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#PlaidShirtGuy removed from Trump rally after viral facial expressions:

When U.S. President Donald Trump took the stage on Thursday at the Rimrock Auto Arena in Billings, Mo., it had all the trappings of his signature rallies.

A sea of red Make America Great Again hats. A smattering of blue Trump-Pence placards. A crowd standing behind Trump, carefully curated to telegraph maximum enthusiasm for the president and his message.

Except one.

Positioned just beyond Trump’s shoulder — and thus almost constantly visible throughout the televised event — was Tyler Linfesty, a 17-year-old senior from Billings West High School. He wore a plaid shirt, a hand-me-down from his brother. And where others zigged, Tyler zagged.

“We have the best economy in history!” Trump declared at one point in his speech, repeating a claim that has been fact-checked as false.

Tyler made a quizzical expression, then turned to look at his friend.

“The stock market is at record highs,” Trump said. “Unemployment is at record lows.”

Tyler raised his eyebrows and chewed his lip.

“And more Americans are working today than ever, ever, ever before!” Trump stated.

Tyler glanced upward and appeared to mouth: “Is that true?”

His facial expressions soon caught the attention of his friends, who had been watching the rally on TV and texted Tyler to say he was, um, extremely visible. It was around that point that Tyler took a “Democratic Socialists of America” sticker from his pocket and affixed it to his shirt, he said.

Tyler’s friends weren’t the only ones who noticed his face. Scores of other people watching the rally on television were quick to zero in on Tyler’s divergent reactions to Trump’s speech, like a real-time game of Where’s Waldo meets “One of these things is not like the others.” On social media, “the guy in the plaid shirt” quickly translated to #PlaidShirtGuy — and a meme was born.

Tyler said it was never his intent to troll Trump. Though he is not a Trump fan, per se, he had planned to attend the rally when he heard Trump would be visiting Montana because he didn’t want to miss an opportunity to see the president.

The day of the rally, Tyler was notified that he had been chosen at random for “VIP status,” meaning he would get to meet Trump for a photo op, he told The Washington Post.

“Before I got the picture and the handshake with Donald Trump, I asked him if me and my friends could sit behind him,” he said. “I had no idea I was going to be on Trump’s shoulder. I didn’t know it was going to be so zoomed in right on me and my friends. I didn’t know it was going to be like that at all.”

Everyone behind Trump was told to cheer and look as energized as possible. Tyler said his reactions — or his stone-faced lack of reaction while others were applauding — were simply him keeping it “real.” He clapped when Trump said Bernie Sanders had the Democratic nomination stolen from him. Though Tyler was too young to vote in the 2016 presidential election, he had been a big supporter of the senator from Vermont.

More often than not, though, Trump said things Tyler disagreed with.

“Whenever we thought he said something completely outrageous, we would look at each other and say, like, ‘Did he really just say that?’ ‘Did that really just happen?’” he said. “I wasn’t planning on trolling him or protesting. When I heard something that I disagreed with, I visibly disagreed. I had to be real with myself. I’m not going to pretend to support something I don’t support.”

It took Trump’s campaign team a while to zero in on Tyler and his friends, but sure enough, a woman in a black dress eventually could be seen walking up to Tyler onstage and taking his place. Shortly afterward, his two friends were also removed.

“I just saw her coming on my left, and all I heard her say was, ‘I’m going to replace you now,’” he said. “I knew I was getting removed because I wasn’t enthusiastic enough. I didn’t try to resist, so I just left.”

The Trump campaign did not return a request for comment Saturday morning.

The teen said some Secret Service members and local police escorted him to an area at the edge of the auditorium, where they asked for his ID and held him for about 10 minutes. They then, “in a nice way, asked me to leave and not return,” Tyler said.

“I’m not sure what they would have done if I didn’t leave,” he said. “I didn’t want to make a scene more than I already did.”

Tyler knew he had gone viral after he bumped into some friends outside the arena and they told him: you’re trending. And boy, was he. The Billings Gazette tracked him down and identified him as a senior at Billings West. The Daily Beast described Tyler’s facial expressions as “Jim Halpert-like.” He was interviewed on local news and invited to appear on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, still clad in the same plaid shirt.

Tyler said he expects the hubbub to fade soon.

“Things on the internet die quickly,” he said.

He’s more excited to finally turn 18 next month — in time to be able to vote in the upcoming midterm elections.

