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LOTTO MAX is a new lottery game available to Canadians nationwide starting Saturday, September 19, 2009.

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http://is.gd/1Arxv
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LOTTO MAX Prize Structure:

48% of LOTTO MAX draw sales are dedicated to the Prize Fund. The total amount of $20 and Free Play prizes are paid from the Prize Fund and the balance of the fund (The Pools Fund) is then allocated between the 5/7, 6/7, 6/7 + Bonus and 7/7 prize categories as indicated in the table below.

If there is more than one winner in a prize category above the $20 prize tier, the prize in that category will be shared among the winners in that category. A winning set of numbers entitles a winner to a prize in only one of the prize categories:

Match 7/7 $10M-$50M - (87% of pool fund)
Match 6/7 + bonus - 4% of pool fund
Match 6/7 - 4% of pool fund
Match 5/7 - 5% of pool fund
Match 4/7 - $20
Match 3/7 + bonus - $20
Match 3/7 - Free Play
 
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abstinent said:
i think im one of the few that wants more easier small prize games.

hows keno coming along?
im playing pick 4 lately, box won 3times, and got 3out4(means nothing, but working on it) straight pick once. i find it easier than keno for me.

good luck, cheers
I think the cost of a ticket for Lotto Max starts at $5.00 ?

Also there are 49 numbers in the new game, compared to 47 for Super 7.
I don't think Lotto Max is much of an improvement on Super 7.
Nothing from Keno lately, I have only been playing once or twice a week.
This weekend I might go through the Keno stats and give it a good shot.
 

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azstraph said:
$5 per play? Are they nucking futs?

I'm more likely to skip playing this one. Somehow I think this started going downhill when Lotto 6/49 was made a $2 play. I prefer the old $1 play if you ask me.

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http://www.bclc.com/app/AboutBCLC/newsReleases.asp?NewsID=765
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1.Draws will be held on Friday nights, starting with the first draw on September 25
2.Players will receive three chances to win (seven numbers each) per $5 play
3.In order to win the jackpot, players must match 7/7 numbers (from one to 49)
 

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azstraph said:
$5 per play? Are they nucking futs?

I'm more likely to skip playing this one. Somehow I think this started going downhill when Lotto 6/49 was made a $2 play. I prefer the old $1 play if you ask me.
I totally agree. When that first 50+ million jackpot was won, people started losing their heads. Apparently, the lottery corporations polled people about how they felt about larger prizes, and 'players' were for it. Personally, I think that any realistic player would prefer the jackpot had stayed at it base 2 million jackpot for $1 dollar.
If this game is five dollars, then count me out. 6/49 is tough enough (and even at $2 the most fair multi-million dollar bet; but don't tell the OLG I said that) and to add another number for the extra $3, doesn't entice me one bit. I haven't looked over the prize structure, but it is unlikely that it will change my opinion.
 
The Lotto folks are smart, they are not stupid. They want to sell the majority of their tickets for more money, (take out Wintario $1, bring 6/49 to $2, fuck everyone up on Encore, take out Super 7 and bring in Lotto Max for $5 and leave Ontario 49 for the 50 cents players) I am so surprised Lottario is still around.


Now about Lotto Max, notice they'll give you 3 lines for a chance to win for $5

I have secretly developed a system that I win every game, I will share it with you but you have to promise me you won't tell a single soul.

Here is the detail....every Wed, Fri and Sat I don't buy one single ticket from the big 4 Lottos and I saved $2.50 on Wed, $2 on Friday, and $3.50 on Saturday. If I add all the Encores and Pro-line, Keno, Payday, Pick 3 and 4...then I have saved up approx. $60 per week. That is the money OLG cannot get from me, thus I win every game. The only catch is that now I cannot go up to the pretty little lady at the Lotto booth and hear the bells ring on the lotto machine saying "WINNER!!! FREE TICKET"
 

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Lotto Max is a rip off.
The odds of winning is the same as Super7 ...1 in 28 million. It cost $5 for a ticket with one extra line. You win $20 if you match 4 numbers. ...so minus the $5, you actually win $15. ...TOTAL RIP OFF.

I want to see 50 people winning one million dollar each than one person winning 50 million.
 

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Lotto Max is a rip off.
The odds of winning is the same as Super7 ...1 in 28 million. It cost $5 for a ticket with one extra line. You win $20 if you match 4 numbers. ...so minus the $5, you actually win $15. ...TOTAL RIP OFF.

I want to see 50 people winning one million dollar each than one person winning 50 million.
Odds are actually worse than Super 7.

Super 7 is 1 in 20.9 million.

Lotto Max is 1 in 28.6 million.
 

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right on, somebody wants the same thing, I totally agree. I want to see 50 people winning 1 million each. Doubt that will ever happen


Lotto Max is a rip off.
The odds of winning is the same as Super7 ...1 in 28 million. It cost $5 for a ticket with one extra line. You win $20 if you match 4 numbers. ...so minus the $5, you actually win $15. ...TOTAL RIP OFF.

I want to see 50 people winning one million dollar each than one person winning 50 million.
 

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They should have just tweaked the Super 7.

Now we have a lottery that costs more - with worse odds.

Just watch within 6-8 years, the minimum lottery ticket will be $2.00.

