CNN Boldly Decides It No Longer Needs Reliable Sources

This is just the same old same old Lanny Davis nonsense (about some spurious moral duty to retract hearsay and rumours accurately reported as unsubstantiated hearsay and rumours, because they later turned out to be:— … untrue hearsay and rumours!!! when the truth was reported) which is already running to multiple pages in other threads. Perhaps you could be helpful and bold-face the few bits that might be new. Or interesting

oldjones said:

This is just the same old same old Lanny Davis nonsense (about some spurious moral duty to retract hearsay and rumours accurately reported as unsubstantiated hearsay and rumours, because they later turned out to be:— … untrue hearsay and rumours!!! when the truth was reported) which is already running to multiple pages in other threads. Perhaps you could be helpful and bold-face the few bits that might be new. Or interesting

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Yes, because when Trump is involved there's no need for accountability in journalism. Especially at the CNN.

jcpro said:

Yes, because when Trump is involved there's no need for accountability in journalism. Especially at the CNN.

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The issue isn't with CNN, its with Cohen's lawyer who told CNN something, realized it incriminated his client, and then tried to retract it.
CNN says they have confirmation of the same claim, that Trump knew about the Don Jr/Russia meeting at Trump tower.

jcpro said:

Yes, because when Trump is involved there's no need for accountability in journalism. Especially at the CNN.

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Only if you say so.

Thing is the folks calling for a retraction wouldn't care, even if they if they got what they're still screaming for weeks later. Anyone who actually cares about the facts got them long ago, as they became known. From CNN among others.

As far as sources go, CNN's have been accurately described in their coverage all along, not so much of that in the secondhand alt-media the usual suspects insist on cluttering these pages with. In a free press democracy, accountability comes from withholding your eyeballs if you don't like the coverage, no other way.

If anyone wants to start a campaign to get lotsa people turning away from CNN, they'd better find some arguments that change people's opinions. The sorta stuff in the OP was always aimed at the already brainwashed, and suffers by repetition.

Frankfooter said:

The issue isn't with CNN, its with Cohen's lawyer who told CNN something, realized it incriminated his client, and then tried to retract it.
CNN says they have confirmation of the same claim, that Trump knew about the Don Jr/Russia meeting at Trump tower.

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The "anonymous" source confirmation WAS THE LAWYER. That's the problem.

oldjones said:

Only if you say so.

Thing is the folks calling for a retraction wouldn't care, even if they if they got what they're still screaming for weeks later. Anyone who actually cares about the facts got them long ago, as they became known. From CNN among others.

As far as sources go, CNN's have been accurately described in their coverage all along, not so much of that in the secondhand alt-media the usual suspects insist on cluttering these pages with. In a free press democracy, accountability comes from withholding your eyeballs if you don't like the coverage, no other way.

If anyone wants to start a campaign to get lotsa people turning away from CNN, they'd better find some arguments that change people's opinions. The sorta stuff in the OP was always aimed at the already brainwashed, and suffers by repetition.

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Let me bottom.line this for you. CNN run a fake story. Fake means not true. And when they were exposed, they refused to acknowledge it, let alone apologize and retract. Something, btw, the print media did after they realized that they've been had on the same issue. It has nothing to do with all.righ, left or center. CNN fucked up and then doubled down. And now, you're defending it....

frankfooter said:

the issue isn't with cnn, its with cohen's lawyer who told cnn something, realized it incriminated his client, and then tried to retract it.
Cnn says they have confirmation of the same claim, that trump knew about the don jr/russia meeting at trump tower.

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lol!!!

jcpro said:

Let me bottom.line this for you. CNN run a fake story. Fake means not true. And when they were exposed, they refused to acknowledge it, let alone apologize and retract. Something, btw, the print media did after they realized that they've been had on the same issue. It has nothing to do with all.righ, left or center. CNN fucked up and then doubled down. And now, you're defending it....

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Not at all; I'm trying to get across the silly pointlessness of demanding a retraction that won't be coming. Just makes the whiners look stupid.

