More likely 2 years plus an option.
Any idea if it the option is Gibby's, the teams, or mutual???
More likely 2 years plus an option.
That is a given. LOLI know a lot more
Team.Any idea if it the option is Gibby's, the teams, or mutual???
I was kidding shack. Obviously I don't know more than the GM, and neither do you.That is a given. LOL
Hopefully, you are willing to share the stage with skyrider
You're talking to the wrong guy. I dare you to find posts where I claim I know more than the GM or manager. Although I do have lots of posts critical of those who do.I was kidding shack. Obviously I don't know more than the GM, and neither do you.
Absolutely. I'm down about 10 pounds in the last month.Have you tried lightening up a bit??
200 more pounds to go :applause:Absolutely. I'm down about 10 pounds in the last month
It sounds like your philosophy is that there is only one good manager each year. The other 29 are losers.I have been in the anti Gibbons column....I think his record is mediocre...we lost the last 2 seasons to teams we could beat...and Cleveland was far better prepared than we were, so was KC. So congrats to those who are satisfied with making the playoffs..
And it is widely accepted that Gibbons would not be a good choice for a young, retooling team. But this is a veteran team and you listed all the leaders in the clubhouse. And in my opinion, a 2 year deal for a guy that got them to the ALCS 2 years in a row is just reward, yet very far from long term security. Keep in mind, only 5 teams in all of baseball made the playoffs the last 2 years, let alone get to the final 4.But even if you like him as a manager....why the job security? Managers all know they are going to get fired some day.... We have a few guys ..Tulo Bautista, Martin....even Donaldson - Grilli with limited years left.....but old John will be there in 2019 and 2020 when the re-tooling has to happen.
No, I would not fire him now (might have after 2013)...but I would not have given him the extension.....I actually would give him a passing grade for last year (the year before, you could have managed them with the same results). My argument is 2 fold...if you want to be good enough for the playoffs but not the ws, reward him. If you think a major re-tooling might be necessary in a couple years - you may want a new manager thenIt sounds like your philosophy is that there is only one good manager each year. The other 29 are losers.
And it is widely accepted that Gibbons would not be a good choice for a young, retooling team. But this is a veteran team and you listed all the leaders in the clubhouse. And in my opinion, a 2 year deal for a guy that got them to the ALCS 2 years in a row is just reward, yet very far from long term security. Keep in mind, only 5 teams in all of baseball made the playoffs the last 2 years, let alone get to the final 4.
Just curious, what would you do, fire him?
Whether or not they will need a major retooling depends on the moves ShapiroAtkins make between now and then. A lot of the problems the Jays have had, IMO, have been caused by the front office more so than things the manager have done.No, I would not fire him now (might have after 2013)...but I would not have given him the extension.....I actually would give him a passing grade for last year (the year before, you could have managed them with the same results). My argument is 2 fold...if you want to be good enough for the playoffs but not the ws, reward him. If you think a major re-tooling might be necessary in a couple years - you may want a new manager then
Can't argue much there.No, I would not fire him now (might have after 2013)...but I would not have given him the extension.....I actually would give him a passing grade for last year (the year before, you could have managed them with the same results). My argument is 2 fold...if you want to be good enough for the playoffs but not the ws, reward him. If you think a major re-tooling might be necessary in a couple years - you may want a new manager then
Spring training time too - hopefully just getting warmed up for the season.Marcus Str OOOOOO man! If he pitches like this, he will be a superstar. No hitter for 6 innings tonight in wbc
No idea of any details of the game.Nice to see Justin Smoak in mid-season form.