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kono

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I know this is a heated topic. But I think people are over reacting. Things are not going to be as bad as they think. I'm not a Trump supporter but you have to use some level of common sense at some point. For intense, look at the women's right protest going on around the world. Ok, in all seriousness what is he going to do? Honestly? Is he going to pass bill's to take away women's rights? Of course not!
The REAL problems I see are his cabinet picks. Can you say conflict of interest. But you would think these people being under the microscope would think twice before making a decision of conflict.
Closing there doors to some degree to the world, is an issue. But I think this could open up more opportunities for Canada. We might see more business coming from China, Mexico and other parts of the world.
Then you have his diarrhea mouth ranting on Twitter. Not the vest quality to have in a leader. How much should we read into his tweets? I wouldn't take him literally.
Anyways, I just think people are really losing there shit and making a mountain out of a mole. The sun will come up tomorrow (Edit) The sun will come out on Wednesday according to the forecast.
 

Butler1000

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They weren't paying attention because the media told them Hillary's election was in the bag. Now he is in they are pissed.

In other words complacency as much as anything won it for Trump. His supporter were just hungrier.
 

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There was probably always crybabies but now they put themselves on the internet for everyone else to see. This is the first big election that the millennials did not get the result they wanted. Lack of maturity leads them to think the world is ending. Heck some of the people look like they're in their 40's. You would think they could deal with this.

There is such polarization now that people actually think the other side is evil. People need to experience a few more elections and then they will realize that most of what is said during a campaign is utter bullshit
 

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After the first 100 days we will have a better idea of things. There is a very great deal of hypocrisy going on: the Tea Party was vociferously criticized but now the the Women's March is lauded, even thought the President hasn't even been in office for a full day.

Further the television talking heads who have assets of tens of millions of dollars paraphrasing former President Obama's infamous 'bitter clingers" remark, pontificating as to how middle America is beyond saving so why try. So you don't think the President's plans will work at least say 'I hope they will work, even though I doubt they will.'
 

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The lack of knowledge of how government functions and the powers of the different branches of government is disappointing. People seem to equate the presidency with being king, when in fact the republic was formed in reaction to that and in a manner to prevent that.
 

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Make America Strong Again, a lot of people liked the sound of that. Especially the lower classes. The middle and upper classes never thought Trump had a chance to win, many did not bother to even come out to vote. Even one year ago very few people thought that Trump even had a chance to be nominated the republican candidate to run for president.

Hillary's mistake was to try to show how unfit her opponent was rather than to convince the American public how qualified she was to take office.
 

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Oh, for sure some people are overreacting. But it's still a serious problem for a child to be leading the most powerful nation on Earth. While the presidency isn't everything, he has a great deal of power. I mean, just what he says has the power to cost or benefit wall street billions of dollars, send investors scurrying away from other countries, and piss off other countries who don't have the same checks on power.
 

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Hillary's mistake was to try to show how unfit her opponent was rather than to convince the American public how qualified she was to take office.
Which was a next to impossible task for her. For while she and her supporters felt she was well qualified, huge segments of the electorate found her to be totally untrustworthy and to have a most unappealing personality. Even her supposed positives dredged up all sorts of unpleasantness for those who were not her die hard supporters.

It was I believe most would agree a race to the bottom in that race President Trump being a fresh face and having a message that I will turn things around was for many people the lesser of two evils.
 
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K Douglas

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After the first 100 days we will have a better idea of things. There is a very great deal of hypocrisy going on: the Tea Party was vociferously criticized but now the the Women's March is lauded, even thought the President hasn't even been in office for a full day.

Further the television talking heads who have assets of tens of millions of dollars paraphrasing former President Obama's infamous 'bitter clingers" remark, pontificating as to how middle America is beyond saving so why try. So you don't think the President's plans will work at least say 'I hope they will work, even though I doubt they will.'
The Tea Party were branded as racist and extremist from the start with the liberal left maintaining it's creation was as a result of the election of a Black POTUS. They ignore the fact that the movement was founded as a repudiation of big government period - including the TARP bailout signed into law by GWB in October 2008. It just coincided with the beginning of Obama presidency and with his policies of continued big government they escalated their protests.
 

