Clinton
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Sorry but we pay for ours and aren't highly visible public figures. If you can't do the time don't commit the crime.
Peace, if you want to belive Clinton was clean feel free - it doesn't jive with reality but whatever makes you happy.Peace4u said:
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A bit of Peace4U's heros history:
1969
Clinton meets a 19-year-old woman in a English bar and has sex with her. She will say she was raped; Clinton will claim it was consensual. A retired State Department official will tell the news service, Capitol Hill Blue, in the late 1990s, "There is no doubt in my mind that this woman suffered severe emotional trauma. But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape.
1972
A 22-year-old woman tells campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college.
1974
Acccording to Capitol Hill Blue news service, a female student at the University of Arkansas will later claim that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She says he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complains to her faculty advisor who confronts Clinton, but Clinton claims the student ''came on'' to him. The student leaves the school shortly after the incident.
1976
Two Indonesian billionaires come to Arkansas. Mochtar Riady and Liem Sioe Liong are close to Suharto. Riady is looking for an American bank to buy. Finds Jackson Stephens with whom he forms Stephens Finance. Stephens will broker the arrival of BCCI to this country and steer BCCI's founder, Hassan Abedi, to Bert Lance.
Riady's teen-age son is taken on as an intern by Stephens Inc. He later says he was "sponsored" by Bill Clinton.
1978
Two months after commencing the Whitewater scam, Hillary Clinton invests $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she has a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.
According to her later allegations, Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, is raped by Clinton and her lip almost bitten off. Hospital nurses report Broaddrick's incident as a rape but the report along with photos have since disappeared.
According to Roger Morris in Partners in Power, a young woman lawyer in Little Rock will later claim that she was accosted by Clinton this year and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her.
1979
A legal secretary will later say that Clinton tried to force her into oral sex. She will tell Capitol Hill Blue news service in the 1990s that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut. "He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she says. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that." She declines further interviewing.
Sharlene Wilson will testify in a 1990 federal drug probe that she began selling cocaine to Roger Clinton as early as this year. She will also tell reporters that she sold two grams of cocaine to Clinton's brother at the Little Rock nightclub Le Bistro, then witnessed Bill Clinton consume the drug.
Two Arkansas state troopers will swear under oath that they have seen Clinton ''under the influence'' of drugs when he was governor. Sharlene Wilson is a bartender who ended up serving time on drug crimes and cooperating with drug investigators. She told a federal grand jury she saw Clinton and his younger brother ''snort'' cocaine together in 1979.
1980
According to later sworn testimony by Arkansas trooper Larry Patterson, Governor Clinton has oral sex with a woman in a car parked outside Chelsea Clinton's elementary school.
1983
Investor's Business Daily would later write, "Sally Perdue, a former Miss Arkansas and Little Rock talk show host who said she had an affair with then-Gov. Clinton in 1983, told the London Sunday Telegraph that he once came over to her house with a bag full of cocaine. ''He had all the equipment laid out, like a real pro.'' In the 1990s, Genifer Flowers tells Sean Hannity's WABC talk radio show: "He smoked marijuana in my presence and and offered me the opportunity to snort cocaine if I wanted to. I wasn't into that. Bill clearly let me know that he did cocaine.
Get the drift?
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1969
Clinton meets a 19-year-old woman in a English bar and has sex with her. She will say she was raped; Clinton will claim it was consensual. A retired State Department official will tell the news service, Capitol Hill Blue, in the late 1990s, "There is no doubt in my mind that this woman suffered severe emotional trauma. But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape.
1972
A 22-year-old woman tells campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college.
1974
Acccording to Capitol Hill Blue news service, a female student at the University of Arkansas will later claim that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She says he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complains to her faculty advisor who confronts Clinton, but Clinton claims the student ''came on'' to him. The student leaves the school shortly after the incident.
1976
Two Indonesian billionaires come to Arkansas. Mochtar Riady and Liem Sioe Liong are close to Suharto. Riady is looking for an American bank to buy. Finds Jackson Stephens with whom he forms Stephens Finance. Stephens will broker the arrival of BCCI to this country and steer BCCI's founder, Hassan Abedi, to Bert Lance.
Riady's teen-age son is taken on as an intern by Stephens Inc. He later says he was "sponsored" by Bill Clinton.
1978
Two months after commencing the Whitewater scam, Hillary Clinton invests $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she has a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.
According to her later allegations, Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, is raped by Clinton and her lip almost bitten off. Hospital nurses report Broaddrick's incident as a rape but the report along with photos have since disappeared.
According to Roger Morris in Partners in Power, a young woman lawyer in Little Rock will later claim that she was accosted by Clinton this year and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her.
1979
A legal secretary will later say that Clinton tried to force her into oral sex. She will tell Capitol Hill Blue news service in the 1990s that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut. "He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she says. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that." She declines further interviewing.
Sharlene Wilson will testify in a 1990 federal drug probe that she began selling cocaine to Roger Clinton as early as this year. She will also tell reporters that she sold two grams of cocaine to Clinton's brother at the Little Rock nightclub Le Bistro, then witnessed Bill Clinton consume the drug.
