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Establishment Media’s Concern for Jamal Khashoggi Is Fake News

Conil

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I agree with him, its a apolitical story. "Outside of Breitbart News, have you heard a single squeak of outrage from a CNN or NBC or Washington Post over the 30-plus Mexican journalists murdered since 2016?"


Let’s assume the terrible rumors are true, that an unsuspecting Jamal Khashoggi walked into a Saudi consulate in Istanbul only to be tortured and killed.
While there is no question that is an awful thing and we should all feel terrible for him and his family, in the overall, existential scheme of things, it is time to turn off CNN and stop playing pretend.

These things happen pretty much every day in that part of the world, and now we are being conned… Conned by the establishment media with a shiny piece of fake news.

According to the media, over the likely death of Khashoggi, we are now supposed to get twisted into all sorts of knots and drop our support of Donald Trump and want to blow up America’s relationship with Saudi Arabia (our most important ally in the fight against Iran) and give up a $100 billion arms sale that will benefit America and Americans because … a non-American was killed not on American soil.

Again, I am not trying to downplay the horror of what probably happened to Khashoggi. But this is life in the modern Middle East. What’s more, Khashoggi knew the stakes and still he played with fire with his support of the Muslim Brotherhood and other sensitive political activities — not to mention a palsy walsy relationship with Osama bin Laden.

So why are we supposed to care so much about this particular human life that our extreme caring will blow up Trump’s Middle East policy, a policy that actually seems to be working…?

Oooooohhhhh…

I see.

Because Khashoggi was a journalist, a sacred journalist practicing the sacred art of journalism at the sacred left-wing temple of the Washington Post — and this is why his life matters so much more than any other.

Sorry, no.

Call me a monster, but I do not put any additional moral weight on the life of a journalist. Alternately, as much as I despise the media, I do not put any less moral weight on the life of a journalist. When it comes to such things, a life is a life, an individual is an individual, and every human life matters.

And again, I am not here to downplay the terrible and tragic murder of an individual. That is the furthest thing from my point here.

What is flat-out immoral, though, is the establishment media trying to gaslight us into believing a journalist’s life is more sacred than that of a truck driver, construction worker, schoolteacher, or — God forbid — a child.

And yet, in a terrible world where every day in this country innocent children go missing, young black men are gunned down in Chicago, women are raped and murdered, the media demand we pour all of emotional energy and empathy, not to mention our government’s diplomatic resources, into the murder of a journalist because … journalism.

Again — sorry, but no.

I will not be emotionally blackmailed by an arrogant and provincial media abusing its wicked power to place the life of one of their own above the life of all the children who will go missing today, all the women who will be assaulted, all the service men and women currently serving in harm’s way, all the murder victims, all the gunshot victims.

And then there is this simple fact…

Listen close, because this is important…

The media are playing us, are only pretending to care about Khashoggi.

Remember, the establishment media is almost entirely made up of truly awful people who care only about one thing — the left-wing cause. They do not care about you or me, they do not even care about one another, and they sure as hell don’t care about Khashoggi. To them his life is a tool, a prop, a means to a political end.

While I do not doubt that the journalists who actually knew Khashoggi are truly concerned, almost all the hand-wringing you are seeing in the news media over the life of a journalist is fake news.

These people don’t care…

You want proof.

Here are Exhibits 1 – 30…

Outside of Breitbart News, have you heard a single squeak of outrage from a CNN or NBC or Washington Post over the 30-plus Mexican journalists murdered since 2016? https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/06/28/32-mexican-journalists-murdered-since-2016/

Of course you haven’t!

Because outrage over that particular horror show only works against the media’s left-wing cause of portraying Mexico as an idyllic nation sending us their best and brightest.

This entire Khashoggi narrative is a con, a hustle, a ploy, a cynical tactical maneuver to attack Trump and to undermine his successful (so far) Middle East policy… The media are exploiting this man, using him, weaponizing his death because that death is useful to these monsters.

While I do not put the life of a journalist above that of a waitress or mechanic or coal miner or taxi driver, I can guarantee I care a whole lot more about Khashoggi than those in the media who appear to be absolutely delighted by the fact that his likely murder allows them to fabricate yet another reason to attack Drumpf.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ias-concern-for-jamal-khashoggi-is-fake-news/
 

Knuckle Ball

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The Right continues to debase itself further with each passing day.