“Um, I don’t know when it started,” Tyler said of his interest in politics. “I’ve always just liked being informed. I like knowing what’s going on.”

He had, in fact, attended a rally with U.S. Vice-President Mike Pence the month before, also in Billings, with little fanfare.

“I don’t want to miss out on these opportunities,” Tyler said. “That was pretty different. There was no one sitting behind Mike Pence at that rally, so I got there really early and I sat in the front row. I was doing the same thing. I wasn’t clapping (when I disagreed with things he said). When I did agree, I would clap.”

He paused when asked to consider if he had reacted as nakedly to Pence’s speech as he had Thursday.

“I was probably making faces, too,” he said. “I don’t have a poker face at all.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...pressions.html

Watch the video of not only him but also his less than enthusiastic friends being removed from the rally, then watch the next segment of his interview with Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4pcZdJcpbs

Very, very interesting to understand what Trump and his supporters really are all about.
Trump will make America a nation of "Believers of his Lies".
 

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That is hilarious. Why were the others led out though? His friends looked like Trump fans. Oh and were they sent to re-education camps, or has Betsy DeVos not set those up yet?
 

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That is hilarious. Why were the others led out though? His friends looked like Trump fans. Oh and were they sent to re-education camps, or has Betsy DeVos not set those up yet?
Obviously, the other two were also not buying all the nonsense being spewed out by Trump. That guy even took off his MAGA hat and must have been happy to get away from that silly rally.
It looked like a comedy show, by the way this whole setup was staged. No wonder these Trumptard Cult Followers then try to pick on the CNN and other MSM media that are recording these staged events. On the other hand Obama's speech was conducted in a a far more professional manner.
 

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I just posted a thread about this and then saw this one...LOL.


Plaid shirt guy' dared to question Trump

Donald Trump doesn't like to be criticized. Time and time again, he has lashed out at those who dare utter an unkind word about him -- be they members of Congress, the media or even late-night comedians.

But now Team Trump apparently has a new demand: Enthusiastically cheer Trump or be banished.

That's the lesson that 17-year-old Tyler Linfesty, now known as "plaid shirt guy," found out at Trump's campaign rally last Thursday in Montana. Linfesty, a high school senior, was positioned directly behind Trump during his speech. But, a short time into the speech, a person involved with the rally approached him and stated: "I'm gonna replace you."

Had Linfesty been booing? No. Did he heckle Trump? Negative. Did he hold up a sign that mocked Trump? Once again, that's a no. Though he was never given a formal reason, Linfesty believes his "misconduct" that merited ejection was his lack of fanatical devotion to Trump, the beloved headliner.

Linfesty didn't attend the rally planning to protest Trump. He's simply a young man who wanted to see the President of the United States speak in his home state. And, as fate would have it, he was randomly chosen by the Trump campaign for "VIP status."

Next thing you know, Linfesty is being seated behind Trump for his speech. But not before he says he was told the rules by a person working on the event: "You have to be enthusiastic, you have to be clapping, you have to be cheering for Donald Trump."

Well the problem for Team Trump is that Linfesty is an intelligent young American who questions statements he hears from politicians. You know, the way we all should. So, during the speech, Linfesty, as he explained to CNN's Don Lemon, applauded the parts of Trump's speech he agreed with, such as when the President "railed against NAFTA."

But when Linfesty didn't agree with what Trump stated, he didn't cheer. "I had to be real with myself. I'm not going to pretend to support something I don't support," the high school senior explained.

And as a person with critical thinking skills, Linfesty expressed his sentiments through subtle facial gestures. For example, when Trump brought up the 2016 election results (yes, it's 20 months later and Trump clearly still hasn't come to terms with Hillary Clinton drubbing him by nearly 3 million votes in the popular election) and claimed it's harder to win the electoral college than the popular vote, Linfesty looked skeptical.

And when Trump shared his strategy of how he could've easily won the popular vote with the line, "you go to three or four states, then boom-boom-boom ... you win," we could see Linfesty subtly turn to people near him and mouth, "What?”

Again, at no time did Linfesty heckle or try to interrupt Trump's speech, but apparently Linfesty showing the slightest bit of independent thought in a sea of Trump supporters was just too much of a threat. Who knows what happens if others in the audience saw a person not conforming and actually questioning the outlandish claims and lies of Trump? That's how revolutions start!

