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Half of all crime in the United States is committed by just 5% of all families

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If that's true, it would be evidence for a genetic component to criminal behavior.
 

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If that's true, it would be evidence for a genetic component to criminal behavior.
That’s where the PC gets crazy. The nature nurture debate.

The author explicitly looked for a white family because he didn’t want to be distracted with the race arguments.
 

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It's a reasonable argument based on the simplest of facts that criminals compose the small % of the population.
 

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Gosh, people influence other people. If people actually breed and train other people they influence them more. Who'd ever have guessed that?

Somehow, I think we're missing the point here: Shouldn't we be focusing on the mismatch between half of all crime, and just 1/20 of the population? We may be properly pessimistic about detecting the other criminals spread through the remaining 95% of the population, but if here's truth in this finding, at least in general terms, we already 'know' those who commit 50% of all crimes.

Surely we can do something productive, and cost effective about influencing them towards better decisions. Whether that's by making profiting from crime less possible, the choice of crime less attractive, or non-criminal choices more rewarding is what we elect people to determine, but in such a small population figuring out a useful mix shouldn't be impossible.

Not easy in a nation led by a guy who boasts it's smart to go bankrupt, not pay what you owe, and easy to assault women, but not impossible.
 

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Gosh, people influence other people. If people actually breed and train other people they influence them more. Who'd ever have guessed that?

Somehow, I think we're missing the point here: Shouldn't we be focusing on the mismatch between half of all crime, and just 1/20 of the population? We may be properly pessimistic about detecting the other criminals spread through the remaining 95% of the population, but if here's truth in this finding, at least in general terms, we already 'know' those who commit 50% of all crimes.

Surely we can do something productive, and cost effective about influencing them towards better decisions. Whether that's by making profiting from crime less possible, the choice of crime less attractive, or non-criminal choices more rewarding is what we elect people to determine, but in such a small population figuring out a useful mix shouldn't be impossible.

Not easy in a nation led by a guy who boasts it's smart to go bankrupt, not pay what you owe, and easy to assault women, but not impossible.
Of course, something can be done: Education and welfare.

But it is the cost of the American way of life, which demands a desperate proletariat, being it undocumented immigrants or otherwise uneducated poor people who have no prospect for a decent living.
 

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Of course, something can be done: Education and welfare.

But it is the cost of the American way of life, which demands a desperate proletariat, being it undocumented immigrants or otherwise uneducated poor people who have no prospect for a decent living.
If you keep people desperate, there's always a certain small percentage that will turn to crime/sharp dealing as their only hope. The trouble is, this 5% seems quite successful at their criminality.

Even if the response was only to take the 5% and teach them Trumpian practices and ethics that stayed on the right side of the letter of the law —just — you'd still have cut the crime rate and its costs by 50%, for the price of a bit of tuition.
 

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If you keep people desperate, there's always a certain small percentage that will turn to crime/sharp dealing as their only hope. The trouble is, this 5% seems quite successful at their criminality.

Even if the response was only to take the 5% and teach them Trumpian practices and ethics that stayed on the right side of the letter of the law —just — you'd still have cut the crime rate and its costs by 50%, for the price of a bit of tuition.
There is a percentage of the population that just doesn't give a shit.

Give it what ever label you like.....

Bad, Evil, Sociopathic......

Blame both Heredity and Environment. But one in a hundred of the population is in this group. Consistently in every population.
 

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There is a percentage of the population that just doesn't give a shit.

Give it what ever label you like.....

Bad, Evil, Sociopathic......

Blame both Heredity and Environment. But one in a hundred of the population is in this group. Consistently in every population.
Actually, the study says one in twenty. But considering we're wasting prison money on something like one on ten who could learn better behaviours from better people, and getting at that 4% difference between your 1% incorrigibles and that study population could cut crime rates and costs by 50% it does seem worth some effort.
 

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Actually, the study says one in twenty. But considering we're wasting prison money on something like one on ten who could learn better behaviours from better people, and getting at that 4% difference between your 1% incorrigibles and that study population could cut crime rates and costs by 50% it does seem worth some effort.
The studies im refering to are ones specifically about psychopaths.

If you want a really good and entertaining read on the subject pick up Jon Ronson's The Psychopathy Test.

It covers both criminals and CEO' s. And is quite the eye opener.
 
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