There are no words.
 

nottyboi

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So remind me, why is the fight against Iran so important again? Or is that just another flavor of fake news?
 

bver_hunter

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The media frenzy is about a murder of an American Resident and Journalist that was killed by a State organized murder of Khashoggi. The Fake Breitbart News obviously does not accept this particular fact!!
 

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oldjones

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Conil, I really must ask: Are you deliberately trying to make those who support the apologists for the Saudis, like Trump and his Party, look bad by posting this latest piece of drivel?

We all know journalism can be dangerous and deadly, and no crowd shows more constant animus and hatred towards reporters than the authority-loving admirers of muscular executive action. But to give space to this guy, who crassly exploits dozens of murders for no good purpose, except to disparage media he dislikes with outright libel about them is lower than your usual level of spleen. Googling 'murdered Mexican journalists' with NBC, CNN and Washington Post gets millions of hits citing hundreds of articles. Articles that he claims they never wrote. But there is the small possibility you intended a show of how unhinged some denizens of that echo-chamber of yours can get.

Surely you cannot believe there is either truth or logic in this piece. What do you hope to achieve by posting it?
 

mandrill

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conil, don't you overlook that the journalists in Mexico were murdered by narco criminals and that Khashoggi was murdered by the Saudi crown prince?

And yes, I have read a great deal about journalists murdered in Mexico. It's out there.
 

Zaibetter

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I agree with him, its a apolitical story. "Outside of Breitbart News, have you heard a single squeak of outrage from a CNN or NBC or Washington Post over the 30-plus Mexican journalists murdered since 2016?"


Let’s assume the terrible rumors are true, that an unsuspecting Jamal Khashoggi walked into a Saudi consulate in Istanbul only to be tortured and killed.
While there is no question that is an awful thing and we should all feel terrible for him and his family, in the overall, existential scheme of things, it is time to turn off CNN and stop playing pretend.

These things happen pretty much every day in that part of the world, and now we are being conned… Conned by the establishment media with a shiny piece of fake news.

According to the media, over the likely death of Khashoggi, we are now supposed to get twisted into all sorts of knots and drop our support of Donald Trump and want to blow up America’s relationship with Saudi Arabia (our most important ally in the fight against Iran) and give up a $100 billion arms sale that will benefit America and Americans because … a non-American was killed not on American soil.

Again, I am not trying to downplay the horror of what probably happened to Khashoggi. But this is life in the modern Middle East. What’s more, Khashoggi knew the stakes and still he played with fire with his support of the Muslim Brotherhood and other sensitive political activities — not to mention a palsy walsy relationship with Osama bin Laden.

So why are we supposed to care so much about this particular human life that our extreme caring will blow up Trump’s Middle East policy, a policy that actually seems to be working…?

Oooooohhhhh…

I see.

Because Khashoggi was a journalist, a sacred journalist practicing the sacred art of journalism at the sacred left-wing temple of the Washington Post — and this is why his life matters so much more than any other.

Sorry, no.

Call me a monster, but I do not put any additional moral weight on the life of a journalist. Alternately, as much as I despise the media, I do not put any less moral weight on the life of a journalist. When it comes to such things, a life is a life, an individual is an individual, and every human life matters.

And again, I am not here to downplay the terrible and tragic murder of an individual. That is the furthest thing from my point here.

What is flat-out immoral, though, is the establishment media trying to gaslight us into believing a journalist’s life is more sacred than that of a truck driver, construction worker, schoolteacher, or — God forbid — a child.

And yet, in a terrible world where every day in this country innocent children go missing, young black men are gunned down in Chicago, women are raped and murdered, the media demand we pour all of emotional energy and empathy, not to mention our government’s diplomatic resources, into the murder of a journalist because … journalism.

Again — sorry, but no.

I will not be emotionally blackmailed by an arrogant and provincial media abusing its wicked power to place the life of one of their own above the life of all the children who will go missing today, all the women who will be assaulted, all the service men and women currently serving in harm’s way, all the murder victims, all the gunshot victims.

And then there is this simple fact…

Listen close, because this is important…

The media are playing us, are only pretending to care about Khashoggi.

Remember, the establishment media is almost entirely made up of truly awful people who care only about one thing — the left-wing cause. They do not care about you or me, they do not even care about one another, and they sure as hell don’t care about Khashoggi. To them his life is a tool, a prop, a means to a political end.

While I do not doubt that the journalists who actually knew Khashoggi are truly concerned, almost all the hand-wringing you are seeing in the news media over the life of a journalist is fake news.

