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Op-Ed Contributor
The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

By CHARLES KURZMAN and DAVID SCHANZER
June 16, 2015

THIS month, the headlines were about a Muslim man in Boston who was accused of threatening police officers with a knife. Last month, two Muslims attacked an anti-Islamic conference in Garland, Tex. The month before, a Muslim man was charged with plotting to drive a truck bomb onto a military installation in Kansas. If you keep up with the news, you know that a small but steady stream of American Muslims, radicalized by overseas extremists, are engaging in violence here in the United States.

But headlines can mislead. The main terrorist threat in the United States is not from violent Muslim extremists, but from right-wing extremists. Just ask the police.

In a survey we conducted with the Police Executive Research Forum last year of 382 law enforcement agencies, 74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction; 39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations. And only 3 percent identified the threat from Muslim extremists as severe, compared with 7 percent for anti-government and other forms of extremism.

The self-proclaimed Islamic State’s efforts to radicalize American Muslims, which began just after the survey ended, may have increased threat perceptions somewhat, but not by much, as we found in follow-up interviews over the past year with counterterrorism specialists at 19 law enforcement agencies. These officers, selected from urban and rural areas around the country, said that radicalization from the Middle East was a concern, but not as dangerous as radicalization among right-wing extremists.

An officer from a large metropolitan area said that “militias, neo-Nazis and sovereign citizens” are the biggest threat we face in regard to extremism. One officer explained that he ranked the right-wing threat higher because “it is an emerging threat that we don’t have as good of a grip on, even with our intelligence unit, as we do with the Al Shabab/Al Qaeda issue, which we have been dealing with for some time.” An officer on the West Coast explained that the “sovereign citizen” anti-government threat has “really taken off,” whereas terrorism by American Muslim is something “we just haven’t experienced yet.”

Last year, for example, a man who identified with the sovereign citizen movement — which claims not to recognize the authority of federal or local government — attacked a courthouse in Forsyth County, Ga., firing an assault rifle at police officers and trying to cover his approach with tear gas and smoke grenades. The suspect was killed by the police, who returned fire. In Nevada, anti-government militants reportedly walked up to and shot two police officers at a restaurant, then placed a “Don’t tread on me” flag on their bodies. An anti-government extremist in Pennsylvania was arrested on suspicion of shooting two state troopers, killing one of them, before leading authorities on a 48-day manhunt. A right-wing militant in Texas declared a “revolution” and was arrested on suspicion of attempting to rob an armored car in order to buy weapons and explosives and attack law enforcement. These individuals on the fringes of right-wing politics increasingly worry law enforcement officials.

Law enforcement agencies around the country are training their officers to recognize signs of anti-government extremism and to exercise caution during routine traffic stops, criminal investigations and other interactions with potential extremists. “The threat is real,” says the handout from one training program sponsored by the Department of Justice. Since 2000, the handout notes, 25 law enforcement officers have been killed by right-wing extremists, who share a “fear that government will confiscate firearms” and a “belief in the approaching collapse of government and the economy.”

Despite public anxiety about extremists inspired by Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, the number of violent plots by such individuals has remained very low. Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

Other data sets, using different definitions of political violence, tell comparable stories. The Global Terrorism Database maintained by the Start Center at the University of Maryland includes 65 attacks in the United States associated with right-wing ideologies and 24 by Muslim extremists since 9/11. The International Security Program at the New America Foundation identifies 39 fatalities from “non-jihadist” homegrown extremists and 26 fatalities from “jihadist” extremists.

Meanwhile, terrorism of all forms has accounted for a tiny proportion of violence in America. There have been more than 215,000 murders in the United States since 9/11. For every person killed by Muslim extremists, there have been 4,300 homicides from other threats.

Public debates on terrorism focus intensely on Muslims. But this focus does not square with the low number of plots in the United States by Muslims, and it does a disservice to a minority group that suffers from increasingly hostile public opinion. As state and local police agencies remind us, right-wing, anti-government extremism is the leading source of ideological violence in America.
Correction: June 19, 2015

An Op-Ed article on Tuesday omitted the given name of a scholar of counterterrorism at West Point. He is Arie Perliger.

