Trump, blames China for hacking Clinton emails

Promo · Aug 29, 2018

Trump, without evidence, blames China for hacking Clinton emails
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...-hacking-clinton-emails/ar-BBMAy4I?li=AAggFp5

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Twitter early on Wednesday China hacked the emails of 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton but did not offer any evidence or further information.

"Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China. Next move better be by the FBI & DOJ or, after all of their other missteps (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, FISA, Dirty Dossier etc.), their credibility will be forever gone!" he tweeted a little after midnight on Wednesday.

Trump said in an earlier tweet on Tuesday night: "China hacked Hillary Clinton’s private Email Server. Are they sure it wasn’t Russia (just kidding!)? What are the odds that the FBI and DOJ are right on top of this? Actually, a very big story. Much classified information!"

U.S. intelligence officials have said Russia orchestrated the hacking of Democratic officials to meddle with the 2016 presidential election.

A U.S. federal grand jury indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers in July on charges of hacking the computer networks of Clinton and the Democratic Party.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating Russia’s role in the 2016 election and whether the campaign of Republican candidate Trump colluded with Moscow. Russia denies meddling in the elections, while Trump has denied any collusion.

Trump said in April 2017 China may have hacked the emails of Democratic officials to meddle with the 2016 presidential election. He also did not provide any evidence backing his allegation at that time.

Promo · Aug 29, 2018

I don't even know what to say. Trump doesn't care what damage he does to his own LE, Intelligence or Cybersecurity people .... it's all about using a lie to deflect attention. Is this not the very definition of TREASON?

I hope Congress drags him into a session and grills him on his source of information and the facts.

Frankfooter · Aug 29, 2018

Trump is getting desperate.

Promo · Aug 29, 2018

Looks like Trump lied - surprise surprise

FBI rebuts Trump claim about China hacking Clinton's email

How much do you want to bet that Trump will begin attacking the FBI over the next few days.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...-hacking-clintons-email/ar-BBMCIKg?li=AAggNb9

WASHINGTON — Sixteen hours after President Trump tweeted about a right-wing media story alleging that China hacked Hillary Clinton's private email server, an FBI official is refuting the report in a comment to NBC News.

"The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," the official said.

It's the latest example of the widening breach between a president who traffics in unverified news accounts and the law enforcement agencies he frequently maligns.

The FBI official, speaking for the bureau, also pointed to a report issued in June by the Justice Department inspector general that examined the FBI's investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server.

In the report, the IG noted that while the FBI assessed that it was "possible" that hostile actors gained access to Clinton's private email server, the bureau "acknowledged that the FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."

According to the IG report, an FBI forensics agent assigned to the case told investigators that, although he did not believe there was "any way of determining ...100%" whether Clinton's servers had been compromised, he felt "fairly confident that there wasn't an intrusion."

When asked whether a sophisticated foreign adversary was likely to be able to cover its tracks, he stated, "They could. Yeah. But I, I felt as if we coordinated with the right units at headquarters ... for those specific adversaries ... And the information that was returned back to me was that there was no indication of a compromise."

The FBI statement came after a right-wing media organization, the Daily Caller, published a story alleging that "a Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton's private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails." The story cited two sources briefed on the matter.

more ............

toguy5252 · Aug 29, 2018

He is obsessed with Hillary.

Promo · Aug 29, 2018

toguy5252 said:
He is obsessed with Hillary.

There are a few Terbites with the same problem. Political distraction or sexual obsession?

Bud Plug · Aug 30, 2018

Doesn't this story boil down to that the Daily Caller claims to have sources which say the Chinese hacked the Clinton server, but he FBI says they found no evidence? Of course, I also remember Comey's testimony before Congress about this. He said that it was possible that the server could have been hacked, and also possible that the hackers could have removed any evidence of their hacking. The current FBI position just mirrors what Comey had concluded. Of course, that begs the question as to why DNC hackers didn't remove the evidence of their hacking.

So, the FBI is not claiming that the server could not have been hacked, just that they never found evidence of it, unless they are saying Comey didn't know what he was talking about (or lying).

Anbarandy · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
Doesn't this story boil down to that the Daily Caller claims to have sources which say the Chinese hacked the Clinton server, but he FBI says they found no evidence? Of course, I also remember Comey's testimony before Congress about this. He said that it was possible that the server could have been hacked, and also possible that the hackers could have removed any evidence of their hacking. The current FBI position just mirrors what Comey had concluded. Of course, that begs the question as to why DNC hackers didn't remove the evidence of their hacking.