Okay, maybe a few subtle facial gestures wouldn't actually spark an uprising, but it did get Linfesty booted from his seat. And even more troubling was that Linfesty was then detained by the United States Secret Service: "Some Secret Service guys escorted me into this backroom area, and they just sat me down for 10 minutes." According to Linfesty, after being held in custody for simply not cheering enough for Trump, he was then released by the Secret Service and told that he should not come back.

The idea that a United States citizen was thrown out of a rally that was headlined by the President, simply for not cheering fanatically enough, and was then held in custody by the Secret Service, should alarm anyone who cherishes freedom of expression. It conjures up rogue nations like North Korea, where political dissent is met with swift government action to silence it.

In fact, on Thursday, we saw a startling development involving North Korea and Trump. On Thursday morning, Trump took to Twitter to thank North Korea's brutal dictator Kim Jong Un for saying he had "unwavering faith in President Trump." But that same evening, a young American was ejected from a rally for failing to show "unwavering" support for Trump.

The good news is that Linfesty will soon be 18 and able to vote. The hope is that he and others like him who refuse to accept the prospect of a nation where we must cheer our leader -- even when he lies -- or face consequences, will make their voices heard in the election booth.

That is still one place from which Trump can't banish us.


https://twitter.com/cnnopinion/status/1038806759329083392?s=21
 

bver_hunter

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The guy was harmless and having fun. No foul there.

But at the same time, if you're not 100% there for the person, why bother?
I recall Alex Jones paying people to wear Bill Clinton shirts at HC Rallies and that's what people did. Like this
Man Thrown Out at Hillary Rally Wearing Bill Clinton Rape Shirt

I don't like seeing that stuff. Its needless, and disruptive. It also reflects the other supporters in a poor manner.
In that video that you posted that particular guy who wore that shirt is always present at all Trump rallies. He clearly was there to disrupt the Clinton rally with his loud derogatory remarks about Clinton's husband.
Remember that the ones who were anti-Trump and sat silently were thrown out of the Trump rallies and even assaulted by the Trump supporters in the 2016 rallies.
At this particular Trump rally this individual had no derogatory signs and his buddies even wore the MAGA hats. Big difference!!
 

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The guy was harmless and having fun. No foul there.

But at the same time, if you're not 100% there for the person, why bother?
I recall Alex Jones paying people to wear Bill Clinton shirts at HC Rallies and that's what people did. Like this
Man Thrown Out at Hillary Rally Wearing Bill Clinton Rape Shirt

I don't like seeing that stuff. Its needless, and disruptive. It also reflects the other supporters in a poor manner.
Oh, so all the paid protesters were Republican and not democrats?
After all this time....
 

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No, and that's a valid point.
Not sure if Alex Jones created protesters, as much as it was random pain in the asses, but you make a good point.
That sounds like protesters.
That's also the first real evidence I've seen from either side.
 

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Yes, that's why I agree with you. Saying no harm/foul by the plaid shirt guy. But the guy wearing the Bill Clinton shirt was specifically there to disrupt and be a problem.

I just added, that if not 100% there for supporting, why bother come out at all?
The plaid shirt guy has stated that he supports some Trump measures (eg axing NAFTA, where he clapped with the rest when Trump mentioned). Besides, he didn’t want to pass up an opportunity to see his President. And remember, he wasn’t disrespectful, he was just reacting naturally to whoppers and lies from the Trump with facial expressions. (I.e, he was thinking independently vs clapping like a moron). Examples of countries which demand 100% mindless enthusiasm for the dear leader include North Korea and some banana republics. Is that where the US wants to head?

But by far the stupidest aspect of this was replacing the guy mid-speech. That was hilarious and likely the main reason people went back and studied the video. Without the distraction of replacing the background, very few people would have noticed in real time.
 

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That is hilarious. Why were the others led out though? His friends looked like Trump fans. Oh and were they sent to re-education camps, or has Betsy DeVos not set those up yet?

Given the usual intellectual calibre of Trump voters, don't you mean "de-education camps"?
 

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I get the kid liked 'some' of Trump policies, and not others. I'm in the same boat. But disagree you are acting 'natural' and not disrespecting someone the way he was going on.