Charles Kurzman teaches sociology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. David Schanzer is director of the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security at Duke University.
 

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Where's the cut & paste crowd to put articles and pics proving that no really the "Mohammedan rabble" are the only threat? That these white folk are simply misunderstood or suffer psychiatric disorders.
 

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Bigger, really?

http://news.yahoo.com/global-terror...099.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb

Washington (AFP) - Islamic jihadists fuelled a huge spike in terror attacks last year with the global death toll soaring 81 percent in more than 1,100 assaults a month, the United States said Friday.

In total 32,727 people were killed compared to 17,800 in 2013, according to the figures prepared by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. A further 34,700 people were injured.

 

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Bigger, really?

http://news.yahoo.com/global-terror...099.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb

Washington (AFP) - Islamic jihadists fuelled a huge spike in terror attacks last year with the global death toll soaring 81 percent in more than 1,100 assaults a month, the United States said Friday.

In total 32,727 people were killed compared to 17,800 in 2013, according to the figures prepared by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. A further 34,700 people were injured.

Sorry but the facts are that Right Wing terror has killed more people in the USA since 9/11 and there definitely has been more attacks from them. Sovereign Citizens has something like 300,000 members across the US and the government are not paying enough attention to them.

Talking foreign policy is a different subject all on its own. Regional experts say that terrorism is growing because of imperial foreign policy like that of the Americans' is making the problem worse. Drone strikes, the wars, etc.
 

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Bigger, really?

http://news.yahoo.com/global-terror...099.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb

Washington (AFP) - Islamic jihadists fuelled a huge spike in terror attacks last year with the global death toll soaring 81 percent in more than 1,100 assaults a month, the United States said Friday.

In total 32,727 people were killed compared to 17,800 in 2013, according to the figures prepared by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. A further 34,700 people were injured.

Yes, but unlike you, and the geniuses that fund sheriff's departments in Buttfuck, Nowhere to buy tanks and shit to protect the local minigolf from ISIS, the writers of the op ed piece were looking at domestic terrorism. Oh, and applying logic.
 

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For white christian Americans, Jihadists ARE the bigger threat. For non-white Americans, yes, a lynching is more likely then a beheading.
 

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Yes, but unlike you, and the geniuses that fund sheriff's departments in Buttfuck, Nowhere to buy tanks and shit to protect the local minigolf from ISIS, the writers of the op ed piece were looking at domestic terrorism. Oh, and applying logic.
:thumb: Again though, we are dealing with a sub-culture that will not go away very soon.
 

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Sorry but the facts are that Right Wing terror has killed more people in the USA since 9/11 and there definitely has been more attacks from them. Sovereign Citizens has something like 300,000 members across the US and the government are not paying enough attention to them.

Talking foreign policy is a different subject all on its own. Regional experts say that terrorism is growing because of imperial foreign policy like that of the Americans' is making the problem worse. Drone strikes, the wars, etc.
Since 9/11 is an interesting period of time as the internal (Patriot Act) and external (two wars and massive drone and intelligence operations) policy changes caused by 9/11 have indeed curtailed foreign terrorism activity in the U.S.

Given the cost of the 1% incident by foreign terrorists (9/11, USS Cole, African Embassies, Lybia Embassy) and the relative incompetence of the red-neck bubba insurgence I think the focus is understandable - especially with the above global death numbers - roughly 10x in one year what the red-neck idiots have done in a decade (100x for Liberal Arts majors).
 

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I don't get the point of this article. The number of casualties resulting from these domestic attacks are so insignificant, yet, somehow, they are a major threat? Is this a Hollywood movie script where they substitute Islamists with white supremacists because they're afraid to offend?
 

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I don't get the point of this article. The number of casualties resulting from these domestic attacks are so insignificant, yet, somehow, they are a major threat? Is this a Hollywood movie script where they substitute Islamists with white supremacists because they're afraid to offend?
Pretty much, University Campasses in the U.S. make Hollywood look like white supremacists.
 

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Since 9/11 is an interesting period of time as the internal (Patriot Act) and external (two wars and massive drone and intelligence operations) policy changes caused by 9/11 have indeed curtailed foreign terrorism activity in the U.S.

