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clients and SPs, what are some of your pet peeves during sessions?

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When you know a popular SP books multiple back to backs and she uses baby wipes in lieu of a shower for the next client. You can tell, especially in non-summer months her whole skin is all sticky. YUCK.
Ya. And wipes can have that clinical kind of smell and taste to it. Guaranteed wipe down.

Nobody getting out from a fresh shower smells/tastes like that.
 

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I hate when new SP’s count the money in front of you and she double checks two or three times. And she doesn’t even count the tip that I put in beforehand. Why don’t they count the tip or say anything ? Acting dumb ??
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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I hate when new SP’s count the money in front of you and she double checks two or three times. And she doesn’t even count the tip that I put in beforehand. Why don’t they count the tip or say anything ? Acting dumb ??
There is a corollary to this - SPs that put the money away immediately before the session begins - usually (through my personal experience) a sign of a bad session to be had. All of my favourites to date have never put the money away till I am done and in the shower or after I leave. Unfortuntely all of these fine sexy girls have retired...
 

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There is a corollary to this - SPs that put the money away immediately before the session begins - usually (through my personal experience) a sign of a bad session to be had. All of my favourites to date have never put the money away till I am done and in the shower or after I leave. Unfortuntely all of these fine sexy girls have retired...
It’s called class or respect. Agency girls should count the money whilst we are in the shower. Indy’s I have found will trust you since you’ve communicated prior and gotten to know them.

They’re smart enough to know or count when you’re not looking.

Once somebody counts in front of you then it says so much about them that I would not repeat unless there was an exceptional reason for it.
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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The good service SPs from Backpage that I have "met" did not touch the money even on my first visit

It’s called class or respect. Agency girls should count the money whilst we are in the shower. Indy’s I have found will trust you since you’ve communicated prior and gotten to know them.

They’re smart enough to know or count when you’re not looking.

Once somebody counts in front of you then it says so much about them that I would not repeat unless there was an exceptional reason for it.
 

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I do outcall only and out of all the times I've called over an SP, maybe only 10% of the time, they make a bee line for the envelope and count the money. The other 90%, we have fun and she grabs the envelope at the end and walks out. And I guess they trust me :) because when they grab it and go they don't even bother counting it first before leaving.

If some of you guys are experiencing most SPs are focusing on the money before having fun, there's probably something they don't trust about you.
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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I always will ensure that I put the money on a table in plain sight fanned out so that my gal can see that it is all there and does not leave anybody in an uncomfortable or stressful situation. There are a lot of bad dudes out there who give everybody else a bad rep...you should not have to ask for the donation at any visit, initial or repeat ones.

From the SPs perspective... from what I've heard in group chats a lot of new ladies are scared to ask for the money or touch the envelope if they work for an agency and just pray that the money is there. They can be super worried about reviews and how they will be perceived by the board if someone complains. I have never been stiffed, just shorted pay once and 99% of the time I make sure I can see the money before proceeding just in case. The few times I didn't insist and had to wait until I was paid after made me a little preoccupied all session, and one guy even whipped out his wallet after we were done in a condescending way and said "So how much is it again FOR ME?" when I knew him and had come for outcall several times he knew the price he was just hoping for a discount... it can be stressful. A lot of girls have been stiffed and then it ruined their whole day or week because they felt stupid and violated not getting paid and someone ripping them off so it's understandable if anyone wants to make sure in advance.

I don't think it's a knock against the SP as long as she's polite about it. I usually count the money while guys are in the shower at incalls, but for outcalls I can't do that so I just have to pray all of the money is in the envelope as it's almost always in an envelope and set aside on the desk when I walk in.

Please understand that "seeming safe and friendly" doesn't really mean anything Ted Bundy seemed like a really nice guy. True scammers and psychopaths are experts in pretending to be someone they are not and in the industry we all have to deal with that kind of guy once in a while. It's not a knock against the truly nice gents we have nothing to fear from, but perhaps consider that you shouldn't knock a lady for wanting to be relaxed in the session instead of secretly being worried if she'll be paid at the end or not. A few ladies have even said guys put cut up paper in the envelope or fake bills so it looks real and don't find out until after they leave. Another lady was paid in Visa gift cards and when she checked them all of them were empty. Some even said only after a client was a regular did they start shorting them or refusing to pay because they felt entitled based on their friendship.

