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Same teenager Nottyboi, in both posts who stabbed two people. It doesn't say that he was tried as an adult. Sorry but convicting a 14 year old who stabbed two people and wanted to kill them, of attempted murder doesn't trouble me. Now sentencing him to 20 years in prison that would trouble me.
 

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Same teenager Nottyboi, in both posts who stabbed two people. It doesn't say that he was tried as an adult. Sorry but convicting a 14 year old who stabbed two people and wanted to kill them, of attempted murder doesn't trouble me. Now sentencing him to 20 years in prison that would trouble me.
12 years... insanity. I agree some time in a child reform facility is required, but 12 years in prison WOW!!!!
 

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^ More typically for a juvenile it would be 7 years. However, there may be extenuating circumstances of which I am unaware, and with attempted murder that isn't unlikely.
 

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Same teenager Nottyboi, in both posts who stabbed two people. It doesn't say that he was tried as an adult. Sorry but convicting a 14 year old who stabbed two people and wanted to kill them, of attempted murder doesn't trouble me. Now sentencing him to 20 years in prison that would trouble me.
Sounds reasonable to me as well, Notty. Tell us what would happen to the lad in your paradise called Putin's Russia??
 

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Sounds reasonable to me as well, Notty. Tell us what would happen to the lad in your paradise called Putin's Russia??
The contrast is with Israeli treatment of the soldier Azaria, who killed a Palestinian who lay prone and incapacitated and will likely be pardoned.
Stab a Jew = 12 years
Kill a Palestinian = 0 years

Or the case of a Palestinian teen, shot in the eye by the IDF while on a walk with his mother, father complains so IDF come arrest the teen and torture him to make him confess to throwing stones.
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.763269

Just more examples of apartheid law.
 

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The contrast is with Israeli treatment of the soldier Azaria, who killed a Palestinian who lay prone and incapacitated and will likely be pardoned.
Stab a Jew = 12 years
Kill a Palestinian = 0 years

Or the case of a Palestinian teen, shot in the eye by the IDF while on a walk with his mother, father complains so IDF come arrest the teen and torture him to make him confess to throwing stones.
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.763269

Just more examples of apartheid law.
Contrary to your absolute bullshit the soldier has been convicted. And he's not the first. Meanwhile the Palestinians NEVER prosecute people for killing Jews.
 

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The contrast is with Israeli treatment of the soldier Azaria, who killed a Palestinian who lay prone and incapacitated and will likely be pardoned.
Stab a Jew = 12 years
Kill a Palestinian = 0 years
However those aren't the actual facts are they. The Palestinian teenager unprovokedly stabbed two people. While the "prone and incapacitated Palestinian (Abdel Fattah al-Sharif)" had moments before shot an Israeli soldier.

Further, despite the political statements, I highly doubt given the facts of the case that Elor Azaria will be pardoned within the next three years.
 

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However those aren't the actual facts are they. The Palestinian teenager unprovokedly stabbed two people. While the "prone and incapacitated Palestinian (Abdel Fattah al-Sharif)" had moments before shot an Israeli soldier.

Further, despite the political statements, I highly doubt given the facts of the case that Elor Azaria will be pardoned within the next three years.
The Palestinian teen who was shot in the eye with a rubber bullet was out walking with his mother. No provoking there.
The Palestinian who was murdered while injured by the IDF soldier didn't shoot anyone, he stabbed or attempted to stab a soldier which indicates he was 'provoked' by the 50 year old occupation of his land.

Get the facts right.
 

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Same teenager Nottyboi, in both posts who stabbed two people. It doesn't say that he was tried as an adult. Sorry but convicting a 14 year old who stabbed two people and wanted to kill them, of attempted murder doesn't trouble me. Now sentencing him to 20 years in prison that would trouble me.
Notty is opposed to punishing people for attacking Jews.

^ More typically for a juvenile it would be 7 years. However, there may be extenuating circumstances of which I am unaware, and with attempted murder that isn't unlikely.
In Canadian/American law, being a hate crime would call for a longer punishment.
 

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You mean the attack on military occupation soldiers by those they brutally occupy and rule without their consent?
I know you and Hamas justify celebrate heroic acts like this:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/3-dead-...-in-jerusalem/

But a simple question; how does an attack like that advance peace, help create a Palestinian state or make the lives of the Palestinians any better?

Oh I know. You don't care about any of that other than Jews being killed.
 

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I know you and Hamas justify celebrate heroic acts like this:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/3-dead-...-in-jerusalem/

But a simple question; how does an attack like that advance peace, help create a Palestinian state or make the lives of the Palestinians any better?

Oh I know. You don't care about any of that other than Jews being killed.
How does ethnic cleansing help Palestinians help peace? How does violating international law and building settlements help peace? How does governing people without their consent help peace? How does brutalizing millions of Palestinians for half a century help peace? How does stealing the land and property of those people within Israel help peace? How does refusing to allow those people to return to their homes help peace? How does an ideology that privileges Jews over anyone else help peace? How did land ownership that eliminated land use or labor by anyone but Jews help peace?
 

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I see. You refuse to answer how Palestinian attacks are in any way productive other than just killing Jews. Don't worry, I'm not surprised by you.
Really? I would have thought that any reasonable person would have acknowledged that subjecting any people to a half century of brutal ethnic cleansing, property theft, military occupation, governance without consent, murders, imprisoning of their children, violations of international law, racist land ownership, etc, would result in those people attacking their military occupier.
 
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