Fake actually means a deliberately false creation presented as genuine. 'Fake' is an entirely inaccurate way to describe their report of what a source who refused to be named told them. If they'd been able to verify the story, or find a better source, they wouldn't have left the report attributed to one anonymous source. They told you what they heard; any one who swallowed that meagre and dubious morsel without a large dose of salt shouldn't be asking for a retraction. They should be queuing up for Elementary Media Literacy.

If you don't like how CNN handled the later developments that proved their initial source had it wrong, you certainly get to say so, and to stop watching until they make amends. You can even tell their advertisers you're not buying their products. And you can try to use sweet reason and appropriate language to persuade people who don't think as you do to join your effort. But whining on TERB about what you demand from CNN to make your part of the political spectrum less unhappy is pointless.

Again CNN are adamant that they have a second source who will corroborate that story. They are refusing to release the identity of that individual for a precise reason.
This useless right wing media that OP posted makes no sense at all. As usual the Trumptard right wing cult followers will be the only ones that will believe this horse manure!!

bver_hunter said:

Again CNN are adamant that they have a second source who will corroborate that story. They are refusing to release the identity of that individual for a precise reason.
This useless right wing media that OP posted makes no sense at all. As usual the Trumptard right wing cult followers will be the only ones that will believe this horse manure!!

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And at this point because of the retraction by the lawyer they are screwed. Every other news source had retracted. Stating they have another source isn't good enough.

The trust is lost.

Butler1000 said:

The "anonymous" source confirmation WAS THE LAWYER. That's the problem.

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Cohen's lawyer, yes.
He's proving as reliable as Guiliani.

CNN reported what he said, got confirmation from a second source and published.
Then Cohne's idiot lawyer, Lanny tried to retract it after he realized it killed his client's case.

Blame Lanny, not CNN.

Pardon the interruption but in the real world, red herrings and faux outrage aside, when the Democrats take the House in November they will wrest control of the current Republican led sham House Committees and actually undertake their constitutionally mandated role of oversight with powers to set the hearings agenda, to compel relevant witnesses to appear and to issue subpoenas all of which have been sorely lacking.

They will have the power to hold Trump to account in public, splay him out for all to see and judge.

It ain't going to be pretty, but it is what is necessary, just and right.

Who's kidding who here?

Even his most ardent defenders and obfuscating diehard supporters KNOW he is a conman and a fraud, he always has been. They also KNOW just by sheer volume of documented actions, statements and frantic tweets thus far and nefarious activities uncovered thus far, that he at the minimum has engaged and is continuing to engage in a campaign of conspiracy to coverup criminal activities in the past and in the present and has and is still attempting to obstruct justice with corrupt attempt.

My fine feathered Trumpbots, who is kidding who here, you are not DUMB, DEAF and BLIND.

Anbarandy said:

Pardon the interruption but in the real world, red herrings and faux outrage aside, when the Democrats take the House in November they will wrest control of the current Republican led sham House Committees and actually undertake their constitutionally mandated role of oversight with powers to set the hearings agenda, to compel relevant witnesses to appear and to issue subpoenas all of which have been sorely lacking.

They will have the power to hold Trump to account in public, splay him out for all to see and judge.

It ain't going to be pretty, but it is what is necessary, just and right.

Who's kidding who here?

Even his most ardent defenders and obfuscating diehard supporters KNOW he is a conman and a fraud, he always has been. They also KNOW just by sheer volume of documented actions, statements and frantic tweets thus far and nefarious activities uncovered thus far, that he at the minimum has engaged and is continuing to engage in a campaign of conspiracy to coverup criminal activities in the past and in the present and has and is still attempting to obstruct justice with corrupt attempt.

My fine feathered Trumpbots, who is kidding who here, you are not DUMB, DEAF and BLIND.

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If.....if you mean.

Butler1000 said:

And at this point because of the retraction by the lawyer they are screwed. Every other news source had retracted. Stating they have another source isn't good enough.

The trust is lost.

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OIC this is because your source is Fox News, Breitbart, all the right wing media as well as your cult leader Trump.

