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Sex workers protest in Toronto against proposed legislation

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Dozens of people touting red umbrellas and signs that read “Someone I love is a sex worker” and “Decriminalize sex work, save lives” gathered in downtown Toronto on Saturday afternoon as part of nationwide rallies held to protest the federal government’s proposed new legislation governing sex work.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay unveiled the bill earlier this month after the Supreme Court struck down Canada’s old laws governing sex work in December 2013 that prohibited brothels, communicating with potential clients and “living off the avails” of prostitution.

The proposed new rules seek to put an end to the sex trade by targeting those who purchase or profit from sex work, while casting sex workers as largely victims. It’s met fierce resistance from sex workers and their advocates.
Jean McDonald, executive director of Maggie’s Toronto Sex Workers Action Project, said stipulations in the bill that criminalize selling sex in public, advertising services online and benefiting from the sale of sex would endanger sex workers by forcing them to even more isolated, marginalized areas.

“In many ways, this legislation is a gift to sexual predators,” said McDonald, wearing a Maggie’s T-shirt that reads “It’s been a business doing pleasure with you” across the back. “It means they can’t work in groups to watch out for one another and say, ‘I’ll be back in half an hour.’ And people who would do women harm, who would do sex workers harm, will know this.”

McDonald accused the federal government of “spitting in the face” of the Supreme Court ruling, which held that Canada’s laws put sex workers at risk by making it illegal for them to, for example, hire a security guard or pre-screen a client.
The federal government has insisted the bill will include programs to help sex workers exit the trade, contending that the “vast majority” do not sell sex by choice.
Christa Big Canoe, the legal director of Aboriginal Legal Services of Toronto, said the proposed law is too similar to those that were struck down.
“The proposed law has the potential to cause harm to the most vulnerable,” she said.

Well over 50 people gathered in the southeast corner of Allan Gardens on Sherbourne St. on Saturday afternoon as part of what was touted as a national day of action, with similar rallies held in cities across Canada.
Following speeches, a dance act and spoken word performance, protesters marched into the intersection of Sherbourne and Gerrard St. E. to stage a “die-in” and hold a moment of silence for those sex workers who have disappeared or been killed.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201..._in_toronto_against_proposed_legislation.html
 

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Why do so many still think that the majority of sex workers are doing such work against their free will? Even many of the pimped girls aren't participating against their own will.
 

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Why do so many still think that the majority of sex workers are doing such work against their free will? Even many of the pimped girls aren't participating against their own will.

Read this http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicat...599932&Language=&Mode=1&Parl=39&Ses=1&File=12

See "survival sex", etc. it's very cleverly spun. And, frankly, if you've talked to some girls around here, not entirely without basis. How many girls got into the biz because it was the quickest way out of a hole? Because her man left her? Her kids? Because he racked up a shitload of debt and couldn't pay it off?

I guess joy smith and her friends would say that it's not free choice to be exploited, so let's not make it choice at all.
 
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WHO THINKS UP THESE RALLIES...... WTF??!!! On a SATURDAY???? & of all places ALLEN GARDENS ..... Give me a brake!!! You could not have thought up a better way to get the LEAST AMOUNT OF ATTENTION. ..... How about on a WORK DAY ...... & in front of a government building like the Old City Hall court house ( COURTS ) ..... or city hall. BUT BETTER YET ..... on the Lawn at Parliament Hill were the Bill-36 has been presented ...... GEEZ :frusty:
 

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How many girls got into the biz because it was the quickest way out of a hole? Because her man left her? Her kids? Because he racked up a shitload of debt and couldn't pay it off?
Absolute rubbish designed to selectively remove freedom of choice based on moral issues. How many single women work Walmart or countless other minimum paid part & full time jobs because she needs the money ? How many people are employed (aka exploited) not because they love to come to work every day but must to pay the mortgage, food, etc ?

If the Conservatives were so concerned about the 'exploited' workers, why not support minimum wage increases ? It is a shallow excuse to cover the basic desire to remove freedom of choice of consenting adults based on moral issues and is no different than earlier legislation directed against gays. It is easier to repress freedoms that have a social stigma against it and that is what this gutless Nazi fanatical government is determined to do.
 

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It is usually pretty obvious who is being pimped out, often they are barely legal age, working in shitty areas and there is usually at least one guy very near by. The girl is jumpy and nervous, usually show obvious signs of drug addiction, bruises, less hygiene friendly, in lower rent cases it is often "car play" in locations near the pimp. Westway/martin grove parking lot saw a lot of this action last summer. It was sad and heart breaking. This is what the Bill is supposedly targeting but in reality it will have zero effect on these groups. If you really want to avoid seeing pimped out girls stop calling the 19 year olds off BP and you are probably pretty safe.

So tell us what the truth is about the pimp/girl relationship.
 

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let us know when you've made the arrangements and post an announcement on the boards. We will be there.

Pardon my rudeness, but I'm frankly sick and tired of your bitching and moaning when you haven't done a goddam thing to help. Did you attend the rally? Have you supported Maggie's with a financial donation? Why not do something to help instead of criticizing those who ARE??? Good grief.
Exactly- this is the second year in a row i have missed this rally- more notice next time pls ;)
 

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This is what the Bill is supposedly targeting but in reality it will have zero effect on these groups.
Well said. No law will stop people who aren't afraid to break the law (as there are already existing laws that govern pimps and human trafficking). This nuclear bomb C-36 Bill will only make criminals of otherwise law abiding citizens (shit, I sound like a gunowner).
 

