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Heather

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Through out history there's always been varying levels of SP's, from the common street walker to those educated and specialised in the trade, such as temple preistesses, geishas and courtesans of the wealthy.

Since in those times there often was not what anyone would refer to as a middle class, the line of distinction between of what separated the common hooker from the courtesan was always very clear. These days, you can find everything from the $10 crack addict to ladies who charge thousands per hour and more. Most interestingly, is that there is every price in between now, not just one or the other.

Now I have met ladies from every level of trade, from the street walker to those who charge 4 and 5 digits. It's well known the type of service one can expect from a street worker. Usually a quick encounter in a car or some dark corner and they're gone.
Then there are the massage places and then the escorts. As the price moves up so does the expectations of the service. So how does the service change as one moves up the scale?

Understandably, one would expect a near perfect appearence and a GFE from the provider, impecably dressed to look the part, perhaps she's a bit of a celebrity such as a pornstar, but is there anything else? Does anyone really pick up special skills for the trade anymore? Any suggestions as to what would be useful for a modern day courtesan to learn?
 

Heather

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I just want to becareful that this thread does not denegrate into another debate whether higher priced ladies are worth the price difference. I think that has been rehashed to death on the boards.

Dr.Wanker, I'm sorry you found the extra dollars did not bring you extra pleasure.

Benrath, you mentioned social graces. Do you think that charm school, as they used to call it, would be a worthwhile pursuit for the working ladies?

Other ideas would be things like special types of massage, tantra, keigel exersizes?
 

gramage

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modern day escorts bare very little resemblence to any of their past incarnations such as courtesans or Giesha's. for one thing a courtesan was paid for a month of service, and was kept by a single man for that time, and often longer (some were kept until the mans death), and that womans only responsibility was his pleasure. not like any escort I've heard of.
 
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josie

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Hi!
I'd just like to mention this reads very nicely.I had to respond with something.
I think this is one of my" job" goals.It's very hard to judge if we are doing it well.If we are too good at we risk that very thin line between girlfriend and paid friend.Not good enough and we are not taken seriously.It's touchy...very.And then what if you or they fall in love?...mmm
Here's just some thoughts i have....
I think it's important to be able to make him feel like he is the center of things when your together.Also,anticipate ways to keep the visits nonstressfull and upbeat.Knowing how to be a good friend comes in handy as well.A man once said to me that we are the mother/lovers....mmm.Rings true though.
Lastly,i like to think about how i want to be pampered and it helps to decide my behaviour when i'm planning.
These fellas just want someone to love and to be loved......no strings attached???!!!
Hope this helps..xoxo
 

iguana

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Asian men's clubs

There is a variety of men's club available in Korea ,Japan, Hong Kong which are sadly lacking elsewhere. You enjoy the company of beautiful women, are teased and given tons of attention, and pay a huge sum of money. I always wonder if a class establishment like this could exist here.
The last one I went to had about 80 model-type women of all types. They cut and fed us fruit, kissed us on the cheeks (lots of hot towels for removing lipstick). You can also dance with the women...and have intelligent (or stupid) conversation. The table charge rapidly escalates as the talent pour large glasses of your (extremely expensive) whiskey. Tab for the night $2000. Companies invariably pay. Men often meet the same women when they are in town on business, sometimes women go out with them. I find it incredibly civilized, and the most pampered I have every been. Sadly, I think nothing available in North American can compare. :( Strip clubs are cold and impersonal and often full of kids who ruin the atmosphere. I think some men would pay for full attention from beautiful intelligent women with occasional sex.
 

gramage

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something you might find interesting