So, the FBI is not claiming that the server could not have been hacked, just that they never found evidence of it, unless they are saying Comey didn't know what he was talking about (or lying).

Yes Bud, yes it does ..... boil down to your suppositions.

jcpro · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
Doesn't this story boil down to that the Daily Caller claims to have sources which say the Chinese hacked the Clinton server, but he FBI says they found no evidence? Of course, I also remember Comey's testimony before Congress about this. He said that it was possible that the server could have been hacked, and also possible that the hackers could have removed any evidence of their hacking. The current FBI position just mirrors what Comey had concluded. Of course, that begs the question as to why DNC hackers didn't remove the evidence of their hacking.

So, the FBI is not claiming that the server could not have been hacked, just that they never found evidence of it, unless they are saying Comey didn't know what he was talking about (or lying).

The official story, as we know it so far, is that the FBI was notified, but Strzok cannot recall any details. Which means that no action was taken.

Promo · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
Doesn't this story boil down to that the Daily Caller claims to have sources which say the Chinese hacked the Clinton server, but he FBI says they found no evidence? Of course, I also remember Comey's testimony before Congress about this. He said that it was possible that the server could have been hacked, and also possible that the hackers could have removed any evidence of their hacking. The current FBI position just mirrors what Comey had concluded. Of course, that begs the question as to why DNC hackers didn't remove the evidence of their hacking.

So, the FBI is not claiming that the server could not have been hacked, just that they never found evidence of it, unless they are saying Comey didn't know what he was talking about (or lying).

Doesn't boil down to that at all. The OP is about the misleading statement by the President of the United States ..... stating as fact that the Chinese hacked the Clinton Emails. He didn't say it was just another possibility or it was being investigated. He stated it as fact. When a POTUS speaks, people trust/hope/expect his statements are based on fact supported by the appropriate gov't agencies and advisors.

The POTUS ...... who has access to the best Intelligence agencies, best LE agencies and best Cyber Security people in the world and has access to the people who wrote every line of code in the servers/databases/applications and the routers and switches that operate the internet ........ chose instead to communicate a non-verified story from a not-disclosed far-right leaning media source who used an unnamed source. Trump should have indicated the Daily Caller was his only source and he should have indicated his LE and Intelligence teams do not support the Daily Caller claims.

But this is Trump and alt-facts and deception have become the norm. So why did Trump do it: In an effort to yet again discredit the Chinese, the United States LE and Intelligence community and the Mueller investigation. Oh and of-course take away pressure on himself and Russia. Treasonist act IMHO.

As for all your babble about Comey and the FBI, Comey is being truthful when he says anything is possible - a good investigator is open to all possibilities. Comey stated that best available LE and cyber investigators had found no proof, but it's still not impossible. It's also possible Bud Plug is a russian spy with the mandate to disrupt all intelligent debate here on terb with crazy twists of logic. Quite likely in-fact.

Anbarandy · Aug 30, 2018

Promo said:
As for all your babble about Comey and the FBI, Comey is being truthful when he says anything is possible - a good investigator is open to all possibilities. Comey stated that best available LE and cyber investigators had found no proof, but it's still not impossible. It's also possible Bud Plug is a russian spy with the mandate to disrupt all intelligent debate here on terb with crazy twists of logic. Quite likely in-fact.

The truth grasshopper is to be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGdhc9k07Ms

Dumb and dumber and dumbest.

Anbarandy · Aug 30, 2018

We are witnessing an unprecedented and historical ongoing conspiracy to coverup criminal acts committed in the past and in the present, in addition to an ongoing campaign of obstructing justice with corrupt intent and heaping daily doses of treasonous acts thrown in for good measure.

All happening live and in real time.

24 hours a day, all day, all the time, the all new "Trump Treason Channel"

Trump:

"We're straight, we do everything by the book!"

Promo · Aug 30, 2018

Anbarandy said:
We are witnessing an unprecedented and historical ongoing conspiracy to coverup criminal acts committed in the past and in the present, in addition to an ongoing campaign of obstructing justice with corrupt intent and heaping daily doses of treasonous acts thrown in for good measure.

All happening live and in real time.

24 hours a day, all day, all the time, the all new "Trump Treason Channel"

Trump:

"We're straight, we do everything by the book!"

