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Romanov

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I saw Candice recently at Pickering Angels, the latest in a strong of disappointing appointments at Pickering Angels that has me thinking that I should give up on them. She's new to PA but not to the industry. I think she said she was at SRM before? Not exactly sure.

Complaints...

Charged extra for MSOG during a VIP session
Said she had a natural chest, but as soon as the clothes came off I learned that wasn't true. When I called her on it she "clarified" that she doesn't have implants but a lift. Whatever...
No kitty play.

She's kinda cute, but doesn't matter if you can enjoy the TNA

Also, PA has cut the topless option.
 

Mulva

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Thanks for the review. No kitty play at $130.....sheesh. Not sure how some of these gals make a living. I know I haven't been in ages.
 

cptnvids

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There appears to be a macro/micro attitude about the place - be it Lavilla or PA in which being the only shop in town they can call the shots, be it management or a popular lady.

I'm told and believe it that the card swipe option pays the house but the workers wait to get paid - so given a fav pay cash.

The site shows they accept Am Ex - no WAY do THEY and when objected they said blah, blah, blah. Yes it's close or convenient but raises the need for this kind of board to inform. No kitty for 130? How about I pay with Canadian tire money? NO? It would be great given power in numbers to perform a full shut-down for a week but that improperly hurts the ladies we know and enjoy.

Any ideas on how to make management get the point? I know I don't see Adrianna (spelling?) any more because while yes, she's toned up and looks fantastic, I waited for someone well reviewed who failed to show for an early shift appointment so she strolls in. When I told her I had told the receptionist I would wait so simply no thank....she turned and closed the door without even hearing my end of sentence.

Gems aside (see Kelly or Sydney or Crystal - in my experience - Daisy gone...sigh) maybe part of the allure of hobbying is the hunt but damn it's expensive.
 

bver_hunter

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There appears to be a macro/micro attitude about the place - be it Lavilla or PA in which being the only shop in town they can call the shots, be it management or a popular lady.

I'm told and believe it that the card swipe option pays the house but the workers wait to get paid - so given a fav pay cash.

The site shows they accept Am Ex - no WAY do THEY and when objected they said blah, blah, blah. Yes it's close or convenient but raises the need for this kind of board to inform. No kitty for 130? How about I pay with Canadian tire money? NO? It would be great given power in numbers to perform a full shut-down for a week but that improperly hurts the ladies we know and enjoy.

Any ideas on how to make management get the point? I know I don't see Adrianna (spelling?) any more because while yes, she's toned up and looks fantastic, I waited for someone well reviewed who failed to show for an early shift appointment so she strolls in. When I told her I had told the receptionist I would wait so simply no thank....she turned and closed the door without even hearing my end of sentence.

Gems aside (see Kelly or Sydney or Crystal - in my experience - Daisy gone...sigh) maybe part of the allure of hobbying is the hunt but damn it's expensive.
I can understand the MPAs' concerns about their own health. However, I think that they should advertise a list of MPAS that offer the VIP session. Others should not be offering the VIP session if they do not fulfil that criteria. Alternatively, if you opt for nude reverse, you should not expect that same service that is offered during VIP sessions.
 

Celticman

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Haven't had a session at PA since January/February. No plans on going back.
Me neither. Gave up on that place some time ago never to return
 

cptnvids

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All great points - my final pass is that the signage says minutes, not outcomes. If I don't, she comes "out" of the room at a given time to move onto another appointment. I am NOT paying for functionality, if I were we would not see or experience "your mileage may vary". Why would my order of fries be different based on who's in the Kitchen or serving me at the counter?

Sorry to hear Romanov.

Happy sailing,

The good captain.
 

dirkd101

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The cost associated with MP's has been discussed at length within the forums, not just in the Durham section. While the comparisons have been made between seeing an SP and going to a MP and the comparison made in rates, there is the distinction of what it is you are there for and I support this. What I don't like, and this is what I think we are all saying is, some of these girls are getting good money and are not worth it. They are mechanical in their service, use well choreographed moves, do all they can to keep you from exploring at all and do their utmost to get you off quickly. I have told them what I want, it's my session after all and go within MP limits, but this all falls on deaf ears.
 

cptnvids

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Not on mine - you appear now and in the past to be a good man and I may one day get to lift a jar to you before embarking on a next, great sex-venture. I wish you happy hunting.
 

Jack_attack

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Before I go off on a small rant, I just want to address the fact that an upsell for MSOG is not totally unusual at an MP. I paid $20 for it once at Muse when I had liftoff too quickly. The girl was honourable though and said that she would only charge the extra if she actually managed to get me off, which with me would be a challenge. She did manage it, so I considered it money well earned.

Rant Time

To echo what Dirk said, the cost of MP's vs SP's has been discussed at length, but hey let's do it again. I'm personally ok with spending the extra cash on an MP for what many consider to be "less value". And I totally get where those people are coming from. "Do you want to get a blow job for $80 or a hand job for $130? Do you want to get fucked for $120 or a hand job for $130?" Well when you put it that way, the answer seems obvious. But I don't consider it in those terms. There's a much higher level of comfort and security when you walk in to a reputable MP location. The interior looks great, the ambience is pro, and typically the staff and your overall treatment within is excellent. That makes it worth a few extra bucks.