Given the cost of the 1% incident by foreign terrorists (9/11, USS Cole, African Embassies, Lybia Embassy) and the relative incompetence of the red-neck bubba insurgence I think the focus is understandable - especially with the above global death numbers - roughly 10x in one year what the red-neck idiots have done in a decade (100x for Liberal Arts majors).
Its right wing foreign policy that has caused needless wars in the middle east which in turn has increased radicalization in the region. Also, ISIS was originally funded by the US government to fight Assad but they were kicked out of AL-Qaeda for being to radical. ISIS is using American made weapons and drone strikes are making more people join them.

Islamist terrorists are not a huge threat domestically in the fact that right wingers are, the FBI have been saying this for years. Bush actually put together a task force to look into these groups but Obama dismantled it cuz Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck were bitching.
 

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I don't get the point of this article. The number of casualties resulting from these domestic attacks are so insignificant, yet, somehow, they are a major threat? Is this a Hollywood movie script where they substitute Islamists with white supremacists because they're afraid to offend?
You must he a redneck. The article written in very simple literature and I question your high school diploma (if you have one) ,if you can't get it's basic premise.
 

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You must he a redneck. The article written in very simple literature and I question your high school diploma (if you have one) ,if you can't get it's basic premise.
You know, English is only my third language, but, with all due respect, I must question your grasp of it. You should substitute it's with its
"literature" does not really belong there and questioning a diploma is always problematic. On one count you're correct. I am a redneck-too much sun, I gather.
 

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DISGUSTING. An unspeakable hirrofic tragedy occurs and all the left can do is push their agenda.

Blame the person responsible...Not the gun. Unless you think the gn should be sent to trial as well?

The Canadian left no doubt had a field day with this...American Gun-Culture/The second amendment is uncivil etc.

Fuck You...Blow Me.
Typical response, from an American. As One of my good old American friend Rudy use to tell me, WE GOT BIGGER GUNS THAN YOU DO. The question becomes,
is that what a true humanistic society is based on ??
 

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You know, English is only my third language, but, with all due respect, I must question your grasp of it. You should substitute it's with its
"literature" does not really belong there and questioning a diploma is always problematic. On one count you're correct. I am a redneck-too much sun, I gather.



"Definitions of literature have varied over time, "it's a culturally relative definition."

Leitch et al., The Norton Anthology of Theory and Criticism, 28
 

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"Definitions of literature have varied over time, "it's a culturally relative definition."

Leitch et al., The Norton Anthology of Theory and Criticism, 28
Don't dish it out, if you cannot take it. I am addressing your jab at my "phantom" diploma, of course. If one decides to use that line of argumentation, he should strive to do so in a proper manner. You know, like, third grade English, at least?
 

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Don't dish it out, if you cannot take it. I am addressing your jab at my "phantom" diploma, of course. If one decides to use that line of argumentation, he should strive to do so in a proper manner. You know, like, third grade English, at least?
My shit was legible at least and you obviously know what I was saying. You do realize that most of us who are using phones to respond to these boards are victims to autocorrection. Oops, victim may not be the proper term for a grammar nazi like you.

If your gramnar and punctuation is so great, why can't you understand the basic premise of an op-ed written in what is close to "third grade level" English?

It seems like you can't take what's being dished out to you, my skin is as thick as an Elephant's.
 

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My shit was legible at least and you obviously know what I was saying. You do realize that most of us who are using phones to respond to these boards are victims to autocorrection. Oops, victim may not be the proper term for a grammar nazi like you.

If your gramnar and punctuation is so great, why can't you understand the basic premise of an op-ed written in what is close to "third grade level" English?

It seems like you can't take what's being dished out to you, my skin is as thick as an Elephant's.
What am I using to write this, a stone tablet and a fucking chisel? The article is nonsense. It gives a number of 254 victims in a span of over a decade in a country of over 300 million. A country with a high murder rate to begin with. Hating a government is not a crime. Belonging to an organization that encourages such feelings isn't a crime either. Acting on that feeling is. By the authors own numbers it is an extremally small percentage of the over all crime statistics. This is not the first time I came across this type of analysis, will not be the last. The argument is weak and it has no credible evidence in support. 254 violent deaths is a tragedy or a one summer in Chicago.
 
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