Soon it will be "I'm not a crook" as he flashes the V sign and walks away.

Bud Plug · Aug 30, 2018

Promo said:
Doesn't boil down to that at all. The OP is about the misleading statement by the President of the United States ..... stating as fact that the Chinese hacked the Clinton Emails. He didn't say it was just another possibility or it was being investigated. He stated it as fact. When a POTUS speaks, people trust his statements are based on fact supported by the appropriate gov't agencies and advisors.

I took Trump's statements as raising the question as to whether the Daily Caller information would be properly investigated by the FBI. It certainly seems as though the FBI doesn't like changing the focus of their investigations, unless there is public pressure to do so. Trump is applying that pressure. If he weren't part of a current investigation, I'm sure he would just have given direct orders for them to do so (like any other President). But he is denied such an ordinary approach to exercising the authority of his office. I didn't take it that Trump was asserting that the DC story alone was incontrovertible truth. Trump's statement amounts to him saying that the DC story confirms his own reservations about FBI conclusions that the Clinton server resulted in no serious a breach of national security.

Promo said:
The POTUS who has access to the best Intelligence agencies in the world, the best LE agencies in the world, the best Cyber Security people in the world, access to the people who wrote every line of code in the servers/databases/applications and the routers and switches that operate the internet chose to communicate a non-verified story from a not-disclosed far-right leaning media source who used a unnamed source.

Those magnificent resources have been known, at times, to not to tell the truth, even to Presidents (especially resources who served under/were appointed by previous administrations, and are adverse to the current President). That's why these agencies are subject to oversight, and answer to the President.

Promo said:
So why did Trump do it? In an effort to discredit the Chinese, the United States LE and Intelligence community and the Mueller investigation. Oh and of-course take away pressure on himself and Russia. Treasonist act IMHO.

Not so humble, and hardly a legal opinion. Simply put, he's trying to put pressure on the FBI to question their own conclusions about who hacked the DNC by causing to them investigate, and possibly confirm that another adverse power was behind at least some of the Obama admin/DNC hacking.

Promo said:
As for all your babble about Comey and the FBI, Comey is being truthful when he says anything is possible - a good investigator is open to all possibilities. Comey stated that best available LE and cyber investigators had found no proof, but it's still not impossible. It's also possible Bud Plug is a russian spy with the mandate to disrupt all intelligent debate here on terb with crazy twists of logic. Quite likely in-fact.

You're in no position to judge crazy, especially if you think that reminding people, accurately, of Comey's testimony is "babble". Comey told congress that they could find no evidence of hacking, but, of course, they investigated a server that had been subjected to Bleachbit by the time they checked. Also, I think it's very interesting that Comey accepts that hackers are capable of covering their tracks, but apparently the DNC hackers didn't bother to do so? No one has ever explained that oddity.

Anbarandy · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
I took Trump's statements as raising the question as to whether the Daily Caller information would be properly investigated by the FBI. It certainly seems as though the FBI doesn't like changing the focus of their investigations, unless there is public pressure to do so. Trump is applying that pressure. If he weren't part of a current investigation, I'm sure he would just have given direct orders for them to do so (like any other President). But he is denied such an ordinary approach to exercising the authority of his office. I didn't take it that Trump was asserting that the DC story alone was incontrovertible truth. Trump's statement amounts to him saying that the DC story confirms his own reservations about FBI conclusions that the Clinton server resulted in no serious a breach of national security.

Those magnificent resources have been known, at times, to not to tell the truth, even to Presidents (especially resources who served under/were appointed by previous administrations, and are adverse to the current President). That's why these agencies are subject to oversight, and answer to the President.

Not so humble, and hardly a legal opinion. Simply put, he's trying to put pressure on the FBI to question their own conclusions about who hacked the DNC by causing to them investigate, and possibly confirm that another adverse power was behind at least some of the Obama admin/DNC hacking.

You're in no position to judge crazy, especially if you think that reminding people, accurately, of Comey's testimony is "babble". Comey told congress that they could find no evidence of hacking, but, of course, they investigated a server that had been subjected to Bleachbit by the time they checked. Also, I think it's very interesting that Comey accepts that hackers are capable of covering their tracks, but apparently the DNC hackers didn't bother to do so? No one has ever explained that oddity.

The treasonous little boy-criminal who cried 'WOLF' one time too many is basically what you are trying to obfuscate for here, there and everywhere.