I don't know if I should put this here or as it's own thread but I learned something a while ago that the SP's on the board might find interesting (and it loosely connects to iguana's mentioning the asian adult industry). I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Kabuki theatre, but for a crash course it is a style of Japanese theatre formalized in about the 1800's (still performed today) in which all the performers are men. Men play female characters in a highly formalized style that is handed down through families, where the son often follows the father in playing these female parts. What is interesting and relevant to the board is how Kabuki started and why all the actors are men. Kabuki was origionaly performed entirely by women, who did shows which included highly erotic dancing along with the play which had women playing men. These women were prostitues who used the show as a way to advertise themselves and entice the audience into using their services afterwards. The Samurai (who were in charge of various regions) became obsessed with these women and began to frequent the areas that had these plays. But while the Samurai had considerable power at the time they had very little money, so to pay for their habit they borrowed from bankers, and eventually went so deeply into dept they couldn't pay. In an attempt to prevent this from continuing the Shogun (emperor) banned women from performing in these plays, instead having the female roles played by young boys. Unfortunately the boys also replaced the women as prostitutes as well as actors, and the same problems occured. So The Shogun decreed that all actors must be men, and the Kabuki style of performance was created. So prostitution is responsible for Kabuki theatre.
 

blindmystic

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i think i was spoiled growing up reading about brothels, and seeing them in movies ... all the plush carpets, and red drapes, and the piano player or string quartet (blindfolded or not) performing while scantly clad sirens lounged around in their knickers trolling for a gentleman to take them upstairs (where they'd inevitably take the riding crop to them and thrash them within inches of their lives) ....

alas ... how sad it is to get nostalgic about that which you've only ever experienced through the mediation of fiction ....
 
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Willywants

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Josie darling!
You got it babe! At least for me!
To love and be loved! How true for me!
Love may be a bit of a strong word to use in the world of the "Courtesan", but the semblance of love and caring should be there!
I like to impart that feeling and would certainly give "A" plus to any lady who can make me feel like I am her true one and only!
No delusions! No commitments! Just an absolute and total focus for the duration of the encounter!
Such is hard to find! I have found it in very few SP's! It is what brings Willy back, more than any other SP "talent"!

Willywants (to love and be loved for the moment!)
 

gramage

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Cindy said:


Well show us the man/men that are willing or can afford to keep a courtesan for a month. If that was the case my job would be made much easier and yes I would be only pleasing him for that month. But how many men can afford that kind of service today? The longest time most SP's ever get booked for is a weekend and the man has her all to himself for that time. I think some of us would certainly be courtesans if we treated that way.
Very true, the clientele doesn't really exist to support this kind of system anymore. But thats what I mean when I say escorts are not much like courtesans were. Also keep in mind not all prostitutes in that period were courtesans, some were cheaper and just for a single night more like what we have today, it's similar to the difference there is between legitimate escorts and streetwalkers.
 

canuckscientist

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my two cents worth

hello everyone,

I often visit the site but rarely post, but this topic seems too interesting to not respond...I think that there actually is a large number of men who would be willing to pay for the courtesan/mistress type relationship that gramage/lyla/cindy are talking about. However, the current economics of the industry, which sees many a sp making $250 per one hour call preclude that from ever happening. If you look at the historical courtesan/patron relationship in exchange for the courtesan's "talents" she received lodging and had her financial needs taken care of. In some cases, like Lyla mentioned, she received gifts or jewellery above and beyond her room and boarding, but the implicit contract between the two from what I can see is that her day-to-day needs were met. So lets imagine I find a beautiful SP (which I am always looking for (smile)) and I propose a "mistress type" relationship. I can set her up in a very nice condo for $2000 a month, cover her expenses and give her $500 a week spending money. For roughly $5000 a month, I have met all her needs in a manner similar to what the historical patron did for a courtesan. But name me one quality sp who would be willing to focus on just one gentleman for an entire month for $5000...if there are any, please contact me, because I have both the means and an interest in looking into this type of relationship. :rolleyes:
 
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Interestingly enough, I met a perfect courtesan last year, and have not seen an escort since.

What's the difference? Everything. She knows me, what I want, is beautiful, widely-read, knowledgeable in many areas, and has obviously made a study of men. Being a professional actress doesn't hurt I suppose for being perfect as a companion.

I suppose this might be found in an escort, but the volume of clients I would think would wear an escort out or down, whereas my lady friend has more time, and an evening is an evening, it starts when I'm free and ends when it feels like it should - the clock is a big turn-off for me.

I think that rates probably vary, even with my friend, but once a month or so with this person is wonderfully recharging, and just barely affordable :)

They are out there, I suppose is my point.
 
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