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Ford snubs German delegation

Bud Plug

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Anbarandy

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If there are any cancellation costs they will be easily offset over time by what is saved by not purchasing overpriced power for the grid.

The best time to stop making a mistake is immediately!
Whatever may be "saved by not purchasing overpriced power over the grid'" will be easily be dwarfed by loss of foreign investment in Ontario due to the lack of confidence with the Despot's penchant for ripping up business investment contracts willy nilly, damn the consequences.

Fordtario is a dictatorial Banana Republic minefield for foreign investment. Why risk investment when you have a thin skinned hot head who will Section 33 any investor into financial oblivion should they triumph in a contractual dispute in a court of law?
 

nottyboi

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Yup, no one is gonna invest with Papa Doc Ford in power. And besides the stupidity of fucking investors, why on EARTH would you snub a delegation from a German state? Germany is one of the major economic powers on the planet and the defacto leader of the EU. Any idiot would understand that. Even dumber is the the moron does not understand they are white, christian and just as racist as the people that voted for him. If there is anyone he should be sucking up to, it the Germans!!!.
 

bver_hunter

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This is what Dumb DOFO is all about. Now we will have four more years of screwups!!
 

Bud Plug

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Whatever may be "saved by not purchasing overpriced power over the grid'" will be easily be dwarfed by loss of foreign investment in Ontario due to the lack of confidence with the Despot's penchant for ripping up business investment contracts willy nilly, damn the consequences.

Fordtario is a dictatorial Banana Republic minefield for foreign investment. Why risk investment when you have a thin skinned hot head who will Section 33 any investor into financial oblivion should they triumph in a contractual dispute in a court of law?
I trust you're exaggerating intentionally, because section 33 doesn't work that way (or really have anything to do with this discussion).

I think by "dictatorial Banana Republic" you must simply mean "democratically elected government". Despite all the wailing about "less than 50% of voters supported them", I'm pretty sure most people would rather be governed by a party that actually was able to win an election, rather than another party, or special interest group, that couldn't even do that.
 

JohnLarue

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Whatever may be "saved by not purchasing overpriced power over the grid'" will be easily be dwarfed by loss of foreign investment in Ontario due to the lack of confidence with the Despot's penchant for ripping up business investment contracts willy nilly, damn the consequences.

Fordtario is a dictatorial Banana Republic minefield for foreign investment. Why risk investment when you have a thin skinned hot head who will Section 33 any investor into financial oblivion should they triumph in a contractual dispute in a court of law?
Foreign investment in the private sector dwarfs what ever amount these specific companies were attempting to soak the provincial government for
That is where you need to be concerned about confidence which has been eroded by the provincial and federal liberals

The pipeline fiasco in particular has put investment in our oil patch on hold & the US tax cuts represent a bigger issue wrt capital drain than NAFTA

In the event you had not noticed , this province has a massive debt problem & interest rates are staring to increase, the probability of default is scary high
To avoid default in the next 15 -30 years the government can not continue to throw money away.
It is time to wake up
 

nottyboi

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Foreign investment in the private sector dwarfs what ever amount these specific companies were attempting to soak the provincial government for
That is where you need to be concerned about confidence which has been eroded by the provincial and federal liberals

The pipeline fiasco in particular has put investment in our oil patch on hold & the US tax cuts represent a bigger issue wrt capital drain than NAFTA

In the event you had not noticed , this province has a massive debt problem & interest rates are staring to increase, the probability of default is scary high
To avoid default in the next 15 -30 years the government can not continue to throw money away.
It is time to wake up
So then why act like a douche bag to a German delegation when Germans are major foreign investors?
 

Insidious Von

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Wrong, solar and wind power has become less expensive than nuclear power and far less damaging to Ontario's fresh water supply than hydroelectric. The cost of Green Power is front loaded, it depreciates over time.

This is a major stronzato by Dougie that Ontario will pay for by 2022. Your Powerstream bill will go up without the diversity. And Green Energy has been producing more jobs than in any other energy field....oh and there goes a potential VW/Audi plant in Ontario.

https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-energy/renewable-energy/public-benefits-of-renewable-power#.W6QuovZryUk
 

Frankfooter

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Foreign investment in the private sector dwarfs what ever amount these specific companies were attempting to soak the provincial government for
That is where you need to be concerned about confidence which has been eroded by the provincial and federal liberals

The pipeline fiasco in particular has put investment in our oil patch on hold & the US tax cuts represent a bigger issue wrt capital drain than NAFTA

In the event you had not noticed , this province has a massive debt problem & interest rates are staring to increase, the probability of default is scary high
To avoid default in the next 15 -30 years the government can not continue to throw money away.
It is time to wake up
You should read up on Puerto Rico, its yet another place where your favourite policies have fucked the state over.
https://www.gq.com/story/how-puerto-rico-became-tax-haven-for-super-rich
 

Boober69

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Wrong, solar and wind power has become less expensive than nuclear power and far less damaging to Ontario's fresh water supply than hydroelectric. The cost of Green Power is front loaded, it depreciates over time.

This is a major stronzato by Dougie that Ontario will pay for by 2022. Your Powerstream bill will go up without the diversity. And Green Energy has been producing more jobs than in any other energy field....oh and there goes a potential VW/Audi plant in Ontario.

https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-energy/renewable-energy/public-benefits-of-renewable-power#.W6QuovZryUk
How can it get any worse with Hydro rates tripling under the Liberal government?
The only people benefiting from green energy were all Wynne's friends that she gave lucrative contracts to. Good riddance.
 

