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The new Carrier Class....



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford-class_aircraft_carrier

Key component is 3x the power production with simpler power plants, yielding future opportunities:

Each new technology and design feature integrated into the Ford-class aircraft carrier improves sortie generation, manning requirements, and operational capabilities. New defense systems, such as free-electron laser directed-energy weapons, dynamic armor, and tracking systems will require more power. "Only half of the electrical power-generation capability on CVN-78 is needed to run currently planned systems, including EMALS. CVN-78 will thus have the power reserves that the Nimitz-class lacks to run lasers and dynamic armor."[37] The addition of new technologies, power systems, design layout, and better control systems results in an increased sortie rate of 25% over the Nimitz-class and a 25% reduction in manpower required to operate.[38]
 
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onthebottom said:
The new Carrier Class....



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford-class_aircraft_carrier

Key component is 3x the power production with simpler power plants, yielding future opportunities:

Each new technology and design feature integrated into the Ford-class aircraft carrier improves sortie generation, manning requirements, and operational capabilities. New defense systems, such as free-electron laser directed-energy weapons, dynamic armor, and tracking systems will require more power. "Only half of the electrical power-generation capability on CVN-78 is needed to run currently planned systems, including EMALS. CVN-78 will thus have the power reserves that the Nimitz-class lacks to run lasers and dynamic armor."[37] The addition of new technologies, power systems, design layout, and better control systems results in an increased sortie rate of 25% over the Nimitz-class and a 25% reduction in manpower required to operate.[38]
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People don't realize the almost absurd cost of operating these things. Just the payroll is $50m/month. So 600M a year just for the crew!!! :Eek: But the thing is, war fighting is getting much more efficient. A single F-18 can carry the same bomb load as a B-17 hat was manned by 10 people. It can fly about 4x the speed and drop bombs with much greater precision.
 
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Nice video of a restored Mk 1 Spitfire first flight:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33000234

looks so fragile and graceful, its easy to forget what a terrifying weapon it is. Imagine he mayhem a single plane like this can cause with it 6x 303 machine guns. Its so strange that the science of war yields such artistic design.
 
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I got to do a visit on the USS Constellation when I was a 12 year old kid. MAN that was amazing. Got to see F14s and A-6s up close, ride the big elevator. It was really quite amazing. I visited the USS Texas when I was in Houston and the USS Missouri when I was in Hawaii. Really amazing machines.
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F14s and A-6 Intruders are amazing war birds.
 
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The new Carrier Class....



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford-class_aircraft_carrier

Key component is 3x the power production with simpler power plants, yielding future opportunities:

Each new technology and design feature integrated into the Ford-class aircraft carrier improves sortie generation, manning requirements, and operational capabilities. New defense systems, such as free-electron laser directed-energy weapons, dynamic armor, and tracking systems will require more power. "Only half of the electrical power-generation capability on CVN-78 is needed to run currently planned systems, including EMALS. CVN-78 will thus have the power reserves that the Nimitz-class lacks to run lasers and dynamic armor."[37] The addition of new technologies, power systems, design layout, and better control systems results in an increased sortie rate of 25% over the Nimitz-class and a 25% reduction in manpower required to operate.[38]
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12.78 Billion Dollars for the U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford Supercarrier?! Holy fuck!!!

This caught my eye and I'm glad they are commissioning a new one, since they should've originally built a nuclear-powered one back in the day => On 27 May 2011, the Department of Defense announced the name of CVN-79 would be USS John F. Kennedy.[57]
 
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nottyboi said:
People don't realize the almost absurd cost of operating these things. Just the payroll is $50m/month. So 600M a year just for the crew!!! :Eek: But the thing is, war fighting is getting much more efficient. A single F-18 can carry the same bomb load as a B-17 hat was manned by 10 people. It can fly about 4x the speed and drop bombs with much greater precision.
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One of the key benefits is a much smaller crew and more automation.
 
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F14s and A-6 Intruders are amazing war birds.
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F-14 is such a great looking jet, and the A-6 also is such a capable attack plane with a range over 2x the Superhornet. I am really quite surprised the Navy got rid of it. Carriers now have to steam an extra 2 days to cover the loss of range before they can attack or use refueling.
 
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F-14 is such a great looking jet, and the A-6 also is such a capable attack plane with a range over 2x the Superhornet. I am really quite surprised the Navy got rid of it. Carriers now have to steam an extra 2 days to cover the loss of range before they can attack or use refueling.
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I didn't know that. Wow.

I take it you saw the movie Flight of the Intruder with Willem Dafoe and Danny Glover :)
 
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I'm envious! I've never seen a SR-71 in the air. Beautiful, beautiful aircraft. I did see one on the ground at U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville Alabama as a static display. It was smaller than I expected, very slender body and wings with two gigantic engines. I'm sure you all heard the story, but apparently on the ground it would leak fuel out of multiple seams, but as the aircraft heated-up everything would seal-up. I've always found it hard to believe, but it's documented everywhere:

http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/sr-71/
"In order for the SR-71 to fly the worldwide missions, it has a special fleet of modified KC-135Q tankers for refueling. SR-71s run on JP-7 fuel, that fills the six large tanks in the fuselage. The component parts of the Blackbird fit very loosely together to allow for expansion at high temperatures. At rest on the ground, fuel leaks out constantly, since the tanks in the fuselage and wings only seal at operating temperatures. There is little danger of fire since the JP-7 fuel is very stable with an extremely high flash point."
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Promo,

My friend told me he doesn't even know where to look for the negatives or prints of his pics of the Blackbird. I googled and the SR-71 appeared at the 1985 CNE Air Show!!!!!! (I can't believe that it was 30 years ago!!!!!!!!)

Here's the proof!

 
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The F35 is showing it’s promise

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And they are likely to get both unmanned refueling and fighter wingman....

Air Force offers glimpse of new, stealthy combat drone during first flight
 
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