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We clients have to help and show up. They are now asking for supporters to show support. there's at least 100 times as many of us as there are sex workers.
I too get mad when i see people critical of those who actually try something. (including of the bedford gang) The red umbrella troups yesterday did get a tone of coverage.
I saw it all over facebook and twitter and on TV on CTV in BARRIE! Thats mass coverage. It is on again today.
Write your MPs. Get a red umbrella. Write to Mackay. Whatever.
 

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Why do so many still think that the majority of sex workers are doing such work against their free will? Even many of the pimped girls aren't participating against their own will.
They are ill informed, but "dozens" doesn't help with that.
 

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Why do so many still think that the majority of sex workers are doing such work against their free will? Even many of the pimped girls aren't participating against their own will.
That's the reasoning that get's public sympathy/support the most.

Infringement of a woman's right to use her body as she so pleases is one they ignore.

Our laws have a basis in Biblical mores and values no doubt and these are imposed on everyone regardless of faith.

By persecuting these women in this way though, they are actually going against Biblical teachings.
 

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The girl is jumpy and nervous, usually show obvious signs of drug addiction, bruises, less hygiene friendly, in lower rent cases it is often "car play" in locations near the pimp. Westway/martin grove parking lot saw a lot of this action last summer. It was sad and heart breaking.
Be careful what you post in a public forum Jasmina, DoFo is not a pleasant man to deal with.

And we are doing something about it. Within the year Julian Fantino will announce that he is not running for re-election. If he does so he's a chuch.
 

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With Justin as leader, Julan Fantino stands no chance of re-election.

Justin visited D'Aversa Bakery a few years before he became Lib Leader. He got a bigger turnout than Gennaro Gattuso and Federico Castellucio combined.

The former was part of Italy's 2006 WC winning team and the later....

 
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let us know when you've made the arrangements and post an announcement on the boards. We will be there.

Pardon my rudeness, but I'm frankly sick and tired of your bitching and moaning when you haven't done a goddam thing to help. Did you attend the rally? Have you supported Maggie's with a financial donation? Why not do something to help instead of criticizing those who ARE??? Good grief.
I do NOT have the connections to all or most S.P to gather participants. I am not in that business. Those ORGANIZATIONS who are ........ I say again ..... I am BAFFLED as to WHY they would organize on a DAY & PLACE that would Guarantee the LEAST amount of attention!!! I have ALOT of relatives in the States involved in Lobbiest & Special interest groups. I know ...... it is not JUST what you say & do ...... But also WHEN & WERE
 

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I do NOT have the connections to all or most S.P to gather participants. I am not in that business. Those ORGANIZATIONS who are ........ I say again ..... I am BAFFLED as to WHY they would organize on a DAY & PLACE that would Guarantee the LEAST amount of attention!!! I have ALOT of relatives in the States involved in Lobbiest & Special interest groups. I know ...... it is not JUST what you say & do ...... But also WHEN & WERE
You're an agency operator who will be directly affected by the bill, but I suspect you have a problem with these women or you wouldn't be criticizing their demonstration and you'd be offering help. You even sneak on here to promote your place without paying, shows how you aren't too savvy.
 

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WHO THINKS UP THESE RALLIES...... WTF??!!! On a SATURDAY???? & of all places ALLEN GARDENS ..... Give me a brake!!! You could not have thought up a better way to get the LEAST AMOUNT OF ATTENTION. ..... How about on a WORK DAY ...... & in front of a government building like the Old City Hall court house ( COURTS ) ..... or city hall. BUT BETTER YET ..... on the Lawn at Parliament Hill were the Bill-36 has been presented ...... GEEZ :frusty:
I went to the Red Umbrella rally last year, also at Allans Gardens. It's a good place for this sort of demo, the police watch but don't interfere, so they can have their say and get media coverage. They don't ask for or expect clients to take part, since the organizers' focus is only on sex workers.
A small group would get swallowed up in Nathan Philips Square and barely be noticed, or be 'asked' to leave by security. There's no room in front of old City Hall.

In answer to your first question, "WHO THINKS UP THESE RALLIES...WTF?!!!!!!"
The answer is Maggies.
http://maggiestoronto.ca/


So if you're serious about setting up a rally at a better time, or anything else, you need to get involved and stay involved with that org. Or if can't contribute with your time, they also take cash :wink:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...rkers-with-maggie-s-sex-worker-action-toronto
 
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I went to the Red Umbrella rally last year, also at Allans Gardens. It's a good place for this sort of demo, the police watch but don't interfere, so they can have their say and get media coverage. They don't ask for or expect clients to take part, since the organizers' focus is only on sex workers.
A small group would get swallowed up in Nathan Philips Square and barely be noticed, or be 'asked' to leave by security. There's no room in front of old City Hall.

In answer to your first question, "WHO THINKS UP THESE RALLIES...WTF?!!!!!!"
The answer is Maggies.
http://maggiestoronto.ca/


So if you're serious about setting up a rally at a better time, or anything else, you need to get involved and stay involved with that org. Or if can't contribute with your time, they also take cash :wink:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...rkers-with-maggie-s-sex-worker-action-toronto
These Girls ( Maggies ) are Male Agency owners HATERS!!! They do NOT want our involvement. It is a democratic right to be able to PEACFULLY demonstrate on Public grounds & this includes ALL Government spaces as long as not obstructing traffic or access to buildings. A work day in front of Fed court House or Parliament building in Ottawa best. Infront of Peter McKay's office good too.
 
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