Indeed, with Greens and People's Alliance holding six seats and the two traditional parties just one seat apart, it's stupid to be saying any Party "won". That sort of simple-mindedness belongs with the obsolete buggies and horse-races that gave us the FPTP metaphor.Not so fast.
Bloodbath?There doubtless were lights burning much of the night at Old Government House in Fredericton.
Three takeaways in some ways a bloodbath for the Liberals four ministers were defeated. Also a significant Language divide, most francophone ridings having voted Liberal and most anglophone ridings P.C. Finally a breakthrough for the Peoples Alliance which is philosophically more in line with the Progressive Conservatives.
Believe it likely the Progressive Conservatives will be asked to form the government, even when all the counting and the alliances are done it still comes down to one more seat
As you know, the real issue is whether they can win and keep winning votes in the House. Being asked is just the first small step.There doubtless were lights burning much of the night at Old Government House in Fredericton.
Three takeaways in some ways a bloodbath for the Liberals four ministers were defeated. Also a significant Language divide, most francophone ridings having voted Liberal and most anglophone ridings P.C. Finally a breakthrough for the Peoples Alliance which is philosophically more in line with the Progressive Conservatives.
Believe it likely the Progressive Conservatives will be asked to form the government, even when all the counting and the alliances are done it still comes down to one more seat
But it looks like they will retain power.Four ministers loosing their seats is a good morning for New Brunwick Liberals?
Let's see. It has almost to the person, the same population as Northern Ontario, which could similarly be a province on its own — distinct culture, geographic challenges, resource management and all that. North Dakota, Alaska, DC, Vermont and Wyoming (not to mention territories) are all smaller than either, and one shouldn't forget it was those low population levels that gave Li'l Donny his skewed Electoral advantage.Much as it's mildly encouraging to see Canadians waking up to being bought by Liberal governments with their own money PLUS loans taken out in our names, is there possibly a more irrelevant jurisdiction in Canada than New Brunswick?
It's well captured (albeit resisted, to good comic effect) in this David Myles song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6zoXjHNCi0
Until there is a vote on any issue. & that happens to be the purpose of the legislature.But it looks like they will retain power.
No one. By that system the professional pols will keep playing their games at the people's expense. The people who voted lost.Cons got 22 seats & 121,300 votes. Libs got 21 seats & 143,791 votes. Peoples Alliance 3 seats 47,860 votes; Greens 3 seats 45,186 votes; NDP 0 seats 19,039 votes. (25 seats required for majority).
Libs got one less seat, but 22,500 more votes. So .. who actually won?
That is the way I see it likely playing out.Until there is a vote on any issue. & that happens to be the purpose of the legislature.
Then the independents get to pick one of either the liberals or PCs to form a government
The greens line up with the liberals & Peoples Alliance sides with the PCs & then you have a New PC government by one seat
It's that dopey word win that's keeping you confused: Who 'won' your Senate elections? Where does it say that? What difference does it make? What matters is power.And Canadians make fun of the way we in the states elect our officials
So did the Conservatives win NB or not?
KK
A confidence vote with a switch of governments perhaps, but a new election? I'd bet not, for the reasons you've mentioned. Without serious Party policy reversals like "We were wrong to say what we did in the last election" the party standings might be tweaked just a touch, but it would suit all of them better to keep an inoffensive government (or governments) running while they gather strength and platform ideas for a serious push, and wait for someone else to shoot themselves in the foot.Whatever forms will not last. Looks right now that Gallant will remain Premier. With a Federal election in a year - there are very few windows of opportunity for a re-run without major election fatigue. So either this Govt falls really quickly, or there's a very shaky Govt in NB for at least a year and a half. With Gallant staying on as Premier - I would bet that a non-confidence vote will be a done deal at the first opportunity.
For good reason, it's just most other democracies should laugh at our elections the same way wecmock your, much for the same reason,, outdated system.And Canadians make fun of the way we in the states elect our officials
So did the Conservatives win NB or not?
KK
Seats are what counts in a parliamentary systemCons got 22 seats & 121,300 votes. Libs got 21 seats & 143,791 votes. Peoples Alliance 3 seats 47,860 votes; Greens 3 seats 45,186 votes; NDP 0 seats 19,039 votes. (25 seats required for majority).
Libs got one less seat, but 22,500 more votes. So .. who actually won?