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basketcase

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Again, you accuse them of 'planning' (more mind reading), 'celebrating' and 'calling' for violence....
Sorry but Hamas themselves are making those statements, not me. And sorry but a Hamas suicide bomber on a bus and Hamas gunmen who shot up a restaurant in the past year sure as hell are "physical acts of terrorism or violence." And as usual, you choose to minimize Hamas terrorism based on lies about Israel.

You do realize that Canada lists Hamas a a terrorist entity right?
 

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Sorry but Hamas themselves are making those statements, not me. And sorry but a Hamas suicide bomber on a bus and Hamas gunmen who shot up a restaurant in the past year sure as hell are "physical acts of terrorism or violence." And as usual, you choose to minimize Hamas terrorism based on lies about Israel.

You do realize that Canada lists Hamas a a terrorist entity right?
Now you're just retreating to your typical Palestinian 'hate mongering'.

You are the one that continues to claim that Hamas is more 'evil' yet when challenged to provide evidence the only crimes you could come up with were their use of language.
That's a total failure, and shows that your claims about Hamas are based almost entirely on your racist bias.

Just as your claims that I 'lied' about Israel for linking to just the most recent news report. Your making Trump look better informed and more reality based then you.

Israel apartheid is at present a much worse crime then anything that Hamas is doing, you just proved it.
Thanks.
 

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Now you're just retreating to your typical Palestinian 'hate mongering'.....
It what world is agreeing with Canada that Hamas is a terrorist entity considered "hate mongering"?

But yes, I hate that Hamas is committed to terrorism and ethnic cleansing.
 

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Oh look at you once again ignoring Hamas and instead lying about Israel.

Did you miss the part where Canada considers Hamas a terrorist entity?
Oh look at you once again ignoring Israeli crimes to try to talk about what nasty things Hamas has to say.
Do you really support Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid?
 

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Oh look at you once again ignoring Israeli crimes to try to talk about what nasty things Hamas has to say.
Do you really support Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid?
Israel hasn't committed crimes, you're just lying. Meanwhile Hamas at still terrorists.
 

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Oh look at you once again ignoring Israeli crimes to try to talk about what nasty things Hamas has to say.
Do you really support Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid?
Sorry but trying to justify Hamas' continued commitment to terrorism by citing absolute bullshit about Israel is just your typical tactics.

Did you miss the part where Canada considers Hamas a terrorist entity?
 

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Sorry but trying to justify Hamas' continued commitment to terrorism by citing absolute bullshit about Israel is just your typical tactics.

Did you miss the part where Canada considers Hamas a terrorist entity?
It took decades for Canada to boycott South Africa, it will take time.
Israel has a much stronger lobby then South Africa did.

But with people like you screaming about how evil Hamas is for all their nasty talk while ignoring the daily crimes Israel commits in the apartheid state, maybe it won't be that long.

Whats happening now is that Trump's pressure on the UN is resulting in some new pushback.
Ibrahim Fraihat
Trump's administration and Israeli Apartheid will bankrupt UN morality
UN official Khalaf said she stood by findings that Israel has established an Apartheid [AFP]
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/c...d-israeli-apartheid-will-bankrupt-un-morality
 

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It took decades for Canada to boycott South Africa, it will take time....
That fact that you want Canada to de-list Hamas as a terrorist entity shows pretty clearly who you are. Your support for terrorists is disgusting.
 

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That fact that you want Canada to de-list Hamas as a terrorist entity shows pretty clearly who you are. Your support for terrorists is disgusting.
Typical old man, desperate post.
You rely on outright lying about my position in straw man arguments as you have no real case against taking both Israel and Hamas to the ICC for terrorism, apartheid or war crimes.

Lets get back to the charges of apartheid.