Have patience, because if they had not corroborated the story, CNN would have definitely retracted it. As usual the right wingers who are as nervous as hell are still trying to pick at straws!!

Kathleen said:

Mystery solved

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You mean mystery will be solved.

THE LIST OF CNN’S BUNGLED REPORTING IS A SIGHT TO BEHOLD

Despite CNN’s assertion this week that it “does not lie,” the network has an extensive history of bungled reporting — some of which has gone uncorrected.

President Donald Trump called out CNN for its questionable report on his son’s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with the Russians, insisting that “CNN is being torn apart from within based on their being caught in a major lie and refusing to admit the mistake.”

“Make no mistake, Mr. President, CNN does not lie,” the network responded. “We report the news. And we report when people in power tell lies. CNN stands by our reporting and our reporters.”

While CNN is standing by its July 27 report claiming Michael Cohen was prepared to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting in advance, a number of factors have called their reporting into question. (RELATED: CNN’s Quadruple Down On Dubious Trump Tower Story Leaves Out Key Details)

Unfortunately for CNN, the Trump Tower story isn’t their first fling with dubious or just flat-out wrong reporting.

The following list details 20 additional stories that CNN has bungled following the rise of Trump.

1. SCARAMUCCI SLIP

CNN retracted a story in June of 2016 claiming that former Trump adviser Anthony Scaramucci was under investigation by Congress for his alleged ties to Russia. (RELATED: CNN Retracts Story About Trump Adviser Being Under Investigation)

The story relied on one anonymous congressional source and CNN apologized to Scaramucci for the error. Three CNN reporters ended up resigning from the company over the botched report.

2. TRUMP JR. COLLUSION

CNN reported in December of 2017 that Donald Trump Jr. received special access to documents stolen by WikiLeaks on Sept. 4, 2016. However, Donald Trump Jr. actually was emailed about the documents on Sept. 14, 2016 — a day after they were already available to the general public. (RELATED: CNN Botches Major ‘Bombshell’ Alleging Contacts Between Don Jr. And WikiLeaks)

CNN updated the report but still has not explained how two sources managed to give them the wrong date on the email.

3. 17 INTEL AGENCIES LIE

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said during a congressional hearing in May that three intelligence agencies — the CIA, NSA and the FBI — concluded that Russia interfered with the 2016 election.

Nonetheless, CNN has repeatedly claimed that all 17 intelligence agencies came to the same conclusion about Russian meddling. CNN’s claim is pure nonsense, as the Department of Energy, Department of the Treasury, and Drug Enforcement Agency, among others, would have no authority to make any assertions about Russian meddling in elections.

4. COMEY TESTIMONY CRUMBLES

On June 6, 2017, CNN reported that former FBI director James Comey would contradict President Donald Trump’s claim that he was not under investigation.

When the time came for Comey to release his opening statement for his congressional testimony, he actually ended up confirming Trump’s account. (RELATED: Comey Confirms: Trump Wasn’t Under FBI Investigation)

“This article was published before Comey released his prepared opening statement. The article and headline have been corrected to reflect that Comey does not directly dispute that Trump was told multiple times he was not under investigation in his prepared testimony released after this story was published,” CNN corrected.

5. TRUMP’S FISH FOOD

When President Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last November, the pair took part in a koi fish feeding ceremony. A video posted by CNN appeared to show Trump dumping his entire box of food into the koi pond unprompted. (RELATED: Journalists Slam Trump For Copying Fish Food Dump)

An unedited video revealed that Trump was simply following the lead of Abe, who emptied his box of food first.

6. A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH

In May of 2017 when Republicans were authoring a new health care bill, CNN claimed that GOP changes to Obamacare could make rape and sexual assault pre-existing conditions.

PolitiFact rated that claim “mostly false,” explaining that “the bill does not change what is or is not a pre-existing condition; the health insurance companies write those definitions for themselves.”


7. OFFICER CUOMO

CNN anchor Chris Cuomo inexplicably said in October of 2016 that possessing WikiLeaks stolen documents is “illegal,” but insisted it’s “different for the media.”

