Tiananmen 2.0 in Hong Kong

whynot888 · Oct 18, 2019

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtb0h8U1gyQttps://

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ATO_roCP2BA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNAEOrRpRLE

This is just a handful of links in a matter of minutes. They gang up on women the elderley like wtf!? I guess your tainted and brainwashed as well. They destroy their home set up illegal road blocks and extort money. Fucking excuses, and you are just as dumb as they are. More than half the protestors have no clue what they are fighting for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eEyPGICzacw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk4P1oeItOA

whynot888 · Oct 18, 2019

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d4eiLQnfUqQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm2lXiY63mA

mmouse · Oct 18, 2019

Do you know the reasons for those attacks? No because those links don't explain it. So don't judge until you know the full story.

Insidious Von · Oct 18, 2019

mmouse said:
The reason why there are so many hk people with Canadian passports is simply because it's been the easiest 1st world country to immigrate to for decades.

Wrong, there is a link between Canada and Hong Kong that's almost 100 years old. During WWII, the British evacuated Hong Kong leaving the Canadians behind to make a last stand against Imperial Japanese forces.

The motherland concept does not apply either, would you consider Taiwan part of the motherland? Amalgamation is earned through merit, that doesn't apply to the Communists. Newfoundlanders were not forced to become part of Canada in 1949.

mmouse · Oct 18, 2019

Insidious Von said:
Wrong, there is a link between Canada and Hong Kong that's almost 100 years old. During WWII, the British evacuated Hong Kong leaving the Canadians behind to make a last stand against Imperial Japanese forces.

That's true but has nothing to do with recent immigration policy. Canada has the same rules no matter what country you are coming from. HK people don't choose Canada because Canadians helped out in WWII. If anything Canada kept them out with the head tax.

whynot888 · Oct 18, 2019

mmouse said:
do you know the reasons for those attacks? No because those links don't explain it. So don't judge until you know the full story.

discrimination!

oil&gas · Oct 18, 2019

mmouse said:
Do you know the reasons for those attacks? No because those links don't explain it. So don't judge until you know the full story.

You don't have to know the reason for all the rioting
if you happened to be one of those tourists getting
stuck in the airport during the rally. If not for the police
ban of rioters in the vicinity of the airport you would not
be able to leave. And you won't care for the reasons
for all the attacks if you were one of the victims. That
include myriads of people whose livelihood depends
on the business targetted by the rioters as well as commuters
who found the traffic lights or subway stations on their
routine routes damaged. And sooner or later even
the people who are sympathetic towards the rioters
wouldn't want to know what the reasons for the attacks
were if the rampage carries on with no end in sight.
For the PRC would be 'forced' to take over HK for real this time
and turn one-country-two-systems into one-country-one-system.
The rioters will find out fighting HK police is like a cakewalk
in comparison to fighting the guard of the communists.

mmouse · Oct 18, 2019

Who gives a fuck about tourists and foreigners at the airport. It's their country, stay out if you don't like the inconvenience. A family's future is more important than any holiday or business trip. As for local businesses getting trashed, public support for the protests has actually increased in the past 4 months, so really us outsiders should mind our own business. What is happening there is not the actions of a few rebels, it's an uprising of the people.

oil&gas · Oct 18, 2019

....so really us outsiders should mind our own business. ...

Does Donald Trump count as an outsider? There
are protestors who openly invite Trump to liberate
HK. Seems like those protestors would disagree
with you.

Obviously Trump would take advantage of the
situation for the trade negotiation with China.
Of course Trump won't give a rat's ass to the
wish of some treasonous foreign protestors
for democracy if Xi makes nice with him.

WyattEarp · Oct 18, 2019

I will try not to lose my temper. China is a totalitarian regime. You do not know how anyone in Hong Kong actually feels about the protests.

The Chinese will punish anyone (and has) with any kind of leverage they have. Business people can't publicly support the protests. That's why the protesters are the people who have the least to lose.

When Hong Kong has its next elections we will see how they feel. That's presuming China doesn't interfere with the process. It's more than likely the Chinese will stifle any dissent vote in a major way.