Two Arkansas state troopers will swear under oath that they have seen Clinton ''under the influence'' of drugs when he was governor. Sharlene Wilson is a bartender who ended up serving time on drug crimes and cooperating with drug investigators. She told a federal grand jury she saw Clinton and his younger brother ''snort'' cocaine together in 1979.
1980
According to later sworn testimony by Arkansas trooper Larry Patterson, Governor Clinton has oral sex with a woman in a car parked outside Chelsea Clinton's elementary school.
1983
Investor's Business Daily would later write, "Sally Perdue, a former Miss Arkansas and Little Rock talk show host who said she had an affair with then-Gov. Clinton in 1983, told the London Sunday Telegraph that he once came over to her house with a bag full of cocaine. ''He had all the equipment laid out, like a real pro.'' In the 1990s, Genifer Flowers tells Sean Hannity's WABC talk radio show: "He smoked marijuana in my presence and and offered me the opportunity to snort cocaine if I wanted to. I wasn't into that. Bill clearly let me know that he did cocaine.
Get the drift?
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...and which one of these was he convicted of in a court of law?onthebottom said:
Your beloved Bush/Rove/Ashcroft approach aside... that is still the "official standard" in your country, no? Or have we shipped Slick Willy off to Camp X-Ray already?
Best regards,
F.
See Al Capone comment above, but nice rightwingwacco attempt. Given your standard W is a saint because he’s never been convicted of anything. St. George to the rescue – has a nice ring ;-)Fortunato said:...and which one of these was he convicted of in a court of law?
Your beloved Bush/Rove/Ashcroft approach aside... that is still the "official standard" in your country, no? Or have we shipped Slick Willy off to Camp X-Ray already?
Best regards,
F.
I'm supporting the hypothesis that Clinton’s a Piece of Sh*t, not that he's been convicted. Kind of like saying Al Capone was a criminal and your response is he was never convicted....
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I still can't figure out why people have such a hard on for this guy, no pun intended. He lead during some of the most prosperous times we've ever had. I know he wasn't solely responsible for it, but he did have some impact. JFK filandered, LBJ, don't even go there, Nixon lied, Carter couldn't get anything done, Reagan, Iran-gate, they're all scumbags. After GWB leaves, we will all find out about all the dirty crap conflict of interst garbage he and especially Cheney pulled. The next one will be more of the same. You can't get a decent person elected anymore. It's like the music industry now. When was the last time we had a truly talented singer/songwriter that wasn't good-looking. If you don't have the look, you don't get in. It's sad.
It was a long time coming but many people can't get over him looking directly in the camera, wagging his finger at us and saying.......
Pretty much proved to everyone, if he can lie with a straight face like that and have his wife out looking like a fool defending him (not that I like her much but that was a shitty thing for him to do) he's been lying to us all along. Which if you look at his history, he has.
But at least Al Gore invented the Internet so we were all rich, at least for a while.
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Pretty much proved to everyone, if he can lie with a straight face like that and have his wife out looking like a fool defending him (not that I like her much but that was a shitty thing for him to do) he's been lying to us all along. Which if you look at his history, he has.
But at least Al Gore invented the Internet so we were all rich, at least for a while.
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The DEGREE of the lies that you find unacceptable in a POTUS versus those that you simply shrug off is astounding.onthebottom said:
Killing a million spermatozoa is heinous while killing tens of thousands of innocents, for NO reason, is justifiable?
Uproven White Water allegations are terrible yet Halliburton is as pure as the driven snow?
Embarassing his wife is bad but embarassing the nation is OK?
Your perspective seems rather twisted here Nancy.
What relation to lies does any of this partisan bunk have? Billyboy lied in a judge's face. This is called perjury and is a crime. Get over it already. For this, the American Bar Association pulled his papers. And good thing - he'll never chase another ambulance.
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Al Capone WAS a criminal. He was convicted, and as I recall, died in jail.onthebottom said:
Your "refute" to Peace4U's claim (quite correct) that Clinton was NOT a criminal was to list a number of unsubstantiated claims. None of which come anywhere near being what anyone could reasonably call "fact" (well, anyone but Rove... he'd be proud of you). Shame on you.
Likewise, suggesting that criminal convictions are the only way to support or refute your "piece of sh*t" hypothesis is both (a) faulty logic, and (b) stupid. I'm not even saying your hypothesis is incorrect. But "judging" on unsubstantiated accusations is inappropriate... at least try to stick to facts. For example, Clinton is a liar. He lied about getting head, so as to try and save his lying ass from his (quite scary) "better half". Bad Bill, you Piece of Sh#t. Then again... George W. is a liar. He lied about WMD, so as to justify sending your country to war, killing many thousands of people. Bad George W., you Piece of Sh#t.
You decide which one is "worse"... (I know, I know... somehow you'll figure that it is the "head" lie...).
I would venture to say that most people are truly stunned with what behaviours and bullsh*t you folks put up with in terms of your leaders, and are puzzled at how you can tolerate those "Pieces of Sh#t"... but it's also safe to say - it isn't Clinton that they're thinking of as they stare at "y'all" in disbelief....
Regards,
F.
Its sort of sad,there are just so many people out there with alot of hate inside them,including right-wing christians,or so-calledBush League said:
