Trump's war isn't with the media.........

Trump is a pathological liar.

Every new article written about Trump deserves its own thread. :deadhorse:

The frightening thing is that this behaviour, just like most of his odd behaviour, is directly following Putin's playbook step by step. Frightening.

fentonkat said:

The frightening thing is that this behaviour, just like most of his odd behaviour, is directly following Putin's playbook step by step. Frightening.

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And his administration's propaganda directly follows Joseph Goebbels playbook:
- Leverage a perceived emergency and appeal directly to people's fears (jobs crisis, crime, terrorism),
- Create a common easily identifiable enemy (Mexicans, Muslims),
- Propose a simple solution to the emergency (build a wall, deportations, registry, protectionism),
- Create a slogan designed to appeal to patriotism and ethnic superiority (Make America Great again),
- Quickly discredit and villainize Intellectuals and bypass them in your messaging (MSM, civil rights leaders (lewis), scientists),
- Accuse your opposition of FUD and lies ("fake news") while you use FUD and lies,
- Aggressively attack political opponents and encourage your followers to use violence to silence them. Make the attacks personal.

Promo said:

And his administration's propaganda directly follows Joseph Goebbels playbook:
- Leverage a perceived emergency and appeal directly to people's fears (jobs crisis, crime, terrorism),
- Create a common easily identifiable enemy (Mexicans, Muslims),
- Propose a simple solution to the emergency (build a wall, deportations, registry, protectionism),
- Create a slogan designed to appeal to patriotism and ethnic superiority (Make America Great again),
- Quickly discredit and villainize Intellectuals and bypass them in your messaging (MSM, civil rights leaders (lewis), scientists),
- Accuse your opposition of FUD and lies ("fake news") while you use FUD and lies,
- Aggressively attack political opponents and encourage your followers to use violence to silence them. Make the attacks personal.

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LA la la.....Godwin's Law.....la la la.

The public is at war with the Keeping up with the Kardashians. Please Mr. Donald Trump remove this reality show just the way you helped by removing Rosie O Donnell off the air. It would be greatly appreciated.

Butler1000 said:

LA la la.....Godwin's Law.....la la la.

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Another troll post. Can you prove any of the content incorrect?

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it": George Santayana

Promo said:

And his administration's propaganda directly follows Joseph Goebbels playbook:
- Leverage a perceived emergency and appeal directly to people's fears (jobs crisis, crime, terrorism),
- Create a common easily identifiable enemy (Mexicans, Muslims),
- Propose a simple solution to the emergency (build a wall, deportations, registry, protectionism),
- Create a slogan designed to appeal to patriotism and ethnic superiority (Make America Great again),
- Quickly discredit and villainize Intellectuals and bypass them in your messaging (MSM, civil rights leaders (lewis), scientists),
- Accuse your opposition of FUD and lies ("fake news") while you use FUD and lies,
- Aggressively attack political opponents and encourage your followers to use violence to silence them. Make the attacks personal.

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-job crisis and terrorism are not "perceived emergencies". They're real problems.
-He has never identified Mexicans and Muslims as enemies. He identified radicals and illegals as problematic.
-His solutions are more than the three you mentioned
-that is your 'perception' of his slogan. To most it's economic and cultural.
-MSM and Lewis are not intellectuals. The first are sensationalists and the latter is an opportunist
-His opposition is demonstratively guilty of fake news, lies
-He has not encouraged violence to silence opponents. But he and his followers have certainly been targets.

Loosely said:

The public is at war with the Keeping up with the Kardashians. Please Mr. Donald Trump remove this reality show just the way you helped by removing Rosie O Donnell off the air. It would be greatly appreciated.

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haha true

Smallcock said:

-job crisis and terrorism are not "perceived emergencies". They're real problems.
-He has never identified Mexicans and Muslims as enemies. He identified radicals and illegals as problematic.
-His solutions are more than the three you mentioned
-that is your 'perception' of his slogan. To most it's economic and cultural.
-MSM and Lewis are not intellectuals. The first are sensationalists and the latter is an opportunist
-His opposition is demonstratively guilty of fake news, lies
-He has not encouraged violence to silence opponents. But he and his followers have certainly been targets.

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Sorry Smallcock, at this point I don't take any of your EXTREME-left rhetoric seriously. Every one of my points can be supported from Trump's own words and are available on YouTube videos.

Although Butler yahoos, he's thoughtful, intelligent and fun to play with.

Butler1000 said:

LA la la.....Godwin's Law.....la la la.

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La la la … Godwin's law simply notes that Hitler will eventually be cited in any ongoing argument. How insightful of you to notice the moment. Corollary: The other party will inevitably cite Godwin's Law, as if something significant had just happened.

And the sun rose today,

… la la la.

Two deplorable forces don't make a right. The media is god awful these days. So, apparently, are American presidents.

Promo said:

Another troll post. Can you prove any of the content incorrect?

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it": George Santayana

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In theory much of what he posted can also be attributed to the Clinton Campaign.

But essentially it's all vague comparisons compared to the monsters that the nazis were. I don't personally believe that you can remotely compare anyone to them. Especially either Dem or the GoP.

Was it an especially nasty and dirty campaign. Yup. Did both sides engage in it yup. There was no high moral ground here.

What happened in Germany in 1933 really can't happen in the USA the gov't system wouldn't allow it, the checks and balances built in would prevent it. And an armed population would in the end prevail.

Anyone who would compare an election that saw the peaceful transition of power(note that is from Obama and Clinton) to anything resembling that horrendous moment in history has no knowledge of the circumstances that made it possible.

It's nothing more than demonizing a political opponent when a legit argument is impossible to convey.

Feel free to come up with one if you get the chance.

oldjones said:

La la la … Godwin's law simply notes that Hitler will eventually be cited in any ongoing argument. How insightful of you to notice the moment. Corollary: The other party will inevitably cite Godwin's Law, as if something significant had just happened.

And the sun rose today,

… la la la.

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I believe it also means that who ever goes with the nazi argument or name calling has run out of reasoned arguments. And so has lost the argument.

Smallcock said:

-job crisis and terrorism are not "perceived emergencies". They're real problems.
-He has never identified Mexicans and Muslims as enemies. He identified radicals and illegals as problematic.
-His solutions are more than the three you mentioned
-that is your 'perception' of his slogan. To most it's economic and cultural.
-MSM and Lewis are not intellectuals. The first are sensationalists and the latter is an opportunist
-His opposition is demonstratively guilty of fake news, lies
-He has not encouraged violence to silence opponents. But he and his followers have certainly been targets.

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When are you going to admit that Trump is a pathological liar? Almost all his public statements are flat out untrue, particularly those aggrandizing himself.

He is trying to build a phony cult of personality by attributing to himself successes that are fake. Same thing Kim Jong-un, Hugo Chavez, and every other tin pot dictator does.

What's hilarious is how gullible people like you are, lapping up whatever you are fed.

Butler1000 said:

In theory much of what he posted can also be attributed to the Clinton Campaign.

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I disagree and that was a transparent attempt at deflection. Clinton didn't have to do that as Trump was making a buffoon of himself, all she did was prod him to keep him going. Did you watch the first debate?? Her problem was she wasn't able to counter his manipulation.

Butler1000 said:

But essentially it's all vague comparisons compared to the monsters that the nazis were. I don't personally believe that you can remotely compare anyone to them. Especially either Dem or the GoP.

Was it an especially nasty and dirty campaign. Yup. Did both sides engage in it yup. There was no high moral ground here.

What happened in Germany in 1933 really can't happen in the USA the gov't system wouldn't allow it, the checks and balances built in would prevent it. And an armed population would in the end prevail.

Anyone who would compare an election that saw the peaceful transition of power(note that is from Obama and Clinton) to anything resembling that horrendous moment in history has no knowledge of the circumstances that made it possible.

It's nothing more than demonizing a political opponent when a legit argument is impossible to convey.

Feel free to come up with one if you get the chance.

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You clearly misunderstood what I said. Likely because you tend to take everything to an extreme (like most far-right and left leaning people do).

NONE of my comments were about nazi Germany or hitler or anything that happened in the 30s. Nor did i in any way state that what happened in germany could happen in the States. LOL, technically you were the first person to drop the hilter/Nazi comparison la la la.

What I said was "(Trump) administration's propaganda directly follows Joseph Goebbels playbook". Goebbels was a master of public opinion manipulation and several world leaders have used similar tactics since because the tactics work. I described Goebbels approach in post #6 and drew comparisons to Trump's tactics. This is no different than someone who follows Buffet's investment playbook or Steve Job's marketing playbook (and it seems most CEOs are following Job's marketing style these days).

Today Trump put a muzzle on every employee in the EPA as well as 3 other federal departments. No-one is allowed to speak to the press or post to web pages, twitter, etc. He's keeping the Carrier deal secret and has now stated he will never release his taxes. Is this a way that the "leader of the free world" and/or a open and transparent government should be communicating with the public?

This is a dangerous precedent. Normally we count on a free press to keep the politicians in check, but trump is putting allot of effort into discrediting the press and excluding them from information sources. So Butler, who does that leave to protect us that have have the needed skill, time and access to get to the truth of what's going on? Why are you not alarmed? I know when Harper put a muzzle on Environment Canada I screamed murder and I voted Harper and for the most part have conservative values (although I believe strongly in taking care of my fellow man in bad times).

Butler1000 said:

I believe it also means that who ever goes with the nazi argument or name calling has run out of reasoned arguments. And so has lost the argument.

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And I believe anyone who counters with babble has run out of reasoned arguments. And so has lost the argument.

You call Fuji a name several times a day almost every day! Look in the mirror buddy.