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Good article but I learned absolutely nothing new. Everything in it has been discussed to death in this thread. Excellent if you just crawled out of a cave and wondered why the Jays aren't in the playoffs this year but otherwise... Meh.
 

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I find the Cobb thing to be corny...that's right corn on the cobb. Maybe Ty Cobb could help, if the non white players don't mind. He is currently lawyer for Donald Trump
 

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Not sure what you mean by this.
I don't want him dumped! Reality says the Jays won't pick up his option. I hope the Jays approach him before he is released and find out his intentions. If he is going to retire then offer him a position within the Jays organization, If he still believes he can play, do a joint news conference and wish him well. The man was "The Guy" here for a number of years!
 

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I don't want him dumped! Reality says the Jays won't pick up his option. I hope the Jays approach him before he is released and find out his intentions. If he is going to retire then offer him a position within the Jays organization, If he still believes he can play, do a joint news conference and wish him well. The man was "The Guy" here for a number of years!

There's no question he thinks he can still play and will look to find a suitor. Having said that, JB is smart enough to know after last year the market for him was quite thin at his asking price, and because of his performance this year, it will be thin to zero at whatever a team is willing to give him. There's usually one team that's willing to gamble for cheep money, and despite such a bad year, there might be still something left in the tank so they roll the dice for a few million, but that seems to be happening less and less.

I think JB got to greedy. He knew coming off the 2015 season hype, he was at the pinnacle of his hype/marketability. After hitting the big home run against Texas and the two clutch ones against KC, he tried to strong arm the club by coming out in spring training 2016 and demanded 5 years at 125 million. That was to much. The club might have bit on something like 3 years between 60 and 75 million.
 

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There's no question he thinks he can still play and will look to find a suitor. Having said that, JB is smart enough to know after the last year the market for him was quite thin at his asking price, and because of his performance this year, it will be thin to zero at whatever a team is willing to give him. There's usually one team that's willing to gamble for cheep money, and despite such a bad year, there might be still something left in the tank so they roll the dice for a few million, but that seems to be happening less and less.

think JB got to greedy. He knew coming off the 2015 season hype, he was at the pinnacle of his hype/marketability. After hitting the big home run against Texas and the two clutch ones against KC, he tired to strong arm the club by coming out in spring training 2016 and demanded 5 years at 125 million. That was to much. The club might have bit on something like 3 years between 60 and 75 million.
I hope you are wrong and he retires while we still have fond memories in a Blue Jay uniform. I agree he could still get picked up and given a contract with a lot of bonuses in it but IMO the time has come to enjoy the good life. He received $18,500, 000. U.S. this year while living in Canada, he can't need the money. If he signs for "cheap money", I would think it would have to be with a team that has a shot at winning it all and that may include the Jays.
He can help teams as he is versatile, corner OF, third, first, DH., but he made his name with his bat and that at the moment is suspect. The eye is still there but walks don't usually drive in runs.
Just leave the game with dignity intact!
 

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but IMO the time has come to enjoy the good life. He received $18,500, 000. U.S. this year while living in Canada, he can't need the money.

By the end of this year, his career earnings will be at $103,297,500.00.

If you can't learn to live happily on that, something is seriously wrong..lol.
 
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smitherz

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A non-slugging slugger is a waste of a roster spot.

His WAR currently according to baseball reference is -1.6 on the season which would be the worst all-time for any Blue Jay over a full season.

Usually when players suck this bad they get released or traded for a bag of peanuts long before they accumulate such dismal stats.
I think Rogers and Jays management have already done him a solid running him out there all season even though the tank is clearly empty.
They could've given him the Frank Thomas treatment.

The Jose Bautista story is an amazing one, it was a great run for him and his family is set financially for several generations. Know when to walk away. But I'm guessing he signs with a team like Oakland for another year on a low salary to try and regain his form.

Another all-time favourite, Joe Carter, sucked rhinoceros balls his last season in Toronto as well. He played one more mediocre season before retiring.
 

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In the end, Jose will be Jose. His own best friend and his own worst enemy.

I always admired his spunk... but not his arrogance.

Sort of like all of us, eh?

Perry
 

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A non-slugging slugger is a waste of a roster spot.

His WAR currently according to baseball reference is -1.6 on the season which would be the worst all-time for any Blue Jay over a full season.

Usually when players suck this bad they get released or traded for a bag of peanuts long before they accumulate such dismal stats.
I think Rogers and Jays management have already done him a solid running him out there all season even though the tank is clearly empty.
They could've given him the Frank Thomas treatment.

The Jose Bautista story is an amazing one, it was a great run for him and his family is set financially for several generations. Know when to walk away. But I'm guessing he signs with a team like Oakland for another year on a low salary to try and regain his form.

Another all-time favourite, Joe Carter, sucked rhinoceros balls his last season in Toronto as well. He played one more mediocre season before retiring.
This
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Uhm, who stole the pitchtracker??!! :confused:
 

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Phil C. McNasty

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Who needs Bautista when we have our slugger Barney batting cleanup??!!
 

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Who needs Bautista when we have our slugger Barney batting cleanup??!!
Not much difference between Jose striking out and Barney grounding out.

Shapeero has built quite a team from what AA left him.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Jays and Marco Estrada are close to signing a new contract. Short term 1 or 2 year deal
My guess it'll be 1 year plus a 1-year club option. I think thats the most he deserves
 

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About Shatkins...

As I said before, I am beginning to like what they are doing and, tentatively, take back much of what I said about them at the time they were hired. These guys seem to be very skilled professionals...

Certainly, the team they built and left behind in Cleveland augurs well for the future of the BJ's.

If they make 2 or 3 "good" moves over the winter, the BJ's could even contend next year... :beguiled:

Perry
 

smitherz

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My guess it'll be 1 year plus a 1-year club option. I think thats the most he deserves
Reports are saying it's 1 year deal only, no option , $13million.

Good for both sides. Jays get a decent starter with a track record for 1 more year to give the young arms some time to develop.
And Estrada can rebuild his market value and try FA again next year.
This is twice he's extended with the Jays without testing free agency, so he must really like to play here.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So much for Brett Anderson....LOL
 
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