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The op-ed has been attacked by Trump and his inner circle as being cowardly and aides and advisors have been publicly denying they wrote it.

The funniest part of all this is there isn't a person out there who disputes the content of the letter or its description of Trump. People have denied writing it. Most critics just think the author should have identified himself. But the contents were bang-on re: Trump. Even Republicans are publicly stating regret that the letter expressed nothing that wasn't known before and that it will now be harder to reign in the President. In other words, the letter is 100% true. Even Melania didn't dispute anything said about her husband - she said: “To the writer of the op-ed — you are not protecting this country; you are sabotaging it with your cowardly actions”. This could be read that she fears the resistance's cover has been blown.

This is the leakiest Whitehouse in history. So how about this speculation: The Op Ed was written by eg: Stephen Miller to expose what everybody knew and to give his boss another perfect excuse to ignore advisors who WERE trying to reign him in (except for the handful of kooks he trusts) going forward? Maybe Trump even knew that Miller (or somebody else - KellyAnn) was going to write it and was advised of the strategy. After all, what better excuse to bunker down ("bunker" used intentionally) and toss out good advice (which the moronic Trump views as annoying)?
 
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The reason why there is no push back on content is because it is beside the point. Politically speaking, a push back would give credibility and muddle the issue. The issue being- an unelected and, most likely, unconfirmed(by Congress) bureaucracy flexing its muscle and reaching for the power of an elected official. That's a third world bullshit and NOBODY gets to do that in a Constitutional Republic and get away with it.
 
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jcpro said:
The reason why there is no push back on content is because it is beside the point. Politically speaking, a push back would give credibility and muddle the issue. The issue being- an unelected and, most likely, unconfirmed(by Congress) bureaucracy flexing its muscle and reaching for the power of an elected official. That's a third world bullshit and NOBODY gets to do that in a Constitutional Republic and get away with it.
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Ironic isn't it? Third world tactics to attempt to control a moronic President who has a third world leader's instincts. That's why it's not implausible to think that one of Trump's inner circle wrote the Op-ed to blow the cover of the so called "resistance" ("Resistance" being what used to be known as advising the President in the best way possible, including disagreeing) and give more power to the very very small echo chamber that Trump surrounds himself with.
 
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The only strategy for the "resistance" IF it exists is for somebody to step forward and sacrifice himself/herself as the author (even if they weren't). This would give closure and allow the other members to attempt to get back on track protecting the country. Without a scapegoat, Trump will just isolate himself, listening only to the voices in his head and rejecting even that small sliver of outside advice that made it into his thick skull. The only people he will trust will be the dick-sucks like Miller and his immediate family.
 
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essguy_ said:
Ironic isn't it? Third world tactics to attempt to control a moronic President who has a third world leader's instincts. That's why it's not implausible to think that one of Trump's inner circle wrote the Op-ed to blow the cover of the so called "resistance" ("Resistance" being what used to be known as advising the President in the best way possible, including disagreeing) and give more power to the very very small echo chamber that Trump surrounds himself with.
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I don't see anything ironic, here. I do see confirmation of the existence of the deep state- something I was sceptical about. Turns out Trump was right all along, about the wire tapping, conspiracy within the DOJ and now ...this.
 
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I don't see anything ironic, here. I do see confirmation of the existence of the deep state- something I was sceptical about. Turns out Trump was right all along, about the wire tapping, conspiracy within the DOJ and now ...this.
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Isn't that convenient. The "Deep State" trying to confound our intrepid hero. The KISS principle points to a paranoid, incompetent, moronic, narcissistic President being advised by his advisors and not liking it. So the "Deep State" will be used as an excuse to govern the US like a quasi-monarchy with Trump as Emperor. The "Deep State" was merely trying to point out that the Emperor is naked. Much simpler explanation than assuming that Trump is in any way fit for office.
 
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That's some serious paranoia going on there. The OP Ed is now a Trump plant?

I thought it was a confirmation?

Oh wait........RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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That's some serious paranoia going on there. The OP Ed is now a Trump plant?

I thought it was a confirmation?

