The truth hurts...I know.n_v said:The article is full of shit.
Which, as best as I can make out is summarized by:langeweile said:
Which seems a reasonable definition, though the word "largely" suggests the writer reserves the right to judge anti-Americanism on the basis of imputed motive, rather than the actual expression of the critic. Was there more? But of course this means that criticism of America, Americans, or their leaders that purports (one can be wrong without being anti-American surely) to support specific criticisms with specific facts escapes the label "Anti-Americanism".…anti-Americanism is aimed at Americans largely because they are Americans. It's not because of anything they've done to us; it's because of who they are and what they have: money and might.
Endorsing this post...thanks for that!yychobbyist said:In my view, whatever anti-Americanism exists in Canada exists because we are overloaded and bombarded each and every day with the images, the rhetoric, the news and the attitudes of Americans. Americans bring their reality into our lives each and every day and it is a different reality than ours.
We oftentimes view Americans as sanctimonious, as telling us and the rest of the world how to live, how to act and what is right and wrong but we feel that they themselves do not live up to the standards which they espouse.
Many of have seen "the ugly American" live and in person as visitors come to our country and feel it is theirs. We see broadcasters talk about how we should feel fortunate that we are "allowed" to share a continent with the U.S. We see case after case of ignorance about us.
We see ourselves in a free trade agreement with a partner who we feel is not interested in trading freely or fairly with us.
I have rarely seen blatant anti-Americanism in the way Langeweile speaks of. Does it exist in Canada? I'm sure it does. I'm also sure that it's likely worse now than it was than in the Clinton years because of the negative emotions engendered by GWB. Is it right for us to do this? No. Is it productive? No. Are we better than Americans? No - as a people they're just like us. Is there anti-Canadianism in America? Probably not because they likely know and care less about us than we do about them.
Oh blatant anti-americanism is alive and well. The reason you don't see it or feel is because you are Canadian.yychobbyist said:In my view, whatever anti-Americanism exists in Canada exists because we are overloaded and bombarded each and every day with the images, the rhetoric, the news and the attitudes of Americans. Americans bring their reality into our lives each and every day and it is a different reality than ours.
We oftentimes view Americans as sanctimonious, as telling us and the rest of the world how to live, how to act and what is right and wrong but we feel that they themselves do not live up to the standards which they espouse.
Many of have seen "the ugly American" live and in person as visitors come to our country and feel it is theirs. We see broadcasters talk about how we should feel fortunate that we are "allowed" to share a continent with the U.S. We see case after case of ignorance about us.
We see ourselves in a free trade agreement with a partner who we feel is not interested in trading freely or fairly with us.
I have rarely seen blatant anti-Americanism in the way Langeweile speaks of. Does it exist in Canada? I'm sure it does. I'm also sure that it's likely worse now than it was than in the Clinton years because of the negative emotions engendered by GWB. Is it right for us to do this? No. Is it productive? No. Are we better than Americans? No - as a people they're just like us. Is there anti-Canadianism in America? Probably not because they likely know and care less about us than we do about them.
You can't judge this issue because:bbking said:Lang your full of crap. Guys look at the date on the article, Feb/03.
2003!!! thats nearly two years old Lange - at the hieght of the debate about Iraq. This post is just to flame - it is hardly the same issue as today.
If you want to debate Canadian sentiment about the US, get a more current article or stop posting such bull.
bbk
I teach my kids to respect people regardless of their race, origin, nationality, sexual preference or religion.Qsecofr720 said:Yes there is anti-Americanism in Canada. I have seen it and quite frankly, I sometimes participate in it. Why? While some citizens of the USA (they are not Americans by the way), are good folk, there is a large majority that are ignorant, self-centred people with no respect of any other country or way of doing things. I see this every day working for a client that is controlled by an US based company. No matter how many times you tell them that a certain thing will not work in Canada, they will not beleive you. Only when their plan fails do they realize it and then they are pissed and blame you for not telling them.
Go to any resort island in the Carribean, you can tell the guy from the US a mile away. He's the loud obnoxious (sometime drunk) that is trying to convince some guy working there he should get something for nothing (or at least a discount).
Langeweile, what is the problem with your kids in Canadian schools? Are you like the ex-Raptor that did not want his kids going to school here because they were learning the metric system and they did not pledge allegiance to the stars and stripes in the morning? Maybe you don't want them to learn the truth about The War 1812, or that the World Wars were actually fought by other countries before you felt it was time to save the free world?
If it is so bad here, why are you staying?
This is very true but can you name any country where this is not true?langeweile said:FREE TRADE I think it's funny that Canadians complain about the lack of free trade, while quietly protectinng industries that are dear to their own heart.
BBK I was going back in my posts and i couldn't find the passage where I acussed ALL Canadians to be anti-american.bbking said:To hear you say it all Canadians are anti-American - it just isn't so. Your use of an article during a stressful period of our relationship is just wrong.
Thank you..you are right on...someone said:This is very true but can you name any country where this is not true?
I suspect that there is a lot of truth in what you say about anti-americanism as I do often hear people make negative generalizations about Americans. However, given the number of racial comments I heard when I lived in the U.S., I would say that Canadians are not the only ones to make negative generalizations. Still posts like this thread are a good way of reminding people of the evils of such generalizations as I am not sure such people are always aware of what they are doing/saying.
It has nothing to do with the truth. Which this isn't. You reference a blog to back your argument. Yeah OK. Diverting the ineptitude the current US president has and the disdain that non Americans have towards him and passing it along as anti-americanism is seriously reaching. Good try though.langeweile said:The truth hurts...I know.