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FATAH: Bare-chested religious self-flagellation has no place on our streets

Zaibetter

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I like Tarek Fatah, he understands as a Muslim what's appropriate and what not. I wish these guys that want to cut themselves or beat themselves would go back to their countries. We need more vetting and seems like Justin the Groper doesn't want to do that. There are terrible pictures out there with guys covered with blood, they even crack open the scalp of little boys too.

For many years now, a medieval ritual is being enacted by Muslims on the streets of Canada to mourn the murder 1,400 years ago of Prophet Muhammad’s grandson Hussain Ibn Ali in the Iraqi city of Karbala. This is when his fellow Muslims loyal to the ruler of the Islamic Caliphate of the time slaughtered Prophet Muhammad’s entire progeny, save a few women and an ailing son.

To put this in perspective, the tragedy observed as ‘Ashura’ unfolded way back on Oct. 10, 680 AD.
The first time non-Muslim Canadians saw the spectacle of an ‘Ashura’ march was in 2010 when processions were held in cold weather in Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary and Montreal. Nothing other than mourning songs and symbolic light beating of the chest was displayed.

In the Middle East and the Indian Subcontinent, self-flagellation is not just beating of the chests in wild unison, but extends to whipping oneself with razor-sharp blades, the ritual of cracking skulls and bleeding baby boys with cuts on their heads.
This year, the self-flagellation ritual reached a point when last Sunday hundreds of young men took off their shirts on University Avenue facing the U.S. Consulate and started beating themselves in frightening unison.

A lawyer, originally from Lebanon, who was walking by the procession recognized what was happening and quickly recorded the scene taking place outside the 361 University Avenue Courthouse and sent it to the Toronto Sun.
Another recording emerged from 2017 that showed this practice of hundreds of shirtless men marching on our streets beating their bare chests and faces. This had happened without any objection by any politician, public figure or police.
I reached out to the candidates vying to be Toronto’s mayor and asked them if they would permit such public display of medieval rituals on our streets, if elected.

Mayor John Tory’s office said the group marching bare chested “would not have received a permit from a City Division for this activity. It would most likely be a protest, although a cultural ritual, as it was done in front of the US Consulate.”
John Tory did not address the question whether he would permit such a procession if elected.
His main rival in the race, Jennifer Keesmat, did not respond at first, but after I persisted, her office sent the following message:

“Thank you for writing into the campaign. We hear your feedback and appreciate you sharing it with us. We’ll pass it along to our team.”
The only candidate who did address the issue was Faith Goldy who has been portrayed as a pariah by much of the media elites and the political class.
Responding to my question, she wrote back: “The roots of this cultural practice have no connection to Canada while the spectacle itself is profoundly incongruent with Canadian Values. Mass demonstrations wherein shirtless men self-flagellate have no place on our shared publicly funded streets. As Mayor of Toronto I would see to it that such demonstrations were dispersed at once, while any infractions would be dealt with to the fullest extent of Canadian Law.”

The question is this: Why couldn’t John Tory or Jennifer Keesmat say the obvious and call a barbaric practice as ‘barbaric’? As long as the elites remain subservient to ethno-religious vote banks, let’s not blame the likes of Faith Goldy in Canada or Tommy Robinson in UK. All they do is fill a vacuum. The Swedish Democrats do it in Scandinavia. The CAQ does it in Quebec while Maxime Bernier is just warming up his engines. Calling them racist is the easy part.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...self-flagellation-has-no-place-on-our-streets
 

mandrill

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Congratulations! The Toronto Sun is now openly supporting neo Nazi Faith Goldy and criminal shit disturber Tommy Robinson and claiming that "the elites are subservient to ethno-religious vote banks" - whatever that means.

There were 50 or 60 guys slapping their chests and chanting. Weird. Not something I'd go out of my way to see. But not anything scary or barbaric. Far less violent that a pro football game. And guys without shirts are perfectly legal. It didn't even get news coverage in any media outlet. That means it probably didn't last long enough for any media to get there.

I didn't see anyone breaking the law. So how that is "profoundly incongruent with Canadian values" or how it should be forcibly dispersed? What's Tory to do with 60 guys who belly slap and chant for 5 minutes and then walk off? I think he's got FAR more important stuff to think about. Faith Goldy not so much. Unless she's getting a dress fitting done this afternoon.

Yawn.
 

Zaibetter

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Congratulations! The Toronto Sun is now openly supporting neo Nazi Faith Goldy and criminal shit disturber Tommy Robinson and claiming that "the elites are subservient to ethno-religious vote banks" - whatever that means.

There were 50 or 60 guys slapping their chests and chanting. Weird. Not something I'd go out of my way to see. But not anything scary or barbaric. Far less violent that a pro football game. And guys without shirts are perfectly legal. It didn't even get news coverage in any media outlet. That means it probably didn't last long enough for any media to get there.

I didn't see anyone breaking the law. So how that is "profoundly incongruent with Canadian values" or how it should be forcibly dispersed? What's Tory to do with 60 guys who belly slap and chant for 5 minutes and then walk off? I think he's got FAR more important stuff to think about. Faith Goldy not so much. Unless she's getting a dress fitting done this afternoon.

Yawn.
LOL That is so funny :rofl:

You change you answer several times, first you claimed the video didn't exist now it exists but you don't care for it . Then its the same as football players. :rofl:

Afterwards you brought in Goldy ....What a clown. You are so confused. Get a life !!!!
 

mandrill

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LOL That is so funny

You change you answer several times, first you claimed the video didn't exist now it exists but you don't care for it . Then its the same as football players.

Afterwards you brought in Goldy ....What a clown. You are so confused. Get a life !!!!
So you actually just sat down and watched your own thread for 10 minutes?! What a loser.

Are you going to respond to my answer?.... No. You have nothing to say. You post crap about Muslims 10 times a day. You don't even understand most of it.
 

Conil

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LOL That is so funny :rofl:

You change you answer several times, first you claimed the video didn't exist now it exists but you don't care for it . Then its the same as football players. :rofl:

Afterwards you brought in Goldy ....What a clown. You are so confused. Get a life !!!!

Pinkos seem to be blind when it comes to videos, in another Trudeau thread they couldn't see the video either.
 

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There were 50 or 60 guys slapping their chests and chanting. Weird. Not something I'd go out of my way to see. But not anything scary or barbaric.
You're smarter than this. Today it's 50 guys doing it. In the future it's tens or hundreds of thousands.
 

mandrill

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You're smarter than this. Today it's 50 guys doing it. In the future it's tens or hundreds of thousands.

Yeah, right. If the Muslim community has been here for 20 years and today it's 50 guys chest-pounding across from the US embassy, it's probably a 1-off.
 

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Perhaps it needs to be mentioned that these were obviously Shiite Muslims.
And certainly it needs to be said the Sun video shows no flagellation nor even chest-beating, and all the sneering above, is about a different incident — supposedly — somewhere else, and about statements that aren't actually in this thread.
 
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