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Kavanaugh is definitly lying....testimony - picked apart...

Frankfooter

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Very long but very good read.
If the FBI is that thorough Kavanaugh will be disbarred for perjury.
 

essguy_

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Very long but very good read.
If the FBI is that thorough Kavanaugh will be disbarred for perjury.
The FBI is being limited in the scope of its investigations by the Whitehouse (who have asked for the report). Eg: apparently the FBI will NOT be looking in to his drinking. This is not a criminal investigation, merely an FBI background check for the Whitehouse. More for show is what I suspect. And Trump will be full of praise for the FBI when the report is done.

Edit - but I agree that Kavanaugh lied. I also said the same thing after his FOX interview. He lied. And the stupidest thing is, he didn’t have to lie (since drinking to excess in University is not unheard of). He CHOSE to lie. This is what should disqualify (That and his hyper partisan rant about the Clinton conspiracy against him). But th FBI will not be examining this angle.
 

bver_hunter

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Please try and hideout from Butler (so called Sanders supporter) & OnBottom. Butler will call it "Hilarious" and Onbottom will consider it to be "Tedious". They will be really hurt!!
 

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"I cannot prove that he committed sexual assault when he was 17, and I hesitate to draw conclusions about what happened for a few minutes in a house in Maryland in the summer of 1982."

Of course this doesn't stop Nathan J. Robinson, going on to make all sorts of strained accusations. An "event like this" doesn't mean one where sexual assaults occurred, it means small parties where there was drinking.
 

Frankfooter

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The FBI is being limited in the scope of its investigations by the Whitehouse (who have asked for the report). Eg: apparently the FBI will NOT be looking in to his drinking. This is not a criminal investigation, merely an FBI background check for the Whitehouse. More for show is what I suspect. And Trump will be full of praise for the FBI when the report is done.

Edit - but I agree that Kavanaugh lied. I also said the same thing after his FOX interview. He lied. And the stupidest thing is, he didn’t have to lie (since drinking to excess in University is not unheard of). He CHOSE to lie. This is what should disqualify (That and his hyper partisan rant about the Clinton conspiracy against him). But th FBI will not be examining this angle.
The FBI should be looking at his testimony in order to decide whether he's a credible witness, shouldn't they?
 

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"I cannot prove that he committed sexual assault when he was 17, and I hesitate to draw conclusions about what happened for a few minutes in a house in Maryland in the summer of 1982."

Of course this doesn't stop Nathan J. Robinson, going on to make all sorts of strained accusations. An "event like this" doesn't mean one where sexual assaults occurred, it means small parties where there was drinking.
Of course, what a couple of tipsy students did or didn't do three decades ago doesn't make Kavanaugh a good pick to be a Supreme Court Justice. In any case, uncertainty on that incident is all we have now, and may well still have after the FBI reports.

What we should considering is whether a guy who reacts, responds and argues as he did, might do so with the Supreme authority that black robe will confer.
 

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You should realize that the audience for this is 2-6 on the bubble Senators.

There are two scenarios:

The FBI finds substantial and credible support for the Judge on sexual assault, he will be withdrawn.

Anything short of that he will be confirmed.

The rest is tedious :playball:
 

nottyboi

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The FBI should be looking at his testimony in order to decide whether he's a credible witness, shouldn't they?
It speaks to the character of the man and his lack of integrity. He is clearly hiding something, UNDER OATH!!
 

mandrill

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You should realize that the audience for this is 2-6 on the bubble Senators.

There are two scenarios:

The FBI finds substantial and credible support for the Judge on sexual assault, he will be withdrawn.

Anything short of that he will be confirmed.

The rest is tedious :playball:

Depends how bubbly those 2-6 senators are.....

The FBI investigation keeps BK in the news cycle for another week. In that time, people can either become sick of the story and lose interest. Or they can remain fixated by it. If so, it remains a women's issue and some senators will have to choose whether to lose points with women's groups in their constituencies by voting for BK. Or whether to piss off McConnell and Trump by voting no.
 

Butler1000

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Please try and hideout from Butler (so called Sanders supporter) & OnBottom. Butler will call it "Hilarious" and Onbottom will consider it to be "Tedious". They will be really hurt!!
Actually I specifically called the article you pasted speculating that 500 agents should be on this hilarious.