Unfortunately a few bad apples ruin it for everyone so don't take it to heart if someone wants to feel assured on the first time they meet at least. I love both incall and outcall and it's always appreciated when the gent just casually sets aside the money or an envelope in plain sighte. If I can count it while he's showering I do, if I can't I'll check when I go to the bathroom before I leave and it's very comfortable and discreet for both parties.
 

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1. SPs who stink. Bad odours like she hadn't showered since yesterday. Bad breath, smells of smoke and weed, which means she hasn't brushed her teeth lately either. I do outcalls only and always wash up, and clean my place before she comes over. She can do the same.

2. SPs with zero personality/cold fish. You can at least pretend to have a good time and be cheery. Sitting there with a boring face and giving two word answers is not fun. I always try to be a nice gut to chat with, always have drinks ready and try to be a good host. I'll even help her take her coat off and hang it etc.... At least try to pleasant back. It's only an hours worth.

3. Agency pics. That shitty feeling when you open the door and..... "Fuck, I got burned with asshole photshopping". Open the door and she looks nothing like the pics. Always a black mark for the site. And some do it worse than others.
1) Being called “Babe”
2) Excessive over the top moaning. I almost started to laugh once it was so crazy.
3) Smoke smell
4) Dirty room
5) SP talking about other clients or the size of their roster
1. having to wait in a hallway outside the door when im on time
2. wet bathroom floors
3. nasty looking nails. not expecting long polished nails or anything but at least have them look presentable. almost ended a session because i looked down and it felt like gollum was stroking my c*ck
4. secret charges once you are in the room
5. fake pics
6. bad hygiene especially when their ad says you MUST shower. why don't you follow your own advice?
Oh man one time when in bed chatting up with an SP in bed pre-action..... I couldn’t help but notice her breath... a few minutes into the conversation it hit me that it wasn’t her breath whatsoever, needless to say there was no daty or doggie that day. While upon finishing in mish... after post orgasm collapse you know how we all lie there buried in a ladies collarbone vicinity to recompose ourselves ... the whiff of insane armpit odor smacked me in the face. I sprung the hell alive instantly and hit the shower.
I have experienced most of these at one time or another, some from the same provider. I once saw a known provider who delayed my appointment by 15 min. After showering a 10 min conversation and I eventually had to just go ahead and make a move (10 min is way too long in a 1 hour appointment). I rubbed her below and she came in 20s. After this that area was off limits for a while due to sensitivity. I also decided to forgo Daty after taking a quick whiff of my finger...

I've experienced used soap bars (and nothing else available - I bring a backup for this), no towels, insufficient bodywash. I've smelled BO (and the lady said she showered recently), visible hair on the face (i.e. moustache), dirty feet, bad breath. I've walked into a room in a non-smoking hotel only to see the girl lighting up. Same girl also takes a phonecall mid-appointment, argues with the other person, starts crying and proceeds to be depressed for the remainder of the appointment.

I put my phone on silent. Ladies, I think it's reasonable for you to do the same.

There is a corollary to this - SPs that put the money away immediately before the session begins - usually (through my personal experience) a sign of a bad session to be had. All of my favourites to date have never put the money away till I am done and in the shower or after I leave. Unfortuntely all of these fine sexy girls have retired...
I think every provider should count the money but be discreet (like when I'm in the shower). I think you are correct - if she's doing it in the open and the money is gone, bad sign. IMO the money should remain in view in case the appointment goes south early and I think leaving is the best course of action for all (e.g. if suddenly X is not available but was when booking or a clear bad attitude emerges). Of course, chances are if I'm leaving early, the lady is probably not going to be polite enough to refund it willingly so I prefer to have the money in plain view. I'd rather avoid the hassle or argument if she decides to keep it (most professionals wouldn't - then again, I probably wouldn't be walking with these ladies anyway). Honestly, in the couple of cases where I probably should have walked, I ended up just being patient and sticking around hoping the situation would improve.
 