You make many intelligent post, and thoughts. Deep down, I know you don't believe that is normal behavior. Its called respect, and maturity to simply just maintain a smile or straight face when the POTUS is speaking and you don't agree with something he might have said. Making goofy eyes, and carrying on, isn't normal. Its behavior you expect in a school auditorium by a jokester teen.

Its not mindless enthusiasm or imposing communist dictatorship to suggest someone show simple maturity towards a Nations leader when speaking. Especially if you are genuine about being in attendance.

Plus, true to form, CNN runs in to sensationalize the story, almost on cue.



You could be right, but it was also a safety measure too. Clearly the guy was not going to be the ideal image, and the longer he remained there, the more comfortable he would get.
How many times has someone jumped on live TV to scream "FHRITP"?

The guy could have remained doing silly facial expressions, but could also have stepped up his sense of humor. The best course would be remove the risk.

Completely disagree. Trump and the organizers decided to put this group of TEENAGERS behind him. That's their risk which they took - normal teen behaviour. When I was 17 I would have reacted exactly like plaid shirt guy did when hearing an obvious lie from a person who is supposedly in a position of great authority. Remember - his reactions were to whoppers and exaggerations. And in raising my kids - I certainly don't want them to be used as mindless sheep/braindead backdrops. THAT is disrespectful ...to the kids. Further, this guy is obviously smart, politically aware, informed and quite mature and funny when you see him in the CNN interview. He's NOT a Trump hater - just a person who has beliefs. I applaud that. That's the risk when you use people (especially teenagers) as an artificial background. Some actually have an independent brain, and use it.

And it wasn't just CNN who noticed this and ran with the story. Most importantly - what made it a story was the decision to remove them in mid-speech. THAT is the story here, and it's hilarious. It made the "thumbs up" by the junior Barbies who replaced "plaid shirt guy and his friends" look even more dumb and ridiculous.

Full disclosure: I don't like the use of people as background for any politician and never have from the first time I saw it done - and yes - they all do it. It is the stupidest thing, IMO, to have a group of people whose only role is to stare at the BACK of the speaker and clap on demand. Even Canadian politicians have started doing this and it's a joke. I hope more people do what "plaid shirt guy" did and maybe this practice will end.
 

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We'll have to remain at odd with this being 'normal' teen behavior then. Were not going to be able to agree on this point.

If this was normal behavior, then we would see it all the time, at everyone's rallies. Also, age should not be a justification either.

It doesn't matter ( this is simply where we disagree ) if you are hearing a whopper as you put it. Obama, Hillary Clinton, George Bush, Trump, all are guilty. But if you are in attendance to something important like this, you show respect to the event and person speaking. You disagree by holding any applause, not making silly faces on live TV

Well, having been to many political rallies - i can tell you that decorum is all over the map. Yes, you are supposed to be loud, cheer, show enthusiasm - but this is a rally. Not a eulogy or Commencement speech, or Inauguration. This was a rally. In my mind there are two choices here: Demand behaviour and be like North Korea, or accept that we live in a free society where people can still hold differing opinions. Further - I would say that "plaid shirt guy" gave a great example of how to show dissent in a way that is harmless, effective, and even entertaining. Critics say that the "plaid shirt guy" pulled a "stunt". In fact: the stunt was using people as a backdrop. It failed.
 

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Just wanted to point out that the "plaid shirt guy" was preceded by our own Jim Flaherty - In Oct 2013 Flaherty was caught rolling his eyes while Harper told his whoppers about Nigel Wright in the House of Commons. There was a lot of speculation at the time that Flaherty did not agree with how the Duffy scandal was being handled and there was talk of friction. Flaherty looked like he had had enough of the BS and resigned a few months later and unfortunately died VERY soon thereafter (last person to see him alive was Dr. Kellie Leitch....) So Jim Flaherty was our own Canadian "plaid shirt guy"... LOL.

Rest in peace, "Jimbo"....


Here's the video which shows that even our Parliamentarians cannot resist the odd human reaction to a whopper.

https://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/25/the-eye-roll-a-viral-video-pulls-the-late-jim-flaherty-into-the-duffy-debate/
 

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Given how highly staged Trump Rallies are it is interesting that QANON continually maintains such a strong presence at these events.


 

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I get the kid liked 'some' of Trump policies, and not others. I'm in the same boat. But disagree you are acting 'natural' and not disrespecting someone the way he was going on....
Damn right. No one should disrespect Trump by questioning his lies.
 
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