“Also interesting is, remember, it’s illegal to possess these stolen documents. It’s different for the media. So everything you learn about this, you’re learning from us,” Cuomo said.

According to The Washington Post, it is not illegal to possess or distribute illegally obtained material so long as you were not involved in the original hack.


8. JUST TAP IT IN

CNN originally denounced Trump’s claim in March of 2017 that former President Barack Obama was wiretapping phones in Trump Tower as a “flat-out lie.”

Then, in September of 2017, CNN reported that the FBI had a wiretap on former campaign chairman Paul Manafort — who has a residence in Trump Tower.

While it is unclear if the FBI tapped Manafort’s phones in Trump Tower or picked up his conversations with the president, it’s plausible enough that CNN should not be dismissing Trump’s claims out of hand. (RELATED: CNN Reporter: Trump’s Wiretap Tweets Still Not Plausible)


9. ZELENY’S FOLLY

CNN reporter Jeff Zeleny tweeted on July 31, 2018, that President Trump had not taken questions from reporters in at least a week.

https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1024373185775632385

Just one day prior to Zeleny’s tweet, Trump answered questions during a joint news conference with the Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte.


10. REPUBLICANS DID (NOT) FUND THE DOSSIER

The salacious and unverified Steele dossier was paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, but that hasn’t stopped CNN from pinning the document on the GOP. (RELATED: Media Still Pinning Dossier On Republicans)

Former Obama official and current CNN reporter Jim Sciutto was just one network talking-head who claimed the dossier was “initially paid for by Republicans.”

While Republicans bought standard opposition research from Fusion GPS, they stopped paying the firm well before it ever contracted with Christopher Steele to compile the anti-Trump dossier.


11. IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL LIE

CNN claimed that only Democratic members of Congress gathered to pray before the 2017 Congressional Baseball Game — the first game after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed. (RELATED: CNN Incorrectly States Only Dems Prayed At Congressional Baseball Game)

Pictures of the prayer circle clearly show both Democrats and Republicans praying together, and CNN eventually deleted their tweet claiming otherwise.


12. CNN GETS HIT WITH A CRUZ MISSILE

After the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, CNN media reporter Brian Stelter accused Republican congressmen of being “scared” to come on the network to debate gun control. Anchor Chris Cuomo specifically called out Texas Senator Ted Cruz for not rising to the challenge.

As it turns out, Sen. Cruz had done a 15 minute interview with CNN earlier that day. He blasted the network for airing “NONE” of his interview and noted that he had previously done three town hall debates on CNN with Senator Bernie Sanders. (RELATED: Ted Cruz Did A 15 Minute Interview With CNN — They Aired None Of It, Then Attacked Him For Not Coming On Air)


13. SILLY STELTER!

CNN media reporter Brian Stelter accused the Republican National Committee of “misquoting” him in an ad attacking the credibility of Michael Wolff’s book “Fire and Fury.”

“Real factual errors … makes you wonder about the overall content,” Stelter was quoted as saying.

Stelter did utter those words during a CNN International television hit and quickly deleted his accusatory tweet.

“I stand corrected: I thought this RNC ad misquoted me, but the quote came from a @CNNI TV hit,” Stelter admitted.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/949777980871634944
I stand corrected: I thought this RNC ad misquoted me, but the quote came from a @CNNI TV hit. So I've deleted my previous tweet about this. Big picture point: Wolff's errors are sloppy, but many Trump experts say the book "rings true" overall. My advice: Read it — skeptically

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14. THESE BOOTS WERE MADE FOR CORRECTIN’

Nancy Sinatra made a quick joke about her late father’s song, “My Way,” being used at Trump’s Inauguration in January 2017. She tweeted in response to the news to “just remember the first line of the song” — which is, “And now, the end is near.”

CNN spun Sinatra’s tweet into an article claiming she was “not happy” about Trump using her father’s song at the Inauguration.

“That’s not true. I never said that. Why do you lie, CNN?” Sinatra asserted. “What a rotten spin to put on a harmless joke.”


