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Should they bring back conscription?

red

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I think they should- a few years in the army will teach these youngsters somethings
 

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red said:
I think they should- a few years in the army will teach these youngsters somethings
But the Canadian forces can't afford boots for their current soldiers (a NP story a few days ago), so the youngsters would have to go barefoot.
 

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someone said:
But the Canadian forces can't afford boots for their current soldiers (a NP story a few days ago), so the youngsters would have to go barefoot.
Naahhh... they'll gladly accept gays and lesbians in the military, so the gays will supply their own patent leather jobs and the lesbians their own Birkenstocks. ;)
 
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I say "conscription if necessary, but not necessarily conscription".
 

n_v

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red said:
I think they should- a few years in the army will teach these youngsters somethings
What has it tought you?
 

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I take it your speaking about the American Military....why would we want conscription re-instated for the Canadian Armed Forces? :confused:
 

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To an outsider, conscription in the USA would be good news in terms restoring some real accountability to US foreign policy. Say goodbye to half-assed debate and outhright apathy - make way for critical thinking!!

But I must say I'd feel sorry for the communities to which the recruits return, after all with the experimental drugs they pump into guys nowadays, they'l be going berserk all over the place. Not to mention the demons and secrets eating away at those who actually get deployed. And if you live in an urban area, do you really want all the youths to improve their skills with weapons?
 

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No, I think it's better for military moral to have people in service who have chosen to be there. Now, a year in the Peace Corps between high school and collage.... not a bad idea.

OTB
 

red

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n_v said:
What has it tought you?

discipline. teamwork. taking responsibility for your actions and I am really good at shining my own shoes
 

red

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Jamaica-luvr said:
I take it your speaking about the American Military....why would we want conscription re-instated for the Canadian Armed Forces? :confused:

No - I am speaking about Canada. Conscription is to Canada as the Draft is to the US. It would also build more of a political base for military funding which is shockingly underfunded in Canada. and I really think it would do the younsters some good
 

red

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langeweile said:
having to serve in the "Bundeswehr" myself. I have to say a little military service could help wo whip some of those young boys in to shape.

At least they learn how to drink and swear well... ;)

and "hobbying"
 

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red said:
discipline. teamwork. taking responsibility for your actions and I am really good at shining my own shoes
And apparently telling others what to do with their lives.
 

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Look on the bright side. If Canada was to go to conscription. Those who choose to dodge millitry service could head to the US.
 

red

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n_v said:
And apparently telling others what to do with their lives.

yep- I learned that to. now stand at attention when you ask me a question you greasy civilian
 

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I don’t realize Red was serious with this thread when I originally responded as I can’t see it ever happening. Even in wartime, politicians have been reluctant to impose conscription as yychobbiest's quotation shows (I forget, was that Borden or Mackenzie King?).

I know that some European countries make arguments such as DQ’s in support of conscription. I agree that there are strong benefits to society from having people from many different backgrounds mixed together something during their life. However, I am still against it for three reasons. One is that forcing people to serve is a infringement on their basic rights that my classical liberal values can’t support. For the same reason, I could not support OTM’s suggested alternative. The second reason is the argument economists make. By forcing people to serve, the true cost of the military does not appear on the government books. The military is paying people less than the market value of their labour. While, I agree that Canada should devote more resources to the military, I think that it should be a decision based on an honest statement of the costs.

My third reason has to do with the quality implications on the military. I spent some time in the Canadian military and I think that I benefited from it. However, much of basic training and later leadership courses involved lot of physical and psychological stress in order to weed people out. The idea was that if people could not take that type of stress in training situations, you did not want them beside you in combat. With conscription, I really don’t see how you could weed anyone out.
 

red

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the focus would not being on weeding them out, but building them up.
 

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but once there in they stay and then in 20 years they retire with a big fat public service pention and then take a job the tax payers paid them to learn and put someone else out of work or go international with their services!
 

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DonQuixote said:
No, learning leadership. Which means learning how to take orders and give orders.
n_v - you're naieve!
Wasn't directed to you. Something apparently you haven't learned in the military ..
speak when you are spoken to.
 
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