What will happen is they will interview people who will say exactly the same things as already publicly stated.

And that's it.
 

jcpro

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You should realize that the audience for this is 2-6 on the bubble Senators.

There are two scenarios:

The FBI finds substantial and credible support for the Judge on sexual assault, he will be withdrawn.

Anything short of that he will be confirmed.

The rest is tedious :playball:
He has to get confirmed or the Republicans will tank in the midterms. On the other hand, Kavanaugh's confirmation will be a wet blanket on the Dems. I don't see why he wouldn't get confirmed as he was vetted numerous times by the FBI and the Congress and the accusations are just ridiculous.
 

essguy_

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He has to get confirmed or the Republicans will tank in the midterms. On the other hand, Kavanaugh's confirmation will be a wet blanket on the Dems. I don't see why he wouldn't get confirmed as he was vetted numerous times by the FBI and the Congress and the accusations are just ridiculous.
C'mon. IF the FBI are given the latitude to probe his drinking (and this is doubtful as Trump controls the scope of the review) I would guess that it would be pretty easy to demonstrate that he was less than truthful during testimony. Of course, it might be hard to charge perjury because he could simply argue that he passed out drunk in high school and University and had absolutely no personal recollection. But in my opinion, he was clearly lying (and the heads up for this was his FOX interview). It's always the lie which gets a person in trouble. Kavanaugh could have explained that like many other healthy, young high school kids, he got drunk a few times. And like many other University students he went to parties and sometimes drank too much. That by itself is NOT a crime. But since he chose to lie about it (in my opinion) then it raises all sorts of questions about his past - including his high levels of credit card debt (which he explained was due to the purchase of baseball tickets ($200,000 worth). The FBI might want to re-open that line of questioning to determine if it was actually a gambling habit gone out of control.
 

jcpro

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C'mon. IF the FBI are given the latitude to probe his drinking (and this is doubtful as Trump controls the scope of the review) I would guess that it would be pretty easy to demonstrate that he was less than truthful during testimony. Of course, it might be hard to charge perjury because he could simply argue that he passed out drunk in high school and University and had absolutely no personal recollection. But in my opinion, he was clearly lying (and the heads up for this was his FOX interview). It's always the lie which gets a person in trouble. Kavanaugh could have explained that like many other healthy, young high school kids, he got drunk a few times. And like many other University students he went to parties and drank too much. That by itself is NOT a crime. But since he chose to lie about it (in my opinion) then it raises all sorts of questions about his past - including his high levels of credit card debt (which he explained was due to the purchase of baseball tickets ($200,000 worth). The FBI might want to re-open that line of questioning to determine if it was actually a gambling habit gone out of control.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. FBI will return with the information they started with because there's nothing to go on. No location, no date, no witnesses- in other words, no evidence. That he got drunk or not is just bs and irrelevant to the case of the attempted rape- as the named by accuser witnesses deny or don't remember. Simply, you're at grasping at straws stage.
 

essguy_

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Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. FBI will return with the information they started with because there's nothing to go on. No location, no date, no witnesses- in other words, no evidence. That he got drunk or not is just bs and irrelevant to the case of the attempted rape- as the named by accuser witnesses deny or don't remember. Simply, you're at grasping at straws stage.
Wrong. Kavanaugh was the one who denied (under oath) to ever being passed out drunk. There are numerous conflicting reports, not the least of which is Mark Judge's memoirs (where the character "Bart O'Kavanaugh" is a heavy drinker and partier.) So now it's a question of his overall credibility which IS relevant to his denials.
 

jcpro

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Wrong. Kavanaugh was the one who denied (under oath) to ever being passed out drunk. There are numerous conflicting reports, not the least of which is Mark Judge's memoirs (where the character "Bart O'Kavanaugh" is a heavy drinker and partier.) So now it's a question of his overall credibility which IS relevant to his denials.
Hearsay.
 

Nathan 88

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It’s pretty obvious to most people who are looking at the facts and evidence that he definitely did lie under oath. The FBI will not be able to prove that he committed sexual assault. There are enough facts and evidence to suggest that he lied under oath, but that will be forgiven because of who he is.
He should not be confirmed but he will be.
 
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