These people don’t care…

You want proof.

Here are Exhibits 1 – 30…

Outside of Breitbart News, have you heard a single squeak of outrage from a CNN or NBC or Washington Post over the 30-plus Mexican journalists murdered since 2016? https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/06/28/32-mexican-journalists-murdered-since-2016/

Of course you haven’t!

Because outrage over that particular horror show only works against the media’s left-wing cause of portraying Mexico as an idyllic nation sending us their best and brightest.

This entire Khashoggi narrative is a con, a hustle, a ploy, a cynical tactical maneuver to attack Trump and to undermine his successful (so far) Middle East policy… The media are exploiting this man, using him, weaponizing his death because that death is useful to these monsters.

While I do not put the life of a journalist above that of a waitress or mechanic or coal miner or taxi driver, I can guarantee I care a whole lot more about Khashoggi than those in the media who appear to be absolutely delighted by the fact that his likely murder allows them to fabricate yet another reason to attack Drumpf.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ias-concern-for-jamal-khashoggi-is-fake-news/
Of course its a Libtard fueled story, people are assassinated all the time. Nobody gives a shit.
 

Zaibetter

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Check this out ..more to the story

Saudi who arrived in Turkey day of Khashoggi disappearance dies in ‘traffic accident’

One of the 15 Saudis who arrived in Turkey the same day Jamal Khashoggi disappeared has died in a “suspicious traffic accident” and the Saudi consul in Istanbul could be the “next execution,” according to Turkish media reports.
Mashal Saad al-Bostani, 31, a lieutenant in the Saudi Royal Air Forces, was among the 15-member “hit team” that landed in Istanbul in two private jets from Riyadh on Oct. 2 and headed to the Saudi consulate.

He died in a car crash in Riyadh, but few details have emerged, the newspaper Yeni Safak reported, adding that his role in the “murder” was not clear.
The Saudi consul, Mohammad al-Otaibi, who was heard on a video recording of Khashoggi being killed and dismembered in the consulate, could be the “next execution,” as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman “would do anything to get rid of the evidence,” the Hurriyet Daily News said Thursday.

Al-Otaibi was caught on audio tape during Khashoggi’s interrogations — during which the journalist’s fingers were cut off and he was beheaded — telling them to “do it somewhere else outside or I will be in trouble.”
He returned to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday before Turkish police searched his residence.
Surveillance footage showed consulate vehicles with diplomatic plates arrived at the consul’s home about two hours after Khashoggi, 60, walked into the consulate.
Saudi Arabia has called the allegations “baseless” and claimed the writer left unharmed later in the day.

Crime scene investigators concluded a second search of the consulate and the consul’s residence overnight Thursday.
President Trump, who earlier this week dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Saudi Arabia and Turkey, said he wanted to find out what happened before taking any action against Saudi Arabia, a key US ally in the Middle East.
Trump, who raised the possibility of “rogue killers,” is meeting with Pompeo later Thursday at the White House.

Khashoggi was living in the United States for the past year and writing for the Washington Post.
The Saudi-born writer fled the kingdom over fears that he would be arrested as the crown prince cracked down on voices critical of his government.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/saudi...aASFufV8HAsJ9AwtAFD3Zz95QUqLGLVQwiq6Y2JqSZAMw
 

Knuckle Ball

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Check this out ..more to the story

Saudi who arrived in Turkey day of Khashoggi disappearance dies in ‘traffic accident’

One of the 15 Saudis who arrived in Turkey the same day Jamal Khashoggi disappeared has died in a “suspicious traffic accident” and the Saudi consul in Istanbul could be the “next execution,” according to Turkish media reports.
Mashal Saad al-Bostani, 31, a lieutenant in the Saudi Royal Air Forces, was among the 15-member “hit team” that landed in Istanbul in two private jets from Riyadh on Oct. 2 and headed to the Saudi consulate.

He died in a car crash in Riyadh, but few details have emerged, the newspaper Yeni Safak reported, adding that his role in the “murder” was not clear.
The Saudi consul, Mohammad al-Otaibi, who was heard on a video recording of Khashoggi being killed and dismembered in the consulate, could be the “next execution,” as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman “would do anything to get rid of the evidence,” the Hurriyet Daily News said Thursday.

