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Don't conflate the two. Hillary's email investigation was going on for a year, if she would have given up all her emails that wouldn't have happened.

What is being talked about here, is not FBI, it's a source that has yet to be verified.

Big difference.
The FBI is investigating and they gained enough confidence that it's true to include it in the briefing notes they presented to the Senate, the President, and the President-elect.

Now no one on terb will care about golden showers but for the American public that's going to be a shocker.

They also supposedly tried to pay him off a bunch of times but according to this report he didn't take the money. On the other hand he supposedly has a lot closer relationships with the Russians than he lets on and he regularly received information from them about Clinton and others.
 

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The amazing aspect of this is that there is nothing in the report that is not credible, based on Trump's known past behaviour. No one can defend with, "Trump would never have women come in and piss on a Presidential suite hotel bed once used by the Obamas" because it is definitely something the petty, famously vindictive man would do. Even his strongest supporters cannot deny that it sounds exactly like something he would do.
And even if he acknowledged it, this wouldn't be the worst thing he's admitted to doing.


Also hilarious that Trump defenders are braying about 'fake news" and allegations when those were the basis of his entire political campaign. For instance this classic tweet:



Of course, there was no "extremely credible source" and STILL no apology from Putin's puppet. What can Trump say in his own defense now, "Don't believe their lies...believe my lies" L O fucking L.
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CNN is a reliable source and their strength is reporting breaking news and covering events like the Ft. Lauderdale airport shooting.

As soon as their analysts/pundits begin talking they tend to go off the rails when it comes to being a "reliable source"

If a story is unsubstantiated and they let the pundits go at it they then turn into a shit show
Sounds like Fox News everyday - not sure how much they still do this recently, but they've been known to do it for quite a number of years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYA9ufivbDw
 

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Actually the news is credible. All the sources are validated. It's just that no confirmation has surfaced of the actual allegations themselves- yet. And the allegations themselves are fairly moderate. Nothing about Trump having massive private financial dealings with Putin or personal face to face meetings or taking massive bribes. Surely if the source was trying to discredit Trump or make a ton of cash, the report would be far more sensational and accusatory.
 

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"Hey, Mr Trump, can I come to "urine-auguration?"
 
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The FBI is investigating and they gained enough confidence that it's true to include it in the briefing notes they presented to the Senate, the President, and the President-elect.

Now no one on terb will care about golden showers but for the American public that's going to be a shocker.

They also supposedly tried to pay him off a bunch of times but according to this report he didn't take the money. On the other hand he supposedly has a lot closer relationships with the Russians than he lets on and he regularly received information from them about Clinton and others.
They included it as an addendum an NO it hasn't been verified. You really believe anything. Also it can be proven to be fake news because people involved have proof of where they were. But don't let that get into the way of you fake news release.
 

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BuzzFeed Posts Unverified Claims on Trump, Stirring Debate
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html?_r=0
BuzzFeed News became the center of a swirling debate over journalistic ethics on Tuesday after its decision to publish a 35-page document carrying explosive, but unverified, allegations about ties between the Russian government and President-elect Donald J. Trump.

The document, a dossier prepared by a former British intelligence officer hired by Mr. Trump’s political opponents, had been circulating among high-ranking politicians and some journalists since the fall. Intelligence officials recently presented a two-page summary of the allegations to Mr. Trump and President Obama, CNN reported on Tuesday.
Buzzfeed/CNN/FBI/CIA gets trolled by 4chan and takes the bait.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax
 

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Personally, I think it's because he ran through the candidacy for the nomination like a bull in a china shop, he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Once, if and a BIG IF, if he got the nomination, shit really started to play out for him and Russia.
----Now look where things are.

He never even ran in 2012. He was flirting with the idea. Sorry, but government (any govt) does not scout and look for the guy with almost no chance of winning. They look at dependable, reliable people to back. Russia would be no different than any of the donors. They would support blue chip candidates like Jeb or Clinton. Russia had a better chance with Ron paul/rand paul back in 2012.
 

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#goldenshowers

hours of fun:

'turns out wikileaks is the name of one of his hookers'
'we thought Trump only liked to be showered in praise'
'you can't spell Trump without a Pee'

The PEEOTUS is pissed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C13dsZOUcAEAMJC.jpg


Either its a 4chan hoax or we are in for the craziest next few weeks.
What fun!
lol Russia has pee pics of Trump and thus forced him to fun for prez. Yeah...

Is Russia an escort agency now?
 

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The Day 4chan trolled Neocons, Intelligence Agencies and the Mainstream Media
http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017...telligence-agencies-and-the-mainstream-media/

After unverified reports surfaced that President-elect Donald Trump once had Russian prostitutes urinate on each other in front of him on a bed the Obamas previously shared, the #GoldenShowerGate #PissGate and #GoldenShowers hashtags shot up the trending charts on Twitter.

How it all started?

On Tuesday, CNN published an article stating that US intelligence officials presented a two-page synopsis of classified documents, which included claims that Russian operatives have compromising personal and financial information about Trump, to the president elect and President Barack Obama. The information was included as an annex to the classified version of the report prepared by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Russian influence on the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported.

