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Should U.S. Recruit Non-citizens?

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Possible solution for our 'empire builder' Bush's problem of finding fresh bodies to serve in his military for his perpetual wars policy.

Should U.S. Recruit Non-citizens?

by William Norman Grigg

03/26/05 "New American" - - As the Roman Empire went into terminal decline, and fewer Roman citizens enlisted to fight the endless imperial wars, Roman rulers turned increasingly to the services of foreign mercenaries -- ultimately, with disastrous results. Max Boot, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, has urged Washington to emulate that self-destructive policy.
“It is hard to pick up a newspaper without reading about Army and Marine Corps recruiting and retention woes,” wrote Boot in a recent syndicated column. “Nonstop deployments and the danger faced by troops in Iraq are making it hard for both services to fill their ranks. The same goes for the National Guard and Reserves.”

Rather than rethinking our foreign policy to bring our military commitments into balance with our resources (and into harmony with constitutional principles), Boot argues that the military “would do well today to open its ranks not only to legal immigrants but also to illegal ones and, as important, to untold numbers of young men and women who are not here now but would like to come. No doubt many would be willing to serve for some set period in return for one of the world’s most precious commodities — U.S. citizenship. Open up recruiting stations from Budapest to Bangkok, Cape Town to Cairo, Montreal to Mexico City.”

Most native-born and naturalized American citizens regard citizenship as a blessing. To Boot, it’s a commodity, and those who enlist in his proposed “Freedom Legion” would be disposable cannon fodder: “U.S. politicians, wary (and rightly so) of casualties among U.S. citizens, might take a more lenient attitude toward the employment of a force not made up of their constituents.” Boot apparently assumes that most Americans share his view that foreign lives are cheaper and more expendable than ours.

Of course, implicit in Boot’s suggestion is the possibility of recruiting foreigners to carry out homeland defense missions presently left begging because of prolonged overseas deployment of Guard and Reserve units.

© Copyright 2005 American Opinion Publishing Incorporated.

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No, we should only provide education, medical and social services, it would be immoral for us to allow them to volunteer to serve :rolleyes:

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Come on now, this is Bush/Cheney! When did morality ever matter to them?.... :rolleyes:
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Come on now, this is Bush/Cheney! When did morality ever matter to them?.... :rolleyes:
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This from the kill the innocent protect the guilty crowd

de-install stupidity/immaturity channeling

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I wouldn't call an American citizenship "one of the world’s most precious commodities". But seeing as this is coming from an American, I'm not surprised at the statement.

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Goober Mcfly said:
I wouldn't call an American citizenship "one of the world’s most precious commodities". But seeing as this is coming from an American, I'm not surprised at the statement.

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It's part of that 'right-wing' Montana/Texas style GOP thinking.

Sort of like that:

'AmeriKKKa Uber Alles' feeling they all share!........:p
 

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Goober Mcfly said:
I wouldn't call an American citizenship "one of the world’s most precious commodities". But seeing as this is coming from an American, I'm not surprised at the statement.

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If you define precious as there being more demand than supply.......

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onthebottom said:
channels Pecker

This from the kill the innocent protect the guilty crowd

de-install stupidity/immaturity channeling

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Assume you are talking about the Texas GOP crowd and their policy of, execute the kids and mental retards while you protect the Kenny Lays of the world........ :rolleyes:
 

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onthebottom said:
If you define precious as there being more demand than supply.......

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You could say that for any country's citizenship. By your standard, Canadian citizenship is even more precious than American, IMHO.
 

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Goober Mcfly said:
You could say that for any country's citizenship. By your standard, Canadian citizenship is even more precious than American, IMHO.
Canada does consistently out rank the USA in UN and world rankings on what country is considered to be the best place to live in, which in turn leads many GOPers to hate the UN even more.
 

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Goober Mcfly said:
You could say that for any country's citizenship. By your standard, Canadian citizenship is even more precious than American, IMHO.
There is a longer waiting list for citizenship and "green cards" in Canada than the US? Multiple things can be precious.

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Goober Mcfly said:
We don't have "green cards". And our flag has a maple leaf on it!
That's why I put the quotes around green card, do you have a temporary work visa?

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onthebottom said:
That's why I put the quotes around green card, do you have a temporary work visa?

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Yes but I believe that a U.S. green card is more like what most counties call permanent residency status (in Canada the term ‘landed immigrant” is sometimes used instead). BTW, as you may know, the "green card" has apparently not been green for many years.

So it seems that the U.S. may be copying the French and creating their own foreign legion.
 

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someone said:
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So it seems that the U.S. may be copying the French and creating their own foreign legion.
Ouch......

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Citizenship was never a requirement for joining the Army, most "green card" holders were allowed to serve. The citizenship was used as a carrot to recruit permanent residence.

BTW the Canadian term for permanent resident is landed immigrant. The card is mainly silver with the Canandian flag on it. It is valid for 5 years and needs to be renewed after that. I just got mine in the mail last week.

Canada is used as a "jump off" point in to the USA. In the past it was easier to be granted a "green card" if you were established in Canada already, especially if you are a Canadian citizen.

BTW I will apply for my Canadian citizenship next, just makes life a whole lot easier. :D
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Canada does consistently out rank the USA in UN and world rankings on what country is considered to be the best place to live in, which in turn leads many GOPers to hate the UN even more.
True....but it has been on a free fall lately...I bet you that is Bush's fault.
 

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Originally Posted by WoodPeckr
Canada does consistently out rank the USA in UN and world rankings on what country is considered to be the best place to live in, which in turn leads many GOPers to hate the UN even more.

langeweile said:
True....but it has been on a free fall lately...I bet you that is Bush's fault.
The USA has also been in a free fall lately, and jeezzzz... could Bush/Cheney be involved here, ... so I bet Canada still comes out ahead in the rankings.
 
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