Oh wait........RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL. A guy who justifies his predictable diversions (aka: undying love and support) for an unhinged President because of the “Deep State” talking about paranoia. Too funny. Look up “irony”, Butler.

A Trump loyalist writing the Op Ed is actually very simple Art of War tactics. No grand conspiracy needed, just a simple anonymous interview with a newspaper that is clearly anti-Trump and voila: an “enemy”, maybe even the “Deep State” trying to subvert poor Trump. Now he has an excuse to simply act on impulse with no input from Advisors he doesnt trust, just nods of agreement from his inner circle.
 
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essguy_ said:
Isn't that convenient. The "Deep State" trying to confound our intrepid hero. The KISS principle points to a paranoid, incompetent, moronic, narcissistic President being advised by his advisors and not liking it. So the "Deep State" will be used as an excuse to govern the US like a quasi-monarchy with Trump as Emperor. The "Deep State" was merely trying to point out that the Emperor is naked. Much simpler explanation than assuming that Trump is in any way fit for office.
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In our system, American or Canadian, it is enough that the voters decide if the leader is fit for office. Your personal opinion on his abilities or fitness or style is just that- an opinion. A voice among millions of voices. Ultimately no man and no party is indispensable nor bigger than the country nor the founding philosophy. The moment one begins to think that way, the democracy enters the path of self destruction. Thus far, Trump has acted within the Constitution and within the accepted traditions and norms. The new, constructionist composition of the Supreme Court only reinforces that. In due course, either through the next election or the 22nd Amendment, Trump will vacate his office and we will move to the next "crisis".
 
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LOL. A guy who justifies his predictable diversions (aka: undying love and support) for an unhinged President because of the “Deep State” talking about paranoia. Too funny. Look up “irony”, Butler.

A Trump loyalist writing the Op Ed is actually very simple Art of War tactics. No grand conspiracy needed, just a simple anonymous interview with a newspaper that is clearly anti-Trump and voila: an “enemy”, maybe even the “Deep State” trying to subvert poor Trump. Now he has an excuse to simply act on impulse with no input from Advisors he doesnt trust, just nods of agreement from his inner circle.
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Yup......definitely RUSSIA!!!!!!!!
 
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Anyone remember who shot J.R. ?
 
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jcpro said:
Ultimately no man and no party is indispensable nor bigger than the country nor the founding philosophy. The moment one begins to think that way, the democracy enters the path of self destruction. Thus far, Trump has acted within the Constitution and within the accepted traditions and norms.
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LOL!!!

Oh the fuckin irony of it all!!!


LOL!!!!
 
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For Trump fans benchmarks for “accepted traditions and norms” are formed watching Apprentice re-runs, or Big Brother.

Makes more sense that this op ed was a simple diversion and excuse for Trump’s very small inner circle to exclude all outside advice and increases their own power and influence. i.e. the perfect boogyman. Beware the “Deep State!!”

Things are about to get much crazier, I believe.
 
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essguy_ said:
For Trump fans benchmarks for “accepted traditions and norms” are formed watching Apprentice re-runs, or Big Brother.

Makes more sense that this op ed was a simple diversion and excuse for Trump’s very small inner circle to exclude all outside advice and increases their own power and influence. i.e. the perfect boogyman. Beware the “Deep State!!”

Things are about to get much crazier, I believe.
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The oped disagrees with the style and questions decisions. Ok, so? How is that a problem outside of pure perception and ideological differences? That's what Wolff wrote or Woodward. Of course, they're the media. In what circumstances of personal integrity this staffer contributed his opinion for publication is another matter.
 
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jcpro said:
The oped disagrees with the style and questions decisions. Ok, so? How is that a problem outside of pure perception and ideological differences? That's what Wolff wrote or Woodward. Of course, they're the media. In what circumstances of personal integrity this staffer contributed his opinion for publication is another matter.
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Maybe you’re missing the point of this thread. I was merely speculating that another possible reason for this OP ED was to assist Trump and his inner circle to shutter themselves, ignore advice, purge enemies, and act without oversight. In other words, the OP Ed was timed to be a false flag of “resistance” that diverts attention from Trump’s very real incompetence and possible mental health issues. In other words, the integrity of the person is moot because the “resistance” doesn’t exist as a formal enemy of the Administration. Trump and his small inner circle simply dont like receiving advice from experts that conflicts with what they have already decided. So this false flag gives them an excuse to ignore ALL outside advice as not trustworthy.

