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New York state tax department reviewing fraud allegations involving Trump

bver_hunter

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Bullet Proof Story - New York state tax department reviewing fraud allegations involving Trump in NYT article:

New York state tax officials are investigating allegations detailed in an exhaustive New York Times investigation into Donald Trump and his family's business dealings.
The Times reported that Trump and his family committed "instances of outright fraud" in order to transfer millions of dollars from the real estate empire of the president's father, Fred Trump, to his children without paying the appropriate taxes.
"The Tax Department is reviewing the allegations in the NYT article and is vigorously pursuing all appropriate avenues of investigation," a spokesman from the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance said in an email to CNBC.

New York state tax officials are investigating allegations detailed in an exhaustive New York Times investigation into Donald Trump and his family's business dealings.

The Times reported on Tuesday that Trump and his family committed "instances of outright fraud" in order to transfer millions of dollars from the real estate empire of the president's father, Fred Trump, to his children without paying the appropriate taxes.

"The Tax Department is reviewing the allegations in the NYT article and is vigorously pursuing all appropriate avenues of investigation," a spokesman from the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance said in an email to CNBC.

Representatives from the White House and the Trump Organization did not return requests for comment.

In a statement to the Times, Trump lawyer Charles Harder denied any allegations of fraud and tax evasion, saying "the facts upon which The Times bases its allegations are extremely inaccurate."

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, in her response to the Times, backed up Trump's claims about his wealth, repeating the story that he took a $1 million loan from his father and paid it back. Trump said numerous times as a presidential candidate that he had received the "very small" $1 million loan from his father. But the newspaper's investigation found that Trump had actually been lent at least $60.7 million.

The article claims the Trump family committed "instances of outright fraud," with the president himself receiving today's equivalent of $413 million from the real estate holdings of his father, the Times reported while citing 100,000 documents and interviews with former family associates.

Meanwhile, the state tax department already is investigating the president's charity, the Trump Foundation. The president's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, has also been caught up in the tax department probe as he was subpoenaed by investigators in August,.

The probe came on the heels of a lawsuit by New York state Attorney General Barbara Underwood against the foundation, as well as Trump himself, claiming that he broke state and federal law by mismanaging the charity.

The state attorney general's office declined to comment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/new...legations-involving-trump-in-nyt-article.html

This is a Bombshell of a Investigation by the NYT, that investigated Trump's fraud for a year and a half. So, let us see what the right wingers on this board have to say about this whole affair!! No wonder why Trump will not release his tax returns.
 

bver_hunter

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WOW finally FRAUDSTER FRUMP has been outed. When will the impeachment happen??
 

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Trump U had no effect on him and his support, so this even if proven to be true will not stop him. Furthermore, even if Trump is found to have been a manchurian candidate, it would not stop him.
 

bver_hunter

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This is a real and 100% tax fraud. We all know that he lies all the time and his base believes his lies. But not a question of if but when the New York State Tax Department publishes it's report on the Fraudster Frump's fraudulent Tax returns, then both the Houses will be under pressure to impeach him!!
 

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Yup, the Trump family didn't retain very high powered tax attorneys to address this, and then doubtless paid their counsel no heed.
 

Frankfooter

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Yup, the Trump family didn't retain very high powered tax attorneys to address this, and then doubtless paid their counsel no heed.
Fortunately Weisselberg is now cooperating with Mueller.
Don't think you can buy your way out of that one.

The NYT article shows Trump to be a total fraud and tax cheat.
Not that it won't stop you from still supporting him.
 

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Here comes the impeachment!
 

danmand

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Yup, the Trump family didn't retain very high powered tax attorneys to address this, and then doubtless paid their counsel no heed.
It is not the very high powered tax attorneys that signs the tax returns, and they are not the ones going to jail either.

If you blindly rely on sleazy = very high powered tax attorneys, then you deserve to go to jail.
 

mandrill

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Yup, the Trump family didn't retain very high powered tax attorneys to address this, and then doubtless paid their counsel no heed.

I think the real punch of the article is the fraudulent valuation of Fred Trump's properties that the Trump family used to escape gift tax liabilities. Their high priced attorneys may have winked at that, but they're just there to give technical advice on the tax code. And who knows? The Trumps are folks who apparently used Michael Cohen for "legal advice"..... And Cohen was a shyster of no discernible legal talent at all.

The disclosures won't affect Trump's popularity with the WalMart Vote We know most of his base don't read the NYT and would think tax frauds on a grand scale simply proves how smart Trump is. OTOH, it's a dent in his persona as a "self made genius businessman". If we hadn't already guessed - and we had!! - Trump basically sucked on his dad's teat and then blew much of that $$ on ludicrous vanity projects.

NY State may investigate Trump on tax fraud charges and lay an indictment. We'll see how that plays out.
 

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If Trump were as successful as he claims, his tax returns would be an open book. The man’s a narcissist so if they painted a good picture, he’d publish them. I have always suspected that he was hitting hard times when he decided to run, never expecting to win, but hoping to raise his brand appeal via the publicity. Of course, Trump could end all speculation by releasing his returns but he likely won’t because they would shatter the myth of his business success.

When you look at how he deals - it’s pretty obvious that his main experience is stiffing supplier’s, contractors and creditors during bankruptcy.
 

Frankfooter

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If Trump were as successful as he claims, his tax returns would be an open book. The man’s a narcissist so if they painted a good picture, he’d publish them. I have always suspected that he was hitting hard times when he decided to run, never expecting to win, but hoping to raise his brand appeal via the publicity. Of course, Trump could end all speculation by releasing his returns but he likely won’t because they would shatter the myth of his business success.

When you look at how he deals - it’s pretty obvious that his main experience is stiffing supplier’s, contractors and creditors during bankruptcy.
Chances are he hasn't stopped using the same tax cheats that gave him so much of daddy's money.
Why would he stop if he's gotten away with it up until now?

I'd expect to see more of the same in his present taxes at the minimum.
Wonder what Weisselberg is telling Mueller right now.
 

toguy5252

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If Trump were as successful as he claims, his tax returns would be an open book. The man’s a narcissist so if they painted a good picture, he’d publish them. I have always suspected that he was hitting hard times when he decided to run, never expecting to win, but hoping to raise his brand appeal via the publicity. Of course, Trump could end all speculation by releasing his returns but he likely won’t because they would shatter the myth of his business success.

When you look at how he deals - it’s pretty obvious that his main experience is stiffing supplier’s, contractors and creditors during bankruptcy.
He is a completely invented persona. All limitations have probably passed and accordingly if there was illegality it may be of no legal consequence. The bigger issue is that it puts the lie to his fairy tale about being self-made. Doubtless his supporters could care less and they will be here defending him. Sad.
 
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