50 years ago, in 1967, Israel's leader warned about apartheid if they didn't end the occupation.
Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, put the issue this way in a radio address: "Israel... better rid itself of the territories and their Arab population as soon as possible. If it did not Israel would soon become an apartheid state."
40 years ago:
Or consider what Yitzhak Rabin, two-time prime minister of Israel, told a TV journalist back in 1976: "I don’t think it’s possible to contain over the long term, if we don’t want to get to apartheid, a million and a half [more] Arabs inside a Jewish state." And more definitively from a legal perspective, Michael Ben-Yair, a former Israeli attorney general, concluded "we established a apartheid regime in the occupied territories."
In a previously unpublicized recording of a 1976 interview, Israel’s fifth prime minister Yitzhak Rabin can be heard calling the still-nascent West Bank settlement movement “comparable to a cancer,” and warning that Israel risked becoming an “apartheid” state if it annexed and absorbed the West Bank’s Arab population.

10 years ago:
In 2008, former cabinet minister Yossi Sarid wrote, “What acts like apartheid, is run like apartheid and harasses like apartheid, is not a duck - it is apartheid.”
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.707441
"If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Haaretz Wednesday, the day the Annapolis conference ended in an agreement to try to reach a Mideast peace settlement by the end of 2008.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/olmert-to-haaretz-two-state-solution-or-israel-is-done-for-1.234201
So why are you surprised that 50 years after the first warning Israel has been declared apartheid?
 

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Typical old man, desperate post....
I know. How dare I stoop to calling you on your pro-Hamas bullshit.

And the saddest thing is you keep trying to blame Israel because Hamas are violent terrorists who call for ethnic cleansing of Jews.
 

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Typical old man, desperate post.
You rely on outright lying about my position in straw man arguments as you have no real case against taking both Israel and Hamas to the ICC for terrorism, apartheid or war crimes.

Lets get back to the charges of apartheid.

50 years ago, in 1967, Israel's leader warned about apartheid if they didn't end the occupation.


40 years ago:





10 years ago:




So why are you surprised that 50 years after the first warning Israel has been declared apartheid?
Israel has NOT been declared apartheid other than by lying clowns like you and Falk. It's not. On the other hand Hamas indeed is on the terror watch list due to their constant targeting of civilians.
 

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I know. How dare I stoop to calling you on your pro-Hamas bullshit.

And the saddest thing is you keep trying to blame Israel because Hamas are violent terrorists who call for ethnic cleansing of Jews.
Again, while Israel is in the process of slowly ethnically cleansing Israel, your complaint lies only Hamas talking about it.
You excuse real ethnic cleansing while screaming loudly about Hamas 'discussing' it.

All that just to avoid noting that the warnings about apartheid have been happening for half a century from Israeli leaders, yet you still seem surprised that Israel has ended up as apartheid.
 

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basketcase

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Amazing how you call the news 'lies'....
No, I call your bullshit claims about ethnic cleansing and apartheid lies. But I understand that you need to lie because otherwise all you're left with is pretending Hamas aren't a terrorist entity.



And yes, it's sad that for 100 years, Palestinian leaders have refused to live peacefully alongside Jews.
 

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No, I call your bullshit claims about ethnic cleansing and apartheid lies.
And yet your only defence is attacking the messenger, not the charges.

Here you go, do you support the Arab league or Israel/US in this latest initiative.
The heads of Arab League states - attending a one-day summit beside the Dead Sea in Jordan - did not publicly refer to Trump or his statements on Wednesday, but they stressed their own continued backing for an independent Palestinian state.

**********h Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, Qatar's Emir, said: "We are required to jointly and seriously act to put pressure on the international community and the [UN] Security Council to reject the inception of an apartheid system in the 21st century."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...artheid-system-palestine-170329173919757.html

The Arab League wants to end the apartheid rule with a last ditch attempt to put the two state solution in place. Israel and the US are presently not interested in peace talks or even slowing down settlements that have killed the two state solution. You claim to be for the two state solution but have only ever criticized settlements for 'giving Palestinians something to complain about' and not for stealing land, ethnic cleansing or killing the two state solution.

Do you stand with the Arab League or Israel on this initiative?
 
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