You have to admit that it is simple, logical, and makes sense as ONE alternative possibility about the source of the OP Ed.
 
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essguy_ said:
Maybe you’re missing the point of this thread. I was merely speculating that another possible reason for this OP ED was to assist Trump and his inner circle to shutter themselves, ignore advice, purge enemies, and act without oversight. In other words, the OP Ed was timed to be a false flag of “resistance” that diverts attention from Trump’s very real incompetence and possible mental health issues. In other words, the integrity of the person is moot because the “resistance” doesn’t exist as a formal enemy of the Administration. Trump and his small inner circle simply dont like receiving advice from experts that conflicts with what they have already decided. So this false flag gives them an excuse to ignore ALL outside advice as not trustworthy.

You have to admit that it is simple, logical, and makes sense as ONE alternative possibility about the source of the OP Ed.
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The flaw in your theory is that the Woodward book, the Omarosa book and that first book Fire and Fury(?) all said much the same shit about the Dangerous Dingbat of Dementia.
 
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The flaw in your theory is that the Woodward book, the Omarosa book and that first book Fire and Fury(?) all said much the same shit about the Dangerous Dingbat of Dementia.
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Oh, I’m not suggesting that Administration officials are not trying to conduct their individual duty to protect the Constitution. In fact I am sure of it. But an organized “resistance”? And if it existed, why blow the cover when Trump is in office for another two years? That makes no sense.

The Woodward book was no secret, so it would be perfect timing to get ahead of the story by exaggerating the resistance to make it seem like a “Deep State” problem. This shifts the story from Patriots protecting the country and Constitution from an insane, incompetent moron President, to the evil “Deep State” subverting Trump’s efforts to “drain the swamp.” It’s a subtle shift that plays right into his base’s paranoia and deflects from his own corruption, incompetence, and swampiness.
 
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essguy_ said:
Oh, I’m not suggesting that Administration officials are not trying to conduct their individual duty to protect the Constitution. In fact I am sure of it. But an organized “resistance”? And if it existed, why blow the cover when Trump is in office for another two years? That makes no sense.

The Woodward book was no secret, so it would be perfect timing to get ahead of the story by exaggerating the resistance to make it seem like a “Deep State” problem. This shifts the story from Patriots protecting the country and Constitution from an insane, incompetent moron President, to the evil “Deep State” subverting Trump’s efforts to “drain the swamp.” It’s a subtle shift that plays right into his base’s paranoia and deflects from his own corruption, incompetence, and swampiness.
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Like he's actually smart enough to do that?!
 
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Like he's actually smart enough to do that?!
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True, but maybe it was somebody else who would benefit from this (and Trump doesn't even know). Navarro, Miller, Ross, Kushner...? All would benefit from a paranoid Trump deaf to advice except his inner circle.

There are lots of flaws, but after a day, can’t help thinking that a resistance blowing it’s own cover makes the least sense if it truly existed.
 
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essguy_ said:
Oh, I’m not suggesting that Administration officials are not trying to conduct their individual duty to protect the Constitution. In fact I am sure of it. But an organized “resistance”? And if it existed, why blow the cover when Trump is in office for another two years? That makes no sense.

The Woodward book was no secret, so it would be perfect timing to get ahead of the story by exaggerating the resistance to make it seem like a “Deep State” problem. This shifts the story from Patriots protecting the country and Constitution from an insane, incompetent moron President, to the evil “Deep State” subverting Trump’s efforts to “drain the swamp.” It’s a subtle shift that plays right into his base’s paranoia and deflects from his own corruption, incompetence, and swampiness.
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It's all speculation but I agree. Why would someone working inside the White house write an op-ed that buys them nothing and serves no purpose other than to trigger a witch hunt that could possibly blow their cover or worse?

On the other hand the Trump camp can say see what we're up against, they can blame just about anything on the deep state bogeyman.
 
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