I hav'nt played the 649 since the price increase. I play lottario (best bang for your buck, IMHO) only when it begins to build, though.

They should have a rule, that the maximum amount 1 lottery ticket can win is $10 million. So for example, if one person wins an $18 million jackpot, he only gets $10 million, and the other $8 million is divided between the other prize categories (say give 5/6+b $1m, and so on...).

In the last 2-3 years Ive really begin to question the OLG.
 
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I wish they had a lottery where the prizes are maxed at $500 000, that is enough to buy a nice house and lay back and take it easy and retire at 55 or earlier.:D
 

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In May 2004 - The price of Lotto 649 was increased from $1 to $2 per ticket.
Along with that increase, the advertising was that Jackpots would start at $5 Million because of the increase....sound familiar?? now its...$3.5 Million..wtf
Now with Lotto Max... ( Price increase to $5 for three lines....also harder odds 7/49 not 7/47)
The bottom line is that - 87% of pool fund - 48% of LOTTO MAX draw sales - (they keep 52% - this is the biggest ever crime) go towards the Jackpot prize..so when ticket sales start to die down just like they did after 649 upped the price... the 87% will be less than $10 Million..... they will start advertising the Jackpot prize as 9 Million...8.5....etc..... they will not keep their word to maintain the $10 million starting point....

I would like to start a pool here on terb...guess the date that the Jackpot drops below $10 Million for LottoMax....
My guess is May 5 2010....


BTW.. everytime they make changes to games the changes either result in more to be paid by the player...or less payouts to the player.... from my inside contact... planned changes for 2010 early 2011 games...

Lotto 649 - 2 lines -$5
Lottario - 3 lines $2 - min jackpot $500K
Ontario 49 - 2 lines $1 - no 50c - changed when the change 6/49 - next June not final

Payday
Draw 2 sets of winning numbers (4) weekly
1 - $2000 week 4 life - 3 numbers lesser payout $20 2 numbers $2
1 - $1000 week 4
Tickets $2 - reduced lines per $2 ticket

Pick 4 - Pick 3 - adding a extra choice to Play sums - ie 475 winner - sum winner is 4+7+5 = 16 -winning sum. additional $1 to play sum ticket prize TBD
 

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[b]Now with Lotto Max... ( Price increase to $5 for three lines....also harder odds 7/49 not 7/47)[/b]
Lotto Maxx was very poorly conceived, I suspect it will be withdrawn
or modified within a year or two due to lack of support.
 

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The bottom line with any change in the future will be that all online games will ask the buyer to pay more to receive extra quick pick lines.... it was even proposed that Pick 3 pick 4 and Daily Keno increase base price while offering additional QP lines..but their survey feedback came back really really bad to touch the $1 price on the daily games.. they will add the $2, $5, $10 options to have it on all daily game input slips with next printing change next year
 

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The bottom line with any change in the future will be that all online games will ask the buyer to pay more to receive extra quick pick lines.... it was even proposed that Pick 3 pick 4 and Daily Keno increase base price while offering additional QP lines..but their survey feedback came back really really bad to touch the $1 price on the daily games.. they will add the $2, $5, $10 options to have it on all daily game input slips with next printing change next year
That would be a disaster. The attraction of Keno and other dailies is the $1 base price
combined with relatively decent odds of winning.

they will add the $2, $5, $10 options to have it on all daily game input slips with next printing change next year
I don't understand. All the dailies have always had $2, $5. $10 options (wager amt)
 

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My humble suggestions....

JohnFK said:
I bought my Lotto Maxx tickets already.Noooo..... don't encourage them.

Why in the world would they get rid of Super 7?
The jackpot odds were not great, and the return on smaller 'wins' were too low. So they replaced it with a worse game under the guise of larger jackpots. At this point we might as well have a $5 Powerball like the US.

So Lotto Maxx is on Saturdays?
Friday
I've one some money with Encore but is it really worth it?
Nope. Spend the dollar on Keno, or Lottario, but avoid PayDay.

I've got to cut back on something and Encore would be a starting point.
Yup. Better on Keno, or the extra $1 on 6/49. I suggest pocketing the dough.
 
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its starting to get stupid. 1 in over 28mil chance? as if 1 in 18mil for 649 isnt bad enough....

i watched a lady throw 50 bucks down to the lottery the other day. she was driving a shit box. they really need to just keep it simple at 2 bucks......given u play twice a week on the 649...u only get 2 lines and lotto max gives u 3 for 5 bucks...it really all ends up being about the same at the end of the day. though i think lotto max is slightly juicing u more. like im still going to play the lottery. for a few bucks for a small chance...eh...aint bad...u nvr know. but when u start dropping stupid money every week...its gets bad. imagine that lady who dropped 50bucks that day. it could mean that she drops like $200 a month...just hoping she gets lucky...she might as well save the $200 a month for retirement.
 

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50bucks that day. it could mean that she drops like $200 a month...just hoping she gets lucky...she might as well save the $200 a month for retirement
Perhaps she was buying the tickets for a group. Keep in mind
if you hang out at patios every weekend drinking a few cold ones that could cost you just as much or more ! Maybe gambling is all she does for
entertainment. The chance she might win big, however remote, is her fix.
 
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