the age that we as a nation have agreed is when teenagers can decide for themselves who they want to fuck. there's no evidence he was in a position of power over her.

what is the moral failing here exactly? and what does this guy fucking someone well over the age of consent have anything to do with his ability to do his job as a senator?

there's 18 year old escorts on here fucking 50 year old guys everyday, and suddenly you guys are uncomfortable with it because a senator did it? wake up.
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This is from an earlier article about him https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...-senate-report-on-relationship-with-teen.html

A Pentecostal minister who was appointed to the Senate in 2010, Meredith was the focus of a Star investigation in 2015 over a two-year sexual relationship with a young woman that began in 2013, when she was 16 and he was 48. Ricard’s investigation found that Meredith violated “the highest standards of dignity” of the Canadian Senate when he “lured” the girl into a sexual relationship, despite how “vulnerable” she was due to her age.

The report as published first takes the reader through the challenges Ricard faced. Meredith objected to the probe, questioning whether Senate ethics rules covered the allegations, and saying whatever he did with the teen was on personal time. But Ricard determined that the code of conduct applies broadly and that a senator must uphold the highest standards in both public and private life.

The report describes how a meeting at a church function in 2013 led to a full-blown sexual relationship. At first, there were flirtatious chats. Then Meredith asked the teen to send naked or partially naked photos of herself. At times, they used Skype or Viber to have video sex. Meredith was either in his taxpayer-paid suite at the Chateau Laurier in Ottawa, in his church office at the GTA Faith Alliance north of Toronto, or in his home office in the Toronto area.

The report goes into great detail about the intimate relationship, stating that Meredith would masturbate while looking at the girl on a screen. As for their sexual play, the report says Meredith told her “this is what adults do.” During their two-year liason, she called him “uncle” or “daddy.” He called her “daughter,” which Meredith, when interviewed, told Ricard was a “running joke” between them. On one occasion, Meredith introduced her to his wife and daughter.

Early on in their relationship, he invited the teen to his hotel room and promised he would “only take off his socks,” the report says. That encounter ended up as just dinner at a restaurant. Later, she did visit his room. There, he would fondle her. His pants would be down, her top would be off. They had intercourse once before she turned 18 and twice after, the report states. She was a virgin when she met Meredith, and the report notes that Meredith, in a Viber message exchange, told her “no rush baby, no rush.”

Their liasons typically involved dinner, with intimate times at either his hotel room or her apartment. On one occasion, the report says, she returned to his Chateau Laurier room to collect some takeout food after a sexual encounter and Meredith flew into a rage — angry, he said, because somebody might see her. “I am a student and food means a great deal to me,” she told Meredith in a text.

The report notes that Meredith wanted Ricard to prepare two reports, private and public, leaving out most of the detail from the public report. Ricard determined that her report had to tell the full story because the “details are essential to understanding the narrative” and because of the “need to promote public confidence in the fact-finding process.”

While questioning him, the Senate officer told Meredith that Ms. M alleged the senator said he “could introduce (her) to people in the future.” Meredith said he did not recall this, but told Ricard he is always looking out for “how we can help to promote our young people.”
They met in church. He was a pastor in a position of leadership. The fact he seduced this young girl is grossly disgusting.

Now he's claiming he's being treated unfairly due to the colour of his skin.
 

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Was he her Pastor?

If so I'd agree with you, otherwise not.

The morality of it is quite a different matter.


I have to disagree with you on this. If the other party knows you are a pastor, then just being a pastor, is in itself, a position of authority., as a pastor is considered a community leader. If this happened while he was a senator as well, then I would say that it's an abuse of power and while he's not technically a rapist, he should be booted from the senate for his improprieties.
 

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Churches need to stop being tax-exempt. Its one of the biggest scams around
 

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A pastor isn't a figure of authority, he has little power over her life compared to a cop or a teacher. The worst thing he's done is being a cheating husband and hypocrite but thankfully for many terb members there aren't any laws against that.
 

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A pastor isn't a figure of authority, he has little power over her life compared to a cop or a teacher. The worst thing he's done is being a cheating husband and hypocrite but thankfully for many terb members there aren't any laws against that.
have you ever went to church?
 

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Churches need to stop being tax-exempt. Its one of the biggest scams around
I think a good compromise would be to tax them ALL,...but let them write off any none religious charitable expenditures.

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