Polaris

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Yup, no one is gonna invest with Papa Doc Ford in power. And besides the stupidity of fucking investors, why on EARTH would you snub a delegation from a German state? Germany is one of the major economic powers on the planet and the defacto leader of the EU. Any idiot would understand that. Even dumber is the the moron does not understand they are white, christian and just as racist as the people that voted for him. If there is anyone he should be sucking up to, it the Germans!!!.
This was a bad deal for Ontario, so good that Ford got rid of that.

The Germans do not own our asses (not yet at any rate).
 

Insidious Von

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Hamsters in search of new wheels.
Is your name Richard Gere? Don't quote my post if you're not going to read it.

Justin must be furious. All that work he put into CETA, he wooed Angela Merkel like a hot date. All because Dougie is too stupid to look after the interests of Ontario. He goes to Washington to pump his vanity and has no effect on NAFTA negotiations. Now where do you think the Germans are going to build that VW plant, it won't be in Ontario. Dougie could be Ontario's most destructive Premier since David Peterson.

And the cost of contaminating fresh water adds up, the PRC aren't advertising it. So much for their Belt and Road initiative if they're unable to deliver fresh water to their people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0nOvToNoc
 

Insidious Von

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McGuinty introduced The Green Energy Act in 2009, like everything he did it was half cocked. There were no provisions in the bill to outline how he was going to pay for new energy infrastructure. Then he made matters worse by backing away from the Oakville gas power plant. It was left to Wynne to implement it and she fucked it up, Hydro passed the cost to consumers. I have noticed that my Powerstream bill has gone down, not enough to make up the difference but it did take the financial sting out. Now if the wind and solar apparatus already in place is to be scrapped, expect Powerstream rates to go up. The hydro turbines cannot run on dirty water and we need more space to store spent fuel rods.

And while you're PMSing on Hydro rates have you not notice that the cost of clean water delivery has gone up %140 since 2008.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/water-and-sewer-rates-poised-to-increase-5-5-per-cent-in-2018-with-more-needed-over-10-years
 

Polaris

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Is your name Richard Gere? Don't quote my post if you're not going to read it.

Justin must be furious. All that work he put into CETA, he wooed Angela Merkel like a hot date. All because Dougie is too stupid to look after the interests of Ontario. He goes to Washington to pump his vanity and has no effect on NAFTA negotiations. Now where do you think the Germans are going to build that VW plant, it won't be in Ontario. Dougie could be Ontario's most destructive Premier since David Peterson.
This is knee jerk reaction in blaming the Ontario conservative government.

In terms of economics, if a company decides to build a factory to serve a market, why build in a jurisdiction subject to an import tariff? Since President Trump has warned that Canadian made autos will be subject to a tariff, no company will build a factory until there is clarity there, in terms of a new NAFTA deal, or no deal (and Canada shall be orphaned for real).

You are correct in blaming the reactionary. However you're blaming the wrong reactionary, as that should be President Trump who is blamed and not his Ford-ness.

Anyways ... anyone here going to Ford Fest this weekend?

:pizza:
 

Anbarandy

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I trust you're exaggerating intentionally, because section 33 doesn't work that way (or really have anything to do with this discussion).

I think by "dictatorial Banana Republic" you must simply mean "democratically elected government". Despite all the wailing about "less than 50% of voters supported them", I'm pretty sure most people would rather be governed by a party that actually was able to win an election, rather than another party, or special interest group, that couldn't even do that.
I trust you're genuflecting reflexively, because shredding contracts willy nilly as if it was a reflexive nervous addiction does not bode well for investing with confidence that the Dictator will honor contracts and agreements in the Banana Republic of Fordtario. This has already been disastrously proven to be true.

I think by "democratically elected government" you must simply be reflexively substituting your quaint euphemism for the "dictatorial Banana Republic" that Generalissimo Ford has institutionalized as his form of autocratic rule in the the province once known as Ontario. Despite all your wailing that 2.3million is greater than +10million, I'm pretty sure Ford actually has the interests of less than 1% of the 2.3million at heart, that being the special interest business lobby groups that he kowtows to.
 

nottyboi

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This was a bad deal for Ontario, so good that Ford got rid of that.

The Germans do not own our asses (not yet at any rate).
Who said they need to own our asses? The US seems intent to fucking us up the ass so maybe its best to find new powerful friends no?
 

Boober69

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Is your name Richard Gere? Don't quote my post if you're not going to read it.

Justin must be furious. All that work he put into CETA, he wooed Angela Merkel like a hot date. All because Dougie is too stupid to look after the interests of Ontario. He goes to Washington to pump his vanity and has no effect on NAFTA negotiations. Now where do you think the Germans are going to build that VW plant, it won't be in Ontario. Dougie could be Ontario's most destructive Premier since David Peterson.

And the cost of contaminating fresh water adds up, the PRC aren't advertising it. So much for their Belt and Road initiative if they're unable to deliver fresh water to their people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0nOvToNoc
The Liberals should not have signed a contract like that in an election year. But I guess the palm-greasing was too good to consider they may actually lose the election.
 
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