Later in the day, John McCain passes the dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts to FBI and i also leaks it to Buzzfeed News who published the entire set of memos, which were purportedly “prepared for political opponents of Trump by a person who is understood to be a former British intelligence agent.” The dossier had been circulating among elected officials, journalists and the intelligence community for weeks, according to Buzzfeed’s Ken Bensinger.

Some jumped on the bait heads first, like #nevertrump voice Rick Wilson who later on twitter, stating that the report “gave a new meaning to Wikileaks”.

The remarkable thing? Not only was fake; it’s a prank perpetuated by 4chan, on Rick Wilson himself.
 

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Actually the news is credible. All the sources are validated. It's just that no confirmation has surfaced of the actual allegations themselves- yet. And the allegations themselves are fairly moderate. Nothing about Trump having massive private financial dealings with Putin or personal face to face meetings or taking massive bribes. Surely if the source was trying to discredit Trump or make a ton of cash, the report would be far more sensational and accusatory.
So far everyone's been fixated on the golden showers elements of the reports, not surprising they are the most fun (see sig).

But in those reports are also allegations that Trump's team was receiving reports from Putin's government through the election, and recall there is already an allegation out that one of his team members knew of the Clinton email hacking before the public and press did. One other member was also removed for connections to Russia.

There are also allegations that Trump isn't as rich as he claims and that he owes money to Russia buried in there.

If the report is vindicated Trump may not be president.
 

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Possible, but not likely.
There were reports of Russian blackmail on Trump in October last year.
Did you actually read that bogus feed? You'll get a pop-under from Chaturbate or some other randomized clickbaiting site if you click the Home button to see who The Daily Westerner is. And they'll stay hidden.
 

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Did you actually read that bogus feed? You'll get a pop-under from Chaturbate or some other randomized clickbaiting site if you click the Home button to see who The Daily Westerner is. And they'll stay hidden.
Yes, its really most likely to be fake.

Al Jazeera notes that these allegations were in the hand of the FBI during the election but that Comey neglected to warn anyone about them and instead allowed the Clinton warrant to be publicized in the week before the election.

But FBI director ignored the reports on Russia-Trump connection and instead focused on what he termed "potentially explosive" information about the Clinton emails.


COUNTING THE COST: Trump v America - Presidential conflict of interest? (25:09)

To Democrats' consternation, Comey went public with the Clinton controversy a week before the elections, but remained quiet about the Trump-Russia affair.

Nothing came out of the FBI investigation of the Clinton emails, which many argue led to her defeat. This may, or may not, be true. But it's more likely if the British report became public before November 8, that it could've diminished Trump's chances of winning.

Could this have something to do with the fact the Comey was a registered Republican before he was confirmed as FBI director in 2013? Did his politics prejudice his professional judgment? Or is the report no more than "fake news"?

The jury is split.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...d-james-bond-russia-love-170111130000939.html

Sure is entertaining.

Trump's about to hold a press conference, I'm sure that will be entertaining as well.
 

oldjones

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Yes, its really most likely to be fake.

Al Jazeera notes that these allegations were in the hand of the FBI during the election but that Comey neglected to warn anyone about them and instead allowed the Clinton warrant to be publicized in the week before the election.


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...d-james-bond-russia-love-170111130000939.html

Sure is entertaining.

Trump's about to hold a press conference, I'm sure that will be entertaining as well.
Of course the Clinton matter was already part of an ongoing formal FBI investigation of a government official, while the tip from a prominent Republican was only that, and concerned the sexual antics (so we're told) of a private citizen. Investigating private citizens, especially those running for office, is something only secret police do. That is one of the jobs-functions of the FBI, but one they must keep secret if they're to do it at all.

For entertainment I'm bigly anticipating Trump's Inauguration Address. Imagine what such a polished public speaker will do with the podium that once gave us inspiration in phrases like , "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country", "… the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance" and "passion may have strained [but] must not break our bonds of affection … touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."
 

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Of course the Clinton matter was already part of an ongoing formal FBI investigation of a government official, while the tip from a prominent Republican was only that, and concerned the sexual antics (so we're told) of a private citizen. Investigating private citizens, especially those running for office, is something only secret police do. That is one of the jobs-functions of the FBI, but one they must keep secret if they're to do it at all.
The Clinton Foundation FBI investigation was based on allegations from a dubious book written by a Breitbart 'reporter'.

Trump's now repeating the claim that as president he can't have a conflict of interest, wonder who gave him this advice?
He's also stating that he has zero Russian investments/interests and still refuses to release his taxes.

Nothing new in this presser and nothing that's going to slow the rumours and investigations into this latest report.
 
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Possible, but not likely.
There were reports of Russian blackmail on Trump in October last year.
You mean Oct 2016, like 3 months ago, when the 4chann guy actually wrote the fake story? lol.. There are screenshots of the fairytale
 

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You mean Oct 2016, like 3 months ago, when the 4chann guy actually wrote the fake story? lol.. There are screenshots of the fairytale
The screenshots I saw had Nov 1 as the date, while the blackmail story surfaced in Oct.
But I haven't looked into it much.

Other Trump news today:
States he can't legally be in conflict of interest
Won't divest his business
Won't stop running his business, just foreign deals
Won't release his taxes
Calls CNN fake news
Calls himself an 'asset' if Putin likes him.
Hiring an anti-vaxxer to investigate all vaccine use
States 2017 will be a catastrophe

big day
 
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