15. SCHOOL SHOOTING SLIP-UP

After a May shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas, CNN reporters immediately began claiming that there were 22 school shootings on the year. (RELATED: CNN Re-Ups False 22 School Shootings Stat)

However, CNN wildly exaggerates the number of school shootings by using methodology that includes accidental firearm discharges on school property, domestic disputes, and other non-active shooter events.

For example, one listed shooting at Savannah State University in Georgia involved just two people, neither of whom were students.


16. WHERE’S MELANIA?

Multiple CNN reporters ridiculously speculated about the whereabouts of Melania Trump after a scheduled kidney surgery and then denied responsibility for any conspiracy theories about the first lady. (RELATED: CNN Reporters Shirk Responsibility For Melania Conspiracies)

Media reporter Brian Stelter led his “Reliable Sources” newsletter on June 3rd with the headline “Melania M.I.A,” and insisted the first lady’s whereabouts were a “mystery” because she had not been seen in public since May 10.

While Stelter blamed random internet commenters for specific conspiracy theories about plastic surgery or a move back to NYC, CNN repeated such theories in an article and even asked Melania’s spokesperson to comment on them.


17. FAKE NEWS ABOUT FAKE NEWS

CNN cited a study from the Oxford Internet Institute to claim that fake news targeted swing states during the 2016 presidential election.

However, as The Daily Caller first reported, the study says nothing of the sort. (RELATED: Mainstream Media Reporting About Twitter ‘Fake News’ Is 100% False)

The researchers in the study were talking about “junk news,” not “fake news” — and their definition of junk news includes mainstream conservative sites like The Washington Examiner and Breitbart News. A deep dive into the study thus reveals that Twitter users didn’t receive nearly as much “fake news” as CNN initially claimed to readers.


18. TRUMP (NOT) IGNORANT ABOUT JAPANESE CARS

CNN Money’s Daniel Shane accused President Trump of not knowing that Japan makes cars in the United States, writing, “Trump asks Japan to build cars in the U.S. It already does.”

During the president’s November visit to Japan, he told Japan Inc, “Try building your cars in the United States instead of shipping them over. Is that possible to ask?”

However, when reading his full remarks — which Shane left out — it is clear that the president was making a joke and knows that Japanese manufacturers make cars in the U.S. (RELATED: CNN Spreads Two Fake Narratives During Trump Visit To Japan)

Shane ended up issuing a correction on his article.


19. HANDS UP, FAKE NEWS

A CNN panel consisting of Margaret Hoover, Sally Kohn, Sunny Hostin and Mel Robbins displayed the “hands up, don’t shoot” gesture in 2014 while talking about marches against police violence.

The gesture seemed to be a reference to the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.

While initial reports speculated that Brown had his hands up when he was shot by Darren Wilson, the DOJ concluded in a report in 2015 that physical and forensic evidence showed Brown’s hands could not have been above his waist.


20. PEACE BE WITH YOU

CNN deceptively edited a video of Sherelle Smith and Kimberly Neal, the sisters of an unarmed black man who was shot by police. The network claimed the two sisters were “calling for peace” amidst riots in their neighborhood.

“Don’t bring that violence here,’ [Kimberly] Neal, his other sister, said while sobbing,” CNN’s report said.

However, in a longer video, Sherelle says, “Y’all burning down s—t we need in our community. Take that s—t to the suburbs. Burn that s—t down. We need our s—t. We need our weaves. I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

CNN removed the portion of their report about Sherelle and owned up to their error.

“An earlier version of this story mischaracterized what the victim’s sister was trying to convey. She was calling for peace in her community, urging the protesters to go elsewhere,” CNN told The Washington Examiner.






It's always so much fun watching idiots trying to defend CNN lmao it's a POS network!

b4u said:

THE LIST OF CNN’S BUNGLED REPORTING IS A SIGHT TO BEHOLD

Despite CNN’s assertion this week that it “does not lie,” the network has an extensive history of bungled reporting — some of which has gone uncorrected.

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From the Daily Caller?
You know how to pick your sources.

By the way, that's still 200x better then Trump's 4000 lies.