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Incoming President of Mexico says that Canada HAS to be a part of any deal.

essguy_

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Incoming Mexican President: Andrés Manuel López Obrador has just stated that Canada MUST be a part of any trade deal involving the US. In other words, he is insisting upon a Trilateral deal.

Meanwhile the Trump Administration must submit text by this weekend in order to get their existing deal passed by Congress by Dec 1 (Before Obrador takes office). However, Trump only has fast track authority for a TRIlateral deal, not a bilateral. So it is questionable whether even the so called "deal" between Mexico and the US would pass in time. Obrador will NOT sign this deal if its not.

Time for Congress to get some balls and take trade back from the idiotic President - and that would include removing his authority to use Section 232 without Congressional approval.
 

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Incoming Mexican President: Andrés Manuel López Obrador has just stated that Canada MUST be a part of any trade deal involving the US. In other words, he is insisting upon a Trilateral deal.

Meanwhile the Trump Administration must submit text by this weekend in order to get their existing deal passed by Congress by Dec 1 (Before Obrador takes office). However, Trump only has fast track authority for a TRIlateral deal, not a bilateral. So it is questionable whether even the so called "deal" between Mexico and the US would pass in time. Obrador will NOT sign this deal if its not.

Time for Congress to get some balls and take trade back from the idiotic President - and that would include removing his authority to use Section 232 without Congressional approval.
I would allow the president to use 232 but only for 90 days without Congressional approval. Barring which it lapses and cannot be reinstated without congress or for 1 year.
 

kstanb

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Incoming president, he is a Mexican citizen until he get sworn. If the deal is already signed, then he can't do anything other than getting out of it completely
 

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He can always use the "sin perjuicio de la cláusula".
 

essguy_

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Incoming president, he is a Mexican citizen until he get sworn. If the deal is already signed, then he can't do anything other than getting out of it completely
The only way Trump can get a deal in before Dec 1 (when Obrador takes power) is if he submits text by Sunday. Using Fast Track Authority this would allow Congress to pass it by end of November. Here is Trump’s problem: Fast Track Authority was only granted for a NAFTA replacement, which mean trilateral. So there are already legal questions on whether a US/Mexican deal could be passed in time using Fast Track. That is why the Administration is doing BS like stating that the text would allow Canada to be written in later. That’s nonsense. This deadline has always been a US deadline and Trump’s problem, NOT Canada’s. So all the bullying and brinksmanship by Trump was to try to get Canada on board and give up everything (and get nothing) to get a deal. Canada has done exactly the right thing by waiting. Eg: Now Canada could give up something on dairy but get something back in return. If not: walk and let Trump risk not getting anything. Of course, Trump is such an insane imbecile he might just do that and send North America into chaos, but then nobody wins, including the US.

This has always been the obvious end game and it was frustrating and pathetic to hear people (mainly the surrender monkey CPC and their clueless supporters) cheer Trump’s tactics when they didn’t even realize why certain dates were deadlines (mistakenly thinking that Trump chose those dates as threats, when the deadlines were actually his problem, not his leverage). (These were the Aug 30th “deadline” to notify Congress of a deal and this Sunday’s “deadline” to submit text).

These deadlines ALWAYS existed because of the Fast Track Authority granted by Congress to pass this trade deal (normally Trade deals require 180 days). Trump needs a deal before November mid-terms and without Canada he will have to rely upon lies and the ignorance of his own supporters to pretend he has one.
 

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President-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asked him during a Thursday phone call "to intervene and call on the U.S. government to reach an agreement" with Canada on the renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement. "We agreed to that," Lopez Obrador told reporters in Mexico City. The president-elect also said he would insist on a trilateral pact. However, later Friday evening, Lopez Obrador's Senate leader, Ricardo Monreal, said Mexico wouldn't walk away from a bilateral agreement. "The ideal is a trilateral deal, but we're prepared for the possible need of a bilateral," he told Bloomberg News.
 
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