But then we start having problems at Lavilla and PA. Because the next step in making it worth your money should be that you're able to play eenie-meenie-minie-moe on the list of girls available and no matter who you pick, you get someone who's top notch. An established corporation should be implementing good standards of practice, twice-yearly reviews, consistent expectations of high levels of service, and so on. When you, as a customer, KNOW FOR SURE that you are going to get a great experience at an MP, that guarantee makes it worth another few extra bucks.

Do I think Lavilla and PA are doing this last part? Not necessarily. I have a decent amount of experience at PA and Lavilla. Maybe 25 sessions across the two locations in the last 7 years. Out of those 25, two of them have been wretched (a rookie who I may have gotten fired after complaining; and a loud mouth who got upset that she couldn't upsell me to a VIP). 20 of them were 6 or 7/10s. Good, but I never considered repeating, and 3 of them were outstanding (Noelle, April, and a polish woman whose name I can't remember. All three are retired or moved on). That's not a good percentage! And I think I've only avoided so many wretched ones because I check reviews first. Meanwhile almost all of my experiences at Muse, Flirt, and SRM have been 9/10 or better. Add that feedback to all of the negative feedback already in this thread and in others and you have a sub-par MPA who typically aren't worth those extra dollars.
 

themexi

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PA/Lavilla know they're the only game in town in the durham area.
Like any other monopoly, they provide shitty service bc they know they can.

The only thing that will improve their game is another NON affiliated spa opened by professionals. No amount of complaining will fix this until they notice customers voting with their wallets for a better run place.
 

Jack_attack

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PA/Lavilla know they're the only game in town in the durham area.
Like any other monopoly, they provide shitty service bc they know they can.

The only thing that will improve their game is another NON affiliated spa opened by professionals. No amount of complaining will fix this until they notice customers voting with their wallets for a better run place.
Too true. The mecca of MPAs is in the North York area. Muse 1, Muse 2, Flirt 1, Flirt 2, SRM and more. They constantly have deals and specials going on to entice you over. PA/Lavilla have never attempted anything of the sort because there's no need.
 

Romanski

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PA/Lavilla know they're the only game in town in the durham area.
Like any other monopoly, they provide shitty service bc they know they can.

The only thing that will improve their game is another NON affiliated spa opened by professionals. No amount of complaining will fix this until they notice customers voting with their wallets for a better run place.
Completely agree. Its time for another spa in the Durham Region. I am sure its easier said than done.
 

walleyejack

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if folks just stopped going. would resolve the problem maybe. jmo.. but i dont go there. once at la villa when it opened was enough for me. pa..used to go there 15 yrs ago when it was good and had a nice lady there, she moved on and so did i :)
 

dirkd101

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^^^Years ago there were a number of spas in the Ajax/Pickering area and Oshawa had a handful as well. In some of the spas the ladies were hit and miss, but there was good value in the sessions provided. If all you wanted was a topless session, the girls happily provided it, without the upsell, this of course was before the VIP was known as a session, so the NR was the top session. PA had some great talent many years ago and I had many a session there enjoying myself. Competition in Durham would be welcome.
 

bver_hunter

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^^^Years ago there were a number of spas in the Ajax/Pickering area and Oshawa had a handful as well. In some of the spas the ladies were hit and miss, but there was good value in the sessions provided. If all you wanted was a topless session, the girls happily provided it, without the upsell, this of course was before the VIP was known as a session, so the NR was the top session. PA had some great talent many years ago and I had many a session there enjoying myself. Competition in Durham would be welcome.
True. There were some wonderful ladies. Now there are a couple of nice ones still around. This lady is back again. Remember her:

http://www.pickeringangels.com/Natasha
 

Jack_attack

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The competition is there and it is with comparing the good FS ladies' half hour to the VIP...in many cases far more service for less coin and you can even tip up to the PA/Lavilla VIP amount and you end up with more enthusiastic performance/service in subsequent visits from full service ladies.
And to be clear on what I'm saying, you don't necessarily go to a FSP for the full service. If they are in a decent hotel and have experience the build up can include massage, NR, even the Geisha treatment in the shower with the right lady can be better than a tub session ever has been at PA!
I guess it just takes some more work to find the right SP....some have time, some prefer to throw money at the situation. Suit yourself.
Can you point me toward this mythical Durham SP? :)

Just pulling your leg, you high quality ladies of Durham. All 3 of you.
 

Bearlythere

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I have been over the years going to PA and Lavilla. It has been hit and miss over the years. I have to say they could use the competition, but one always has to remember an MP is not the same as an SD. You are paying for....a legal experience vs one in the gray area? I have had decent to excellent experiences because I have taken my time to find the girls who were to my liking. As always, it comes down to expectations. The hassle of finding and connecting to the really good SP's is offset by the missed connections, the dopers, the whack jobs, the flea bag incalls. If you can get a good SP when you want her, then of course that is the way to go. I wish we had Muse out here, just because going up to Toronto is a pain in the ass, but in the end, PA and Lavilla are sorta like fast food. Convenient, but is it what you want? Sometimes, yes..
 
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