Just be thankful you live in a free country.

whynot888 · Oct 18, 2019

mmouse said:
Who gives a fuck about tourists and foreigners at the airport. It's their country, stay out if you don't like the inconvenience. A family's future is more important than any holiday or business trip. As for local businesses getting trashed, public support for the protests has actually increased in the past 4 months, so really us outsiders should mind our own business. What is happening there is not the actions of a few rebels, it's an uprising of the people.

Thats why its so fucked up cause they think the same way as you! And no, public support did not increase, the violence did. Oh and those 5 demands...what a fucking joke!
Just excuses and excuses. This extradition law started because of that idiot who killed his pregnant girlfriend while they were in taiwan and hong kong cant do shit because of that loophole in the system. Imagine how the victims family feels, oh yea thats right - colateral damage. Smh

whynot888 · Oct 18, 2019

WyattEarp said:
I will try not to lose my temper. China is a totalitarian regime. You do not know how anyone in Hong Kong actually feels about the protests.

The Chinese will punish anyone (and has) with any kind of leverage they have. Business people can't publicly support the protests. That's why the protesters are the people who have the least to lose.

When Hong Kong has its next elections we will see how they feel. That's presuming China doesn't interfere with the process. It's more than likely the Chinese will stifle any dissent vote in a major way.

Just be thankful you live in a free country.

HelloooOoo....bussiness people are not supporting cause these morons are fucking up their bussiness!

wilbur · Oct 19, 2019

whynot888 said:
HelloooOoo....bussiness people are not supporting cause these morons are fucking up their bussiness!

Something like 4 million mainlanders visit HK every year. Now, because of these students, it's down to a trickle and the hospitality industry is suffering greately. Apparently, 40% of hotel workers have been laid off.

Foreign banks and other foreign corporations are moving to Singapore. There is now a glut of commercial real-estate in HK, that is driving down prices. That will start affecting residential real estate. You can bet that many of those 300,000 Canadians living in HK are going to want to dump their condos before the price crashes, and move to Canada again.

The irony in all this, is that when the HK economy is hit big time, and many people start losing their jobs, they'll be moving to the mainland for jobs, the very place those students want to avoid. Taiwan's economy isn't doing so well right now, but for different reasons; it's a place with 26 million people and 2 million Taiwanese live and work on the mainland.

The protests are clearly counter productive; they are precipitating the end of the one country two systems prematurely if China cracks down and takes over control. They are clearly driven by outside forces, the ones with lots of cash to stir things up, and simply for geopolitical gain. After they've achieved some objectives and can go no further, the protesters, who have been driven by unachievable expectationsk, will simply be dumped, just like the US just dumped the Kurds when US policy changed and they had no use for them anymore. They stired up Ukraine in 2014, and that's brought them civil war, loss of territory, the worst corruption in the world and a significantly lower standard of living, all in the service of US geopolitics as the US moves NATO ever closer to Russia with their weapons of mass destruction.

wilbur · Oct 19, 2019

WyattEarp said:
I will try not to lose my temper. China is a totalitarian regime. You do not know how anyone in Hong Kong actually feels about the protests.

The Chinese will punish anyone (and has) with any kind of leverage they have. Business people can't publicly support the protests. That's why the protesters are the people who have the least to lose.

When Hong Kong has its next elections we will see how they feel. That's presuming China doesn't interfere with the process. It's more than likely the Chinese will stifle any dissent vote in a major way.

Just be thankful you live in a free country.

Democracy in Canada occurs generally one day every 4 years. In between, it's an oligarchy.

Just about no country on earth elects their head of government directly by universal sufferage. In the British parliamentary system, the head of government is the leader of the party that wins the most seats; vobody botes directly for the PM. In the US, it's the Electoral College that elects the President. The HK protestors are demanding something that is not common in the world, that of the election of an individual as head of government elected by universal sufferage. They are clearly being brainwashed, very likely through social media. Oh and when China cracks down, they will lose that too to the Chinese equivalent, where if you have more than 500 followers, you get a visit from the political police.

mmouse · Oct 19, 2019

whynot888 said:
And no, public support did not increase

There's a poll showing this, which I can't find right now, but this shows opinion has remained mostly constant:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...-public-opinion-polling-support-a9158061.html

Another one:
http://theconversation.com/new-rese...rotesters-support-more-radical-tactics-122531

I guess you're a 大陸人 so I'm sorry for you, because hkers truly hate you.

hoorawr · Oct 19, 2019

The CIA is for sure in on this

JackBurton · Oct 19, 2019

wilbur said:
Something like 4 million mainlanders visit HK every year. Now, because of these students, it's down to a trickle and the hospitality industry is suffering greately. Apparently, 40% of hotel workers have been laid off.

