MarkII said:
Thats a lot of time.
I have to wonder..and this is not meant as a personal attack...with that amount of time invested...why did you stay? Without being promoted upward...what was the motivation to remain?
For me personally..no promotion when I know my work is top rate...I'm gone.
It sounds like you were punting for the pension and got booted before it came into effect.
As I said this is not an attack..but i often wonder why people stay in jobs for 16 years with no promotion. Is it not apparent that if they have not promoted you, you're the first to go in cutbacks?
M2
Who said I never got promoted? I worked on 5 different project teams over a period of 16 years. I left as a Project Leader, when there was a major shake up and ALL of our Business Analyst were given the boot. Too much wasted money, bad decisions, in-fighting and favouritism. Senior management got promoted up and out before their decisions would be shown as questionable.
I had one boss who insisted that a project I had originally scoped as being done in 1.5 years to be done in 1 year. After the staff cuts and changes to what we would deliver she got promoted up and out after 6 months. Our clients did a through review of what would now be delivered, said it was unacceptable, went back to my original design and project plan, and I delived on time and budget against my original design. By giving my clients what that needed, I kept my job and saved the jobs of those working for me.
Couldn't stomach it any longer and when offered to opportunity to leave with a VERY nice package, I took it. I've worked in the IT field for IBM and then TD and CIBC for over 20 years. Now depending on the type of job you do, YOU DON'T WANT a promotion. I was happiest as a PROGRAMMER, didn't like to review and possibly fire staff because I had worked shoulder to shoulder with a lot of people for years. Canadian Banks were the best places to do business and to work for when they had staff that cared, that stayed on the job because they wanted to make a difference for their customers and "the bank". They started to go down hill when that short sighted asswholes who were there only to line their own pockets got in positions of influence. It use to be that the CEO originally started out humbly as a Teller fresh out of High-School. That kind of dedication is going by the way side. It's someone who is only there as a steping stone in their resume. Do you think ENRON would have happened to a career Banker, it happen when you had a Stock Broker running the show. $3,000,000.000 was lost by the CIBC and shareholders for the bonus they made. And who do you think will have to pay for that "little boo boo"? The staff and customers left behind. Canadian Banks became the envy of the world because they realized they were just custodians of other peoples money, their hopes and dreams. Now they've evolved to the point where they have the opnion that it's their money, and you have no right to it.
You stay with a company because of the people you work with, and incidently how well you get paid. Being in IT meant for the most part that I got paid quite well. Still do.
Canadian Banks MAKE MONEY because you have no where else to go. I have a cousin working for TD/Canada Trust and she couldn't go to her aunts furneal because it was as aunt by marriage, i.e. her husbands, mother's sister. Now how FUCKED is that?