Al-Otaibi was caught on audio tape during Khashoggi’s interrogations — during which the journalist’s fingers were cut off and he was beheaded — telling them to “do it somewhere else outside or I will be in trouble.”
He returned to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday before Turkish police searched his residence.
Surveillance footage showed consulate vehicles with diplomatic plates arrived at the consul’s home about two hours after Khashoggi, 60, walked into the consulate.
Saudi Arabia has called the allegations “baseless” and claimed the writer left unharmed later in the day.

Crime scene investigators concluded a second search of the consulate and the consul’s residence overnight Thursday.
President Trump, who earlier this week dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Saudi Arabia and Turkey, said he wanted to find out what happened before taking any action against Saudi Arabia, a key US ally in the Middle East.
Trump, who raised the possibility of “rogue killers,” is meeting with Pompeo later Thursday at the White House.

Khashoggi was living in the United States for the past year and writing for the Washington Post.
The Saudi-born writer fled the kingdom over fears that he would be arrested as the crown prince cracked down on voices critical of his government.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/saudi...aASFufV8HAsJ9AwtAFD3Zz95QUqLGLVQwiq6Y2JqSZAMw
I read about this too. Looks like Al-Otaibi was correct; the Saudis appear to have murdered a witness to the crime.
 

bver_hunter

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Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi Consulate, with no explanation as to why the ambulance was not called, and the Saudi administration emphatically stating that he left the Consulate on the same day. But though they finally admit that he died although they claim after a "so called fist fist", they cannot account for his body. Yet the moron of a President Trumpty Dumpty wants to believe the Saudi lies as he loves lies, and violent assaults on reporters. But giving the Saudis more time to so called investigate themselves is unprecedented. No US President in the past whether it was a Republican Democrat would have proceeded with this whole issue like how this idiot has.

Canada was right to call out the human rights issues with this sickening regime. No doubt the rest of Nato and Western nations will follow suit, maybe except Donnie Boy.
 

Butler1000

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Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi Consulate, with no explanation as to why the ambulance was not called, and the Saudi administration emphatically stating that he left the Consulate on the same day. But though they finally admit that he died although they claim after a "so called fist fist", they cannot account for his body. Yet the moron of a President Trumpty Dumpty wants to believe the Saudi lies as he loves lies, and violent assaults on reporters. But giving the Saudis more time to so called investigate themselves is unprecedented. No US President in the past whether it was a Republican Democrat would have proceeded with this whole issue like how this idiot has.

Canada was right to call out the human rights issues with this sickening regime. No doubt the rest of Nato and Western nations will follow suit, maybe except Donnie Boy.
So is Trudeau cancelling the arms deal we have?

Expelling the Ambassador?

What is Trudeau doing exactly?
 

shack

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So is Trudeau cancelling the arms deal we have?

Expelling the Ambassador?

What is Trudeau doing exactly?
What would Bernie be doing if you got your wish and he'd be prez?
 

Butler1000

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What would Bernie be doing if you got your wish and he'd be prez?
His quote is "we can't have an ally that murders in cold blood".

Personally I think the nation should be blockaded.

But that wont happen because of pump prices. You willing to pay 4 bucks a litre?
 

Butler1000

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What would Bernie be doing if you got your wish and he'd be prez?
I would add he wouldn't have approved the 110 billion arms deal.
 

Knuckle Ball

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... people are assassinated all the time. Nobody gives a shit.
You actually raise a valid point. Perhaps we should be more concerned when journalists and human rights activists are assassinated, arrested, or “disappeared” in other countries. This story seems to have aroused interest at least in part because the journalist was an American resident writing for the Washington Post. If it had been a Saudi journalist living in Saudi Arabia writing for an Arab publication I doubt there would be the same reaction.

When Canada criticized the Saudis recently about their arresting Samar Badawi nobody would have even noticed or cared were it not for the fact that MBS threw a bizarre shit fit over it. Maybe we should care more.
 

Butler1000

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You actually raise a valid point. Perhaps we should be more concerned when journalists and human rights activists are assassinated, arrested, or “disappeared” in other countries. This story seems to have aroused interest at least in part because the journalist was an American resident writing for the Washington Post. If it had been a Saudi journalist living in Saudi Arabia writing for an Arab publication I doubt there would be the same reaction.

When Canada criticized the Saudis recently about their arresting Samar Badawi nobody would have even noticed or cared were it not for the fact that MBS threw a bizarre shit fit over it. Maybe we should care more.
MBS for whatever reason is hardlining his power. The king is effectively incapacitated so I assume he is consolidating power.

But this was so f'n egregious the world has to react.
 
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