koreanjames

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We do see a lot of newbies though who have no clue what to do, and some guys who like to hold the money over us in a power trip.
This is ridiculous I am sorry to hear this. I just leave the donation - no envelope on the table/counter top before i hit the shower. It really can’t be that tough to get right!
 

kherg007

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I always will ensure that I put the money on a table in plain sight fanned out so that my gal can see that it is all there and does not leave anybody in an uncomfortable or stressful situation. There are a lot of bad dudes out there who give everybody else a bad rep...you should not have to ask for the donation at any visit, initial or repeat ones.
I do the same particularly if it is a first visit because, as CE stated, you don't want the lady dealing with intrusive thoughts regarding whether you'll fulfill your obligation ....which ultimately makes your session a bit less than it could have been. So usually within the first 30 seconds of greeting the envelope is out and she can see it...then the shower which gives her a chance to discreetly count it if she wants to. Remember she doesn't know you from Jack squat....make sure you do things that give her confidence that you're a good client...
 

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I ALWAYS have the SP count the cash, even if its out and in the envelope. I've counted it beforehand and now the SP has counted it as well. Business is out of the way. Now lets get down to the "other business" :whoo:
 

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Makes sense. It happens a lot that nerves get the best of someone or they are chatting and just completely forget to pay before they want to start and they still have the money in their jacket or in their pants. I usually prefer if a gent thinks ahead and leaves it out before heading to the shower so it's out of the way. Sometimes with newbies they are nervous and bolt to the bathroom and then are all showered and come out excited and want to start and they haven't made any attempt to pay and so I have to smile and ask nicely if they don't mind settling up before we get started and point to a surface they can leave the money on. I never stop and go and count it in that scenario, but at least we both know they put it there and they are unlikely to leave and totally forget to pay on the off chance it slips their mind.
In defense of the newbs since I'm sorta still am one my self, yep you might have to remind us some times but don't feel bad about it at all! I can't speak for everyone else but there is definitely a "deer in the headlights" moment when seeing you ladies. Actually one time not too long ago I almost walked out without paying. I would have of course came back and settled up but I get how it happens. Awesome greeting at the door, session blows your mind, then a farewell kiss... my head is in fantasy land not reality. I had my hand on the door knob to leave before I clued in, I think she may have been mentioning something too but I was too distracted by my own embarrassment at that point. Next appointment I made sure that didn't happen and even set an alert on my phone to remind me in case I got "distracted" again.
 

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-walking to the bedroom basically without me and far in front. I hate when strippers do this as well when walking to the VIP area, they don't even bother faming caring about you
-getting undressed unceremoniously before the shower together. Seems rather unclimatic
-NOT PUTTING HER CELLPHONE ON SILENT
-talking about religion, politics, or anything depressing from the news before a sesh or even after
 

sempel

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Nonsensical discussion topics
Astrology - "what's your sign?"
Nutrition and natural health "You should try this all-natural XXXXX 4 times a day"
Nasty boils/sores/cuts you currently have

Some ladies are willing to listen to my problems so I have no issue listening to theirs. However with some girls they only talk, it's all about them and their problems and it turns into a therapy session for them. All I'm now thinking is how much she should be paying me for the therapy.

And yes, I've had a cat jump onto the bed mid appointment without warning or knowledge of its existence prior to that moment. I don't mind travel companions but they should be quiet (Some dogs aren't) and either in a cage or on a leash so I'm not attacked. And some pets smell up a place so take care of any odours prior.
 

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This is ridiculous I am sorry to hear this. I just leave the donation - no envelope on the table/counter top before i hit the shower. It really can’t be that tough to get right!
There are posts, threads and tweets about this directly.

About how it is important to hand the money directly to the provider so she knows who is paying her and therefore who is in control. I wish I could find the most recent write up about this. This guy went on and on about the power dynamic and how men need to hand the money direct, make her count out each bill, lower amount bills are even better to make her count out more.

Some people are seriously twisted.
 

sempel

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So I take it that rolls and rolls of nickels, dimes, and quarters aren't appreciated? lol

I am all too happy when a bank gives me the option to choose bills - I go for the biggest. Easy to count for me and her. Simple. Rate is $300 - 3 $100 bills. Smaller bills can result in errors, some in my favor, some in hers.
 
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