Still trying to conclude what is more torturous to endure, your posts or Trump's 24 hour a day, all day, all the time lying.

toguy5252 · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
Doesn't this story boil down to that the Daily Caller claims to have sources which say the Chinese hacked the Clinton server, but he FBI says they found no evidence? Of course, I also remember Comey's testimony before Congress about this. He said that it was possible that the server could have been hacked, and also possible that the hackers could have removed any evidence of their hacking. The current FBI position just mirrors what Comey had concluded. Of course, that begs the question as to why DNC hackers didn't remove the evidence of their hacking.

So, the FBI is not claiming that the server could not have been hacked, just that they never found evidence of it, unless they are saying Comey didn't know what he was talking about (or lying).

Didn't your fearless leader want people to ignore stories based upon anonymous sources?

toguy5252 · Aug 30, 2018

jcpro said:
The official story, as we know it so far, is that the FBI was notified, but Strzok cannot recall any details. Which means that no action was taken.

That is not what he said. he siad he passed it on to the appropriate people and he doesn't know what, if any, actions they took. Very different.

jcpro · Aug 30, 2018

toguy5252 said:
That is not what he said. he siad he passed it on to the appropriate people and he doesn't know what, if any, actions they took. Very different.

He also said that he didn't recall the details of the meeting.

Promo · Aug 30, 2018

Bud Plug said:
I took Trump's statements as raising the question as to whether the Daily Caller information would be properly investigated by the FBI.

Let's just stick with the facts BP: Trump didn't mention the Daily Caller in his statement, nor did Trump provide any proof or supporting information. Regardless, did you look at the Daily Caller article - it provided no evidence and didn't name the source. What was there for the FBI to follow-up on?
Why do I even ask you that?. Of course you didn't do your research, you never do, you just BS and twist.

Bud Plug said:
It certainly seems as though the FBI doesn't like changing the focus of their investigations, unless there is public pressure to do so.

How do YOU know what the FBI likes doing or not? How do YOU know what the FBI investigated or not? You KNOW NOTHING about the details of this investigation.

Bud Plug said:
Trump is applying that pressure.

Let me get this straight, you are saying Trump is applying pressure to the FBI to investigate an anonymous source quoted in a not-disclosed media source for an issue that occured 2 years ago that two seperate LE agency investigations said was a non-issue? If he blames Switzerland for the hacks next week, should the FBI jump all over that claim too? Trump's attempt to waste LE's limited resources is disgraceful.

Bud Plug said:
If he weren't part of a current investigation, I'm sure he would just have given direct orders for them to do so (like any other President). But he is denied such an ordinary approach to exercising the authority of his office.

Of course he's denied. He's being investigated for related collusion and obstruction. Presidents do not "ordinarily" get involved in LE investigations.

Bud Plug said:
I didn't take it that Trump was asserting that the DC story alone was incontrovertible truth. Trump's statement amounts to him saying that the DC story confirms his own reservations about FBI conclusions that the Clinton server resulted in no serious a breach of national security.

Of course you wouldn't, you are highly biased. Trump never mentioned the DC - can you not yet understand that?? Trump stated "Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China". He didn't say "may have been hacked" or "there's potential new evidence China was involved". He stated it as FACT and immediately took at shot at the FBI and DOJ.

Bud Plug said:
Not so humble, and hardly a legal opinion. Simply put, he's trying to put pressure on the FBI to question their own conclusions about who hacked the DNC by causing to them investigate, and possibly confirm that another adverse power was behind at least some of the Obama admin/DNC hacking.

Nope. He's trying to distract and discredit. If he was serious, he would have provided evidence or at least indicated where he got his information from (a low-credibility far-right media source well know for manufacturing stories).

Bud Plug said:
You're in no position to judge crazy, especially if you think that reminding people, accurately, of Comey's testimony is "babble". Comey told congress that they could find no evidence of hacking, but, of course, they investigated a server that had been subjected to Bleachbit by the time they checked. Also, I think it's very interesting that Comey accepts that hackers are capable of covering their tracks, but apparently the DNC hackers didn't bother to do so? No one has ever explained that oddity.

Sure I am, I laugh at you posts several times a week. You are just doing your usual twisting and bullshitting and you will attempt to do it for another 25 posts if you can.

Anbarandy · Aug 30, 2018

^^^^^

Bravo 'Promo'!

Standing ovation!!

:rockon:

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