Foreign banks and other foreign corporations are moving to Singapore. There is now a glut of commercial real-estate in HK, that is driving down prices. That will start affecting residential real estate. You can bet that many of those 300,000 Canadians living in HK are going to want to dump their condos before the price crashes, and move to Canada again.

The irony in all this, is that when the HK economy is hit big time, and many people start losing their jobs, they'll be moving to the mainland for jobs, the very place those students want to avoid. Taiwan's economy isn't doing so well right now, but for different reasons; it's a place with 26 million people and 2 million Taiwanese live and work on the mainland.

The protests are clearly counter productive; they are precipitating the end of the one country two systems prematurely if China cracks down and takes over control. They are clearly driven by outside forces, the ones with lots of cash to stir things up, and simply for geopolitical gain. After they've achieved some objectives and can go no further, the protesters, who have been driven by unachievable expectationsk, will simply be dumped, just like the US just dumped the Kurds when US policy changed and they had no use for them anymore. They stired up Ukraine in 2014, and that's brought them civil war, loss of territory, the worst corruption in the world and a significantly lower standard of living, all in the service of US geopolitics as the US moves NATO ever closer to Russia with their weapons of mass destruction.

I agree 100%

Beijing will back off in a bit, let things die down and when that happens all the banks will GTFO of HK. Then when no one expects it, Beijing will crush HK out of nothing but hubris.

I had a chance to spend a lot of time in HK. All my expat friends are in the process of getting out. It was a beautiful city and it will be missed on the world stage.

oil&gas · Oct 19, 2019

JackBurton said:
Beijing will back off in a bit, let things die down and when that happens all the banks will GTFO of HK. Then when no one expects it, Beijing will crush HK out of nothing but hubris.

Beijing would just play into the hands of the rioters by
sending an army into HK to crush the uprising when
foreign intervention is the ultimate goal of the rioting.
The communist regime is not as reckless as it is brutal.
Without Hong Kong its role as the international financial hub
of China cannot (yet) be replicated anywhere in the mainland.
Besides there is a lot of corruption money of mainland government
officials hidden away in HK for them to want to see it destroyed.
China will take its time to prepare for its intrusion. One possible
prerequisite to an invasion would be to find a way to lure police officials,
who are already most hated by rioters, away to the greater bay
area first. HK police force would be a great asset to Guangdong.
PRC will also see to it that the U.S. has no interest to take
over HK as wished by the rioters.
When PRC decides that HK holds little value as a special
administrative region they will be ready to crack down.
Rioting students will likely spend a good part of their
life in some concentration camp for re-education. That
is if they have survived the bullets of the red army. Upon
their release their hostility towards the communist
will be replaced by a reverence for the party's ideology.

bornonaug9 · Oct 19, 2019

The playbook of targetting the airport and subways (transportation hubs) used by HK rioters is now deployed by Chilean rioters and Catalonia's separatists. This is the future tactics of protesters against government.

whynot888 · Oct 19, 2019

mmouse said:
There's a poll showing this, which I can't find right now, but this shows opinion has remained mostly constant:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...-public-opinion-polling-support-a9158061.html

Another one:
http://theconversation.com/new-rese...rotesters-support-more-radical-tactics-122531

I guess you're a 大陸人 so I'm sorry for you, because hkers truly hate you.

Nope, both my parents are from hong kong and i was born and raise here (cbc). accept the truth dumbass, this protest (riot) is not even about freedom or democracy because those 5 demands yall pushing for has nothing to do with what your fighting for. It is more pride than anything, you discriminating fucks hate china so bad and poke fun of them, like what you said "dai lok jai", which means chinaman. Wake up dude, hong kong is china and you my friend arent any different "dai look yun"!

Tiananmen 2.0 in Hong Kong

OG

OG

Posts: 10,000000

My head is my home

Posts: 10,000000

OG

Well-known member

Posts: 10,000000

Well-known member

Well-known member

OG

OG

Active member

Active member

Posts: 10,000000

Active member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Member

OG