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I largely agree with the OP in that to a large degree, the President can only do so much on his own. I also strongly believe that he has become the leader of the Republican party largely as a matter of convenience. He needed a party to be legitimate and the Dems already had one.

I also agree that some of his choices for cabinet are inspired. I also think some of them may well be train-wrecks. They can be replaced.

However, he's used to being a tin-pot dictator in his organization and is surrounding himself with ass-kissers with really questionable ethics. Kellyanne Conway is widely respected as a brilliant pollster and I credit her with getting Trump elected. She also has a great ability to tell bold-faced lies to the American public in such a convincing way. So many of his former adversaries and Presidential Wannabees who cursed his very existence, are now lining up to help him run the world. I'd like to think that there motivation is to guide him, but I suspect it's more that they are just doing whatever they can to remain "relevant" after being dispatched with the grace of a bowling pin in a strike.

His influence MAY have devastating effects on everything from womens' rights to the environment, but I think we need to give him a chance. He still needs to get stuff through two houses and even though his party dominates both, I really don't think every Republican Congressman and Senator think of him as "their" President. I think that they think he's the ill-informed ferret wearing shit-gibbon that I do, but I am willing to give him a try... like I have any choice...

As for his protectionist outlook, I don't agree that it might be good for Canada. The US is by far, our largest customer. If he starts slapping tariffs on cars coming out of Mexico, he pretty much has to do it on cars coming out of Canada too.

Regardless of what happens. it's going to be interesting~
 

wazup

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I know this is a heated topic. But I think people are over reacting. Things are not going to be as bad as they think. I'm not a Trump supporter but you have to use some level of common sense at some point. For intense, look at the women's right protest going on around the world. Ok, in all seriousness what is he going to do? Honestly? Is he going to pass bill's to take away women's rights? Of course not!
The REAL problems I see are his cabinet picks. Can you say conflict of interest. But you would think these people being under the microscope would think twice before making a decision of conflict.
Closing there doors to some degree to the world, is an issue. But I think this could open up more opportunities for Canada. We might see more business coming from China, Mexico and other parts of the world.
Then you have his diarrhea mouth ranting on Twitter. Not the vest quality to have in a leader. How much should we read into his tweets? I wouldn't take him literally.
Anyways, I just think people are really losing there shit and making a mountain out of a mole. The sun will come up tomorrow (Edit) The sun will come out on Wednesday according to the forecast.
You got there wrong but lose right.
 
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They're hysterical
These people don't know what real suffering is. It's unbelievable how far they have gone. Now I know why they need safe spaces, they can't handle the real world. I had my eyes opened up this year.
 

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Hillary's mistake was to try to show how unfit her opponent was rather than to convince the American public how qualified she was to take office.
Impossible for her to do, the cat (ahem) is out of the bag about who she is.
The DNC have no one to blame but themselves for trying to jam her through.
 

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Remember the anti war protests during Bush's reign? Were were those protesters during Obama's tenure? Obama had been at war everyday of his two terms.
 

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For intense, look at the women's right protest going on around the world. Ok, in all seriousness what is he going to do? Honestly? Is he going to pass bill's to take away women's rights? Of course not!
He's going to appoint Supreme Court judges to take away their rights. Specifically, to overturn Roe v Wade. They are also rightly concerned about the social impact is a President who brags about committing sexual assault.

The other thing he can and seems to want to do is start a number of economically destructive trade wars. He can do that unilaterally.

Most other things will require Congress to go along with him which will moderate what he can actually do.
 

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He's going to appoint Supreme Court judges to take away their rights. Specifically, to overturn Roe v Wade. They are also rightly concerned about the social impact is a President who brags about committing sexual assault.
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During Trump inauguration speech he said he's all for a women's right to choose. As I said, no rights are being taken away.
 

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During Trump inauguration speech he said he's all for a women's right to choose. As I said, no rights are being taken away.
He said no such thing. I just scanned the text of his speech again and I see no such statement at all. It's not there.

During the campaign he pledged to nominate only pro life justices and he provided the list from which he would choose. Many Christian pro lifers who otherwise despise Trump voted for him just for that reason. There's an open seat and his nominee to fill it is going to be pro life.

So yes he is working to take away the right to an abortion.
 
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