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basketcase

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You said they were Israeli peace plans but you just conceded they were American. That leaves you with the so called "Olmert Plan". If someone asks you to sign something and they won't show you the details, that's not a plan but a con. Is it any wonder that Olmert is in prison for cons?
Look at your troll like behaviour to distract from the fact that the Palestinians have refuesed multiple offers that Israel had agreed to.
 

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Look at your troll like behaviour to distract from the fact that the Palestinians have refuesed multiple offers that Israel had agreed to.
During my short time dealing with you it's become apparent that you have a difficult time proving what you claim. You have only produced one offer from Israel.

That you resort to childish name calling speaks volumes.
 

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During my short time dealing with you it's become apparent that you have a difficult time proving what you claim. You have only produced one offer from Israel.

That you resort to childish name calling speaks volumes.
As opposed to zero from they Palestinians. Israel also accepted peace offers multiple times (which you are trying to avoid discussing) as opposed to zero from the Palestinians. After Olmert's offer the Palestinians did not respond with an offser of their own.

The Palestinians view diplomacy as a last resort, to be tried only after every possibility of a violent solution has been tried.

And you aren't new here, gryfin.
 

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As opposed to zero from they Palestinians. Israel also accepted peace offers multiple times (which you are trying to avoid discussing) as opposed to zero from the Palestinians. After Olmert's offer the Palestinians did not respond with an offser of their own.

The Palestinians view diplomacy as a last resort, to be tried only after every possibility of a violent solution has been tried.

And you aren't new here, gryfin.
A Palestinian plan has already be provided in this thread. Back to square one for you.
 

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That wasn't a peace offer, liar. All you do is lie lie lie lie lie.
It was. Back to square one for you.

Please don't waste everyone's time with another one of your boilerplate spam responses.
 

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Wrong again! Doing that a lot of that today Spam Meister!
Your example up thread was a list of demands that had to be met before Abbas would even agree to talks. It was not a peace proposal.

Netanyahu is ready to talk any time any where without any preconditions. If we are counting offers to talk Israel has offered to talk thousands of times.

But we were not discussing offers to talk. We were discussing actual proposals to settle the conflict. Only Israel has made and accepted those, the Palestinians have never.
 

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Your example up thread was a list of demands that had to be met before Abbas would even agree to talks. It was not a peace proposal.

Netanyahu is ready to talk any time any where without any preconditions. If we are counting offers to talk Israel has offered to talk thousands of times.

But we were not discussing offers to talk. We were discussing actual proposals to settle the conflict. Only Israel has made and accepted those, the Palestinians have never.
More spam, Spam Meister. You produce nothing but mindless boilerplate generalities. No sources. Nothing. Absolutely worthless.
 

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During my short time dealing with you it's become apparent that you have a difficult time proving what you claim.....
It looks to me that you like engaging in pathetic games to demonize Israel instead of addressing the many wrongs with the Palestinian leadership.
 

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A Palestinian plan has already be provided in this thread. Back to square one for you.
Seems you didn't read your own link. Don't worry, Franky does the same thing all the time.

What wiki refers to as the "Abbas Peace Plan" is nothing but a proposal to enforce deadlines on negotiations. Abbas offered nothing.

Abbas' plan calls for nine months of direct talks followed by a three-year plan for Israel to withdraw to the 1967 lines, leaving East Jerusalem as Palestine's capital.[78] As part of the plan, Israel will freeze all settlement construction as well as release the final batch of prisoners from the previous talks.[79]

The first three months of the plan would revolve around the borders and potential land swaps for the 1967 lines. The following six months would focus on issues including refugees, Jerusalem, settlements, security and water.[80]


You want to pretend that thing's like Olmert's offer wasn't a peace offer yet you call this a peace plan? What a farce.
 

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It looks to me that you like engaging in pathetic games to demonize Israel instead of addressing the many wrongs with the Palestinian leadership.
There are lots of things wrong the Palestinian leadership, but at least they don't run an apartheid state.
 

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There are lots of things wrong the Palestinian leadership, but at least they don't run an apartheid state.
Yes they do. They prevent Palestinians from leaving the camps in the West Bank and Gaza. Fatah is instrumental in the same treatment in Syria and Lebanon.

But you never criticize that ACTUAL apartheid. You just make lies up about Israel.
 

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Seems you didn't read your own link. Don't worry, Franky does the same thing all the time.

What wiki refers to as the "Abbas Peace Plan" is nothing but a proposal to enforce deadlines on negotiations. Abbas offered nothing.

Abbas' plan calls for nine months of direct talks followed by a three-year plan for Israel to withdraw to the 1967 lines, leaving East Jerusalem as Palestine's capital.[78] As part of the plan, Israel will freeze all settlement construction as well as release the final batch of prisoners from the previous talks.[79]

The first three months of the plan would revolve around the borders and potential land swaps for the 1967 lines. The following six months would focus on issues including refugees, Jerusalem, settlements, security and water.[80]


You want to pretend that thing's like Olmert's offer wasn't a peace offer yet you call this a peace plan? What a farce.
You might want to read your own post...which confirms that it was regarded as a Peace Plan. And then you go on to outline some of the terms and process of the peace plan. Sound comprehensive.

So, back to square one for you. And while you are there, maybe you can find those multiple Israeli